Friggen idiots.

[oldtimer]

On Sept 11 (yesterday) 3 people locked themselves in an aircraft lav on an American Airlines flight from LAX to JFK.
I have no other details, except authorities say it is not terror related.
What were these dumb asses thinking? Especially on a day when security was hightened.
This is one of the reasons we have to put up with so much security.
If I were the captain and had my way, I would have declared and landed at the first airport and let the Army or Swat team extricate them, hopefully not feet first. But then again, I would have only been a passenger.

[Inverted2]

Mile-high threesome?

[iflyforpie]

Maybe they were having a ménage à trois?

Seriously, people overreacting to such nonsense is why our freedoms are being taken away. Land at the nearest airport? Seriously? Just have the cops meet them at the gate and let them get charged with mischief or the federal offence of failing to follow instructions from air crew.

Tightened security on the tenth anniversary of 9/11? It wasn't tight before? The reason why 9/11 happened when it did was because it was a Tuesday when load factors are the lowest.

[Changes in Latitudes]

From what I understood it wasn't 3 people at once, but 3 people over long periods of time with... ummmm, how should I put this...a bad case of mud butt. I'll start the clock the next-time you have indian food see what your in and out times are.

You wanna tell the spastic colon people to hold it just because its September 11th? They're an explosive bunch to deal with.

[Changes in Latitudes]

Well it appears that my initial information was incorrect, so I will correct myself. I will remind you though, that mud butt affects us all.

Anyway, it was just some mile high shananigans.

Joining the mile-high club on 9/11 is a terrible idea
The Beatles were right to say all you need is love, but sometimes you also need a bit of restraint. Like asking oneself: "Is it a good idea to try and join the mile-high club on Sept. 11?" No, no it's not.

A Frontier flight from San Diego to Detroit was escorted by two F-16 fighter jets and surrounded by police when it landed Sunday after crew reported suspicious bathroom occupation by a man and woman. The plane was boarded by SWAT officers with guns drawn, who handcuffed two men and a woman and led them from the plane.

The trio were questioned and released without charges filed, because the pair were "making out," a demure and possibly giggly federal source told ABC News. Given that another flight was disturbed Sunday by drunk bathroom-goers, the skies are getting awfully friendly.

Note to airline nooky-seekers: Next time, choose a different day to come together.

[DaveC]

Security was definitely increased (maybe at Windsor due to the airshow, or 9/11 in general). I flew in and was required to present my pilots license on arrival. Pretty stupid of them to do such shenanigans on 9/11.

[vortac]

Chill out!

Would your actions of landing ASAP and calling in a swat team be considered an complete emotionally driven over reaction? Of course. I understand your complete shock of their utter stupidity. I too shake my head. Just keep in mind being so openly vengeful and ignoring the rest of your passengers says very little about you.

I hope I'm never a passenger on your "ignorant nazi" airplanes.

[coreydotcom]

How did a man and a woman in a bathroom lead to two F-16 escorting them... I am missing a link.

I imagine being the captain on that flight and having an FA call saying "yeah, captain we have a man and a woman in a bathroom engaged in suspicious activity." I think my response would've been: "okay, let 'em finish. If you can't wait that long then knock on the door until they come out". Or better yet, make a PA: "we have an unscrupulous couple in the aft lavatory and I would appreciate all passengers' collaboration in clapping when they come out"... this last one may have gotten me in trouble, but it would have been funny, no?

I don't get where the F-16's came in?

I am unfortunately (or fortunately in this case) not (yet... or maybe never after reading this) a member of the mile-hile club. Am I supposed to assume that if I attempt such a feat with my consenting wife I run the risk of them scrambling some jets to escort us to our destination? Would be a good mile-high story. I guess I could just bang in Denver, but that would be less exciting.

[Beefitarian]

I think part of the suspicion was aroused by the third person.

[Siddley Hawker]

First off, I think they deserve jobs at le Cirque de Soleil. Three people who can perform the gymnastics required to @#$^ in an aircraft biffy should be a cinch to make it big in Vegas.

[jeff_w_yeg]

First off, I think they deserve jobs at le Cirque de Soleil. Three people who can perform the gymnastics required to @#$^ in an aircraft biffy should be a cinch to make it big in Vegas.

I agree. I mean, I'll admit I'm a "bigger guy" (5'10" 255lbs) and I don't think I could join the Mile High club BY MYSELF in an aircraft lav. Yikes...ha ha...

[hawker driver]

What a romantic idea.

Doing it in a small urine stained restroom.
Thats one to tell the grandchildren.

[Sulako]

Actually, as it turns out, the three people had never met each other, and certainly weren't having sex.

They were quietly released without charges, as none of the three had done anything wrong.


http://shebshi.wordpress.com/2011/09/12 ... n-detroit/

Read the story by one of the people arrested, a half-Arab, half-Jewish housewife from Ohio. She had the misfortune of being brown while flying, and sitting next to two Indian guys (who had also never met) with weak bladders.

Seriously, read her story and compare it to the media reports.

If you want the condensed version, check this link out, it also has a pic of the housewife:

http://jalopnik.com/5839584/dont-be-a-h ... ane-on-911

[Jack Klumpus]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

[grimey]

From what I understood it wasn't 3 people at once, but 3 people over long periods of time with... ummmm, how should I put this...a bad case of mud butt. I'll start the clock the next-time you have indian food see what your in and out times are.

You wanna tell the spastic colon people to hold it just because its September 11th? They're an explosive bunch to deal with.

There were two incidents. One involving frequent runs to the lav that was resolved when the airmarshals spoke to them (so a non-issue), and another where two people in the same row had to use the lav at the same time.

"It should be noted that at no time were there ever two people in the bathroom at the same time, and at no time were the three individuals uncooperative with the flight crew," Detroit FBI Special Agent Sandra R. Berchtold said in a news release.

In reality, Berchtold said, the three passengers -- two men and woman -- were strangers to one another, but happened to be sitting in the same row.

"One of the males, who was not feeling well, got up to use the restroom during the flight," she said. "The other male got up at approximately the same time to use the restroom. The female remained seated in her row."

So it wasn't simply fear that there could be mile-high shenanigans going on, it's that they thought there may have been mile high GAY shenanigans going on. Far worse.

In another incident Sunday, a pair of fighter jets were scrambled to escort an American Airlines jet into New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport after the pilot became spooked by passengers' frequent trips to and from the restroom, ABC News reported.

The precaution turned out to be unnecessary as federal air marshals aboard American Flight 34 from Los Angeles to JFK were able to resolve the situation when the passengers complied with their instructions, police officials told ABC News.

The pilot then radioed that the situation was under control and the plane landed safely. Three male passengers were questioned upon arrival, but no charges were filed against them, authorities said.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/29 ... etail.html

Anyway, if the worst that happened is a few F-16s got scrambled and 6 people got questioned for a bit after arrival, who cares?

[Bede]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Jewish is an ethnicity. Many Jewish people belong to the religion called Judaism.

[grimey]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

Please explain why Tay-Sachs disease would discriminate based on religion.

[Siddley Hawker]

Or how about if she was half American and half Puerto Rican. Would that make her Sorta Rican?

[Jack Klumpus]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Jewish is an ethnicity. Many Jewish people belong to the religion called Judaism.

Ah yes, the age old debate. You say many jews belong to the religion called judaism, I say the majority are. I've never heard of a muslim jew, or a Christian jew, or a bahai'i jew.

An Arab may be of the Jewish faith, Chrsitian faith, or Muslim faith, or any other faith.

jewish identity has their religion as a foundation.

[Jack Klumpus]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

Please explain why Tay-Sachs disease would discriminate based on religion.

I would not explain such a thing, since I believe its an equal opportunity disease.

Some might think some people are more prone to it (i.e. most of the southerners in the u.s. states ).

[grimey]

What's half arab half jewish?

Arab is a panethnicity, where as jewish is a religion.

It's like saying, meet Bob, he's half Canadian half Roman Catholic.

I'd like to know how anyone (other than the women) would know she's half jewish, or full or 1/4 for that matter.

/rant.

Sorry, but you are incorrect. Jewish is an ethnicity. Many Jewish people belong to the religion called Judaism.

Ah yes, the age old debate. You say many jews belong to the religion called judaism, I say the majority are. I've never heard of a muslim jew, or a Christian jew, or a bahai'i jew.

An Arab may be of the Jewish faith, Chrsitian faith, or Muslim faith, or any other faith.

jewish identity has their religion as a foundation.

Strawman, and either-or fallacy in reasoning. You're pretending that we're claiming that something is either ethnic or religious, that it cannot be both. Which is wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_atheism

Jewish atheism is practiced by atheists who are ethnically, and to some extent culturally, Jewish. Because Jewishness encompasses ethnic as well as religious components, the term "Jewish atheism" does not necessarily imply any kind of contradiction. Based on Jewish law's emphasis on matrilineal descent, Orthodox Jewish authorities would accept as fully Jewish an atheist born to a Jewish mother.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_christians

Contemporary movements: Jewish Christians, Messianic Jews

Jewish Christians are ethnic Jews who have converted to Christianity. They are mostly members of Protestant and Catholic congregations, usually are not strict about observing the Laws of Moses, including kashrut (Jewish dietary laws) or the Sabbath, and are generally assimilated culturally into the Christian mainstream, although they retain a strong sense of their Jewish identity.

The Hebrew Christian movement of the 19th Century was a largely Anglican led, and largely integrated initiative, with figures such as Michael Solomon Alexander, Bishop of Jerusalem 1842-1845. Though figures such as Joseph Frey were more assertive of Jewish identity and independent.

Messianic Jews are people who adhere to Messianic Judaism, a syncretic religion that combines evangelical Christian belief with some Jewish ritual. Adherents, many of whom are ethnically Jewish, worship in congregations that include Hebrew prayers and use of a Torah scroll. They circumcise their sons and often observe Kosher dietary laws and Saturday as the Sabbath. Many do not use the label "Christian" to describe themselves, but they do recognize the Christian New Testament as holy scripture.

The two groups are not completely distinct; some adherents, for example, favor Messianic congregations but freely live in both worlds, such as theologian Arnold Fruchtenbaum, the founder of Ariel Ministries.[51]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/science/10jews.html

Jewish communities in Europe and the Middle East share many genes inherited from the ancestral Jewish population that lived in the Middle East some 3,000 years ago, even though each community also carries genes from other sources — usually the country in which it lives.

You're wrong. I'm shocked.

[SuperchargedRS]

Could be worse

[JDW]

hahhah Ive been reading these boards for a loong time, and though most things do degenerate into ridiculous arguments, this one really takes the cake!!

[rubberboot]

maybe one of them was going for a "blumpkin".....

look it up in the urban dictionary, its kinda disturbing.

[oldyellr]

I've never heard of a muslim jew, or a Christian jew

Michael Coren, a Jew, converted to Roman Catholicism, so that would make him a Christian Jew. No doubt one could find Christian converts from those other religions.