Air Canada Interviews

[Sage]

Those recent numbers are correct and it's a great thing for Jazz guys and it was great timing for me. One thing AC did this year just previous to all the hiring was abolish a carry through agreement where Jazz guys could carry over 2 years of pay seniority, as well as travel passes. Put us on an equal playing ground at least.

Now I have to decide whether or not to say hi to the Jazz guys.

I was one of the pilots that was interviewed from LOU18 and I can tell you that it is not as rosy as you may have been told. Alot of us were frozen. Here's a job that you have been hired for but cannot take because of LOU18. That meant listening to the AO pilots bitch and complain until the freeze was over. That meant up to 2 years at Jazz and not being able to cross over. Passes - you did not carry over any YOS for passes. You start from square one. Guys who are junior to you at Jazz are now be senior to you for travel. Hopefully this will be changed soon as Jazz is no longer part of AC and their employees should not be bumping any AC employee off any AC flight. LOU18 wasn't abolish this year. It was gone the day Jazz became a separate company. One of the good parts of LOU18 - credit for vacation!

Oh, talk to any former Jazz guy at AC and you will find that it is the Jazz guys that do not say hi! They don't even look up. I've given up!

Come on over! Lots of hiring!

[mbav8r]

Sage, Thank you for clearing that up for us, here all this time I was thinking it was me being snubbed as soon as they got a look at my hat, but in fact it was me looking at the ground while walking around the airport.
Also thank you for perpetuating the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of AO guys glad you were able to fool the hiring committee.

Hopefully this will be changed soon as Jazz is no longer part of AC and their employees should not be bumping any AC employee off any AC flight

Curious as to what you mean, "no longer part of AC"? From a company stand point AC has no stake in Jazz, so you must mean we no longer do any CPA flying for AC, if that's the case, be careful what you wish for. Jazz will not disappear, a healthy balance sheet(Thank you) and lower cost with large aircraft on the AOC. If I were an AC guy, I'd be more worried if Jazz did not have a CPA with AC.

[Sage]

Sage, Thank you for clearing that up for us, here all this time I was thinking it was me being snubbed as soon as they got a look at my hat, but in fact it was me looking at the ground while walking around the airport.
Also thank you for perpetuating the problem, I'm sure there are plenty of AO guys glad you were able to fool the hiring committee.

Hopefully this will be changed soon as Jazz is no longer part of AC and their employees should not be bumping any AC employee off any AC flight

Curious as to what you mean, "no longer part of AC"? From a company stand point AC has no stake in Jazz, so you must mean we no longer do any CPA flying for AC, if that's the case, be careful what you wish for. Jazz will not disappear, a healthy balance sheet(Thank you) and lower cost with large aircraft on the AOC. If I were an AC guy, I'd be more worried if Jazz did not have a CPA with AC.

I don't think anybody has that good vision to be able to pick out the words Jazz at the end of Air Canada on your hat while walking in the terminal. That's been my experience and others who came to AC from Jazz. Even while at QK I found most AC guys will say hello. Your experience may be different. I don't care what company you work for. If you're a pilot, I say hello.

Im glad I was able to as well MB. I couldn't wait to stop flying with those AO guys. I enjoyed my time there but I couldn't wait to stop flying with those guys. Be thankful LOU18 doesn't exist anymore because the AO guys will try to screw you while you are waiting for your release. That's from personal experience.

Sensing a little defensiveness here. What I mean by "no longer part of AC" is that AC no longer owns any part of QK. So for pass travel you should not have the same priority as AC employees anymore. A QK employee shouldn't be able to bump any AC employee off any flight. I know what you may say next - that pass travel is in the CPA. That may be, but it doesn't say you will have the same priority as us forever. Yes, I DO know the CPA is until 2020 so I am fully aware that QK is in a CPA with AC.

And no we are not worried if Jazz losses the CPA. We have to stop shuffling our money there sometime!

[mbav8r]

Ok, you're right about the hat, it's most likely the big red strap on my bag that does it, either way it's not imagined.
It's also NOT all AC pilots, likewise, I'm sure there is a fair share of Jazz pilots doing the same thing. Thankfully, I don't get out to YYZ very often, I find the most bitter of them to be in that general area.

This has been debated ad nauseam, yes I get defensive about the passes, it pisses me off, the selfishness of statements like yours. The passes are in the CPA because, wait for it, wait for it! Jazz used to be owned by AIR CANADA! Therefore we were AC employees, so go ahead and say what you're going to say, we used to be. Then I'll ask, "does it bother you when you get bumped by an AVEOS employee or AREOPLAN employee"? They're no longer employed by AC directly. If you answer yes to the above question or still feel that Jazz employees should be a lower priority, which I'm sure you do, because it appears you drank a little too much of the red punch, I hope you get the LCC you deserve.
By the way, get with the times AC sold off the last of their stake in Jazz about 3 years ago.

[Sage]

By the way, get with the times AC sold off the last of their stake in Jazz about 3 years ago.

Yes, I know. Thanks for the "education". I was in the family when that happened. If the comment was for the funneling of money, I'm talking about the CPA not ownership.

Topics such as passes and the CPA are topics that Jazz will never get to decide. Nor employees such as us for that matter. As an addition (to throw even more fuel to the fire), apparently there was a letter from CR to reduce Jazz travel priority already. It was supposed to have come to effect last year but the company negotiators are using it as a bargaining chip with the pilots.

The LCC cannot come to fruition without the nod from the pilots. With that, has to come the same pay and working conditions as mainline. So, we will not get the LCC we deserve unless it is exactly what we want.

Sorry for the thread drift. We can continue on a new thread or PM if you like. This thread is about AC interviews so lets get back to topic. Starting to see former Jazz pilots on the new hire bios after a few months hiatus. One thing you guys might want to look at is why no RJ YYZ FO's getting hired. CP (doesn't stand for chief pilot) is very friendly with a higher up manager at AC. Maybe an unofficial freeze for the 757 happening?? From a Jazz friend who got the PFO...

[rudder]

Sorry for the thread drift. We can continue on a new thread or PM if you like. This thread is about AC interviews so lets get back to topic. Starting to see former Jazz pilots on the new hire bios after a few months hiatus. One thing you guys might want to look at is why no RJ YYZ FO's getting hired. CP is very friendly with a higher up manager at AC. Maybe an unofficial freeze for the 757 happening?? From a Jazz friend who got the PFO...

No big deal. Jazz pilots with 757/CRJ time can go to WJ/AT/Emirates/Qatar/Cathay/etc. AC isn't necessarily first choice anymore, simply one option among many.

[Mclovin]

By the way, get with the times AC sold off the last of their stake in Jazz about 3 years ago.

Yes, I know. Thanks for the "education". I was in the family when that happened. If the comment was for the funneling of money, I'm talking about the CPA not ownership.

Topics such as passes and the CPA are topics that Jazz will never get to decide. Nor employees such as us for that matter. As an addition (to throw even more fuel to the fire), apparently there was a letter from CR to reduce Jazz travel priority already. It was supposed to have come to effect last year but the company negotiators are using it as a bargaining chip with the pilots.

The LCC cannot come to fruition without the nod from the pilots. With that, has to come the same pay and working conditions as mainline. So, we will not get the LCC we deserve unless it is exactly what we want.

Sorry for the thread drift. We can continue on a new thread or PM if you like. This thread is about AC interviews so lets get back to topic. Starting to see former Jazz pilots on the new hire bios after a few months hiatus. One thing you guys might want to look at is why no RJ YYZ FO's getting hired. CP is very friendly with a higher up manager at AC. Maybe an unofficial freeze for the 757 happening?? From a Jazz friend who got the PFO...

Not true about the YYZ RJ FOs. I know 2 guys personally who have been in the July and August class. There is also one more that I know of starting in October.

[whiteguy]

Sorry for the thread drift. We can continue on a new thread or PM if you like. This thread is about AC interviews so lets get back to topic. Starting to see former Jazz pilots on the new hire bios after a few months hiatus. One thing you guys might want to look at is why no RJ YYZ FO's getting hired. CP is very friendly with a higher up manager at AC. Maybe an unofficial freeze for the 757 happening?? From a Jazz friend who got the PFO...

No big deal. Jazz pilots with 757/CRJ time can go to WJ/AT/Emirates/Qatar/Cathay/etc. AC isn't necessarily first choice anymore, simply one option among many.

CRJ time won't get you to EK. Not heavy enough.

[Mclovin]

EK is taking RJ drivers, a few guys from Jazz have gone recently........now back to AC interviews...

[whiteguy]

EK is taking RJ drivers, a few guys from Jazz have gone recently........now back to AC interviews...

With just RJ time?

[Takeoff OK]

[So for pass travel you should not have the same priority as AC employees anymore. A QK employee shouldn't be able to bump any AC employee off any flight.

You should always have priority on your own metal, regardless of the ticket number.

What makes you feel entitled to a Dash seat above a a Dash driver?

[Inverted2]

"CRJ time won't get you to EK. Not heavy enough."

I personally know 4 Jazz guys who got hired at Emirates with CRJ 100/200/900 time.

[whiteguy]

"CRJ time won't get you to EK. Not heavy enough."

I personally know 4 Jazz guys who got hired at Emirates with CRJ 100/200/900 time.

Interesting. I also know a few guys that went there with CRJ time but they also had time on heavier jets, F28, 737, 767......

Was told the 100/200 were not the jet type they were looking for. Maybe it's changed!

[Sea2Sky]

What makes you feel entitled to a Dash seat above a a Dash driver?

... because you sold that seat to another company. What makes you feel entitled to have it back?

[Sage]

Not true about the YYZ RJ FOs. I know 2 guys personally who have been in the July and August class. There is also one more that I know of starting in October.

Must've missed that in the bios. Were they 757 guys too?

[Mclovin]

Not true about the YYZ RJ FOs. I know 2 guys personally who have been in the July and August class. There is also one more that I know of starting in October.

Must've missed that in the bios. Were they 757 guys too?

Nope not on the 757. They were all relatively junior.

[Xander]

So,

Any news for the September round anyone?

I interviewed on the 21, did the cog and personality tests on the 28th and I'm looking at my cellphone like a paranoiac already.

[Krashman]

The guys in the Oct class were notified at the end of september so I would assume the next time you should start checking you cell every five minutes would be the towards the end of Oct for the Nov class.

Good luck

[ywg9]

Hey guys just wondering if anybody is getting calls for interviews without the collage programs. Also does intigrated license count as being able to tic that box. Also what about the incident question does answere yes send your application to the recycls bin

[Capt_sky]

Hi there My heart is still beating about 2x as fast as it should do in a healthy body but... got an interview email

Was wondering if I could get some of you who went through the interview to PM with details that could help get ready for the big day.

Cheers and many thanks in advance

[merlin]

I also have an interview next week. Would anyone who has recently been successfull mind PM me as well with any tips or most recent info? Thanks.

[HuD 91gt]

Hey guys just wondering if anybody is getting calls for interviews without the collage programs. Also does intigrated license count as being able to tic that box. Also what about the incident question does answere yes send your application to the recycls bin

I ticked the box(incident), I got the job. It's a learning experience. Portray it that way.

Everyone I know who has gone through the process has had a degree/aviation diploma.

[Sea2Sky]

Merlin and Capt Sky: congrats! Don't cheap out now... do the interview prep from PCC. They'll have the most current info, and most importantly, how to prepare properly. You don't want to be sitting around next month wondering "what if"....

[PC12flyer]

+1 to the PCC prep course, it was excellent! I feel that without them I wouldn't have gotten the job.

[ywg9]

Thanks for the info hud91gt. Are the only ones getting calls for interviews guys with collage programs. are guys getting hired right now without collage programs. Thanks again everyone.