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Tremors of Unprofessionalism

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Tremors of unprofessionalism are being felt across the aviation industry. The 8.0 earthquake of a mass casualty aviation mishap caused by a lack of professionalism has yet to strike, but those of us who keep our ears to the ground understand that something extremely serious is going on beneath the surface in aviation. No one seems to be immune. From the flight decks of our major airlines, to regional carriers, to the rotary winged worlds of emergency services, firefighting, and military operations, failures of judgment and willful noncompliance continue to surface at an alarming rate. Most recently, we feel the tremors of unprofessional conduct coming from the Air Traffic Control world.

Over the past five years we have witnessed a steady erosion of public and political trust in our industry. Much of it is earned, and some may be simply greater media attention on a problem that has existed for decades. In either case, there is little doubt that if the challenge is not addressed, it is a matter of time before the “big one” hits. When it does, it will severely impact the entire industry, something we simply cannot afford as we struggle to regain the lost ground from the recent economic recession we have all bravely faced.

Let’s look at the short list of seismic tremors over the past few years. It began with Comair Flight 191, who mistakenly attempted to take off on the wrong runway in Lexington, Kentucky following multiple violations of the sterile cockpit rule. A series of fixed wing and rotary wing mishaps in the EMS industry followed, accompanied by highly publicized studies and additional events such as pilots with an airplane full of international passengers unintentionally landing on a taxiway, and airline Captain’s pulled drunk from their cockpits before takeoff. And then of course, there was Colgan Flight 3407, the biggest tremor to date, with its multiple failures of professionalism and 49 fatalities.

The military was not immune, two Navy helicopter aircrews dipping into Lake Tahoe for their Facebook page photos, and Air Force instructor pilots overflying a football stadium at less than 100 feet. U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff General Norton Schwartz echoed his concern following an embarrassing string of incidents in his organization related to nuclear weapons handling. In a speech in October 2008, General Schwartz, said “We collectively need to back a little bit toward something called compliance. We must, do the right thing and do the right thing right. That’s as simple as it gets.”

In November 2009, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt joined the drumbeat for renewed professionalism; “There is an extreme need to refocus on professionalism,” citing the “sad example” of the crew who “lost total situational awareness” and overflew their intended destination with an airliner full of passengers. “I can’t regulate professionalism,” he lamented. In May, 2010, NTSB Chairman Deborah Hersman took the unprecedented step of holding a National Forum on Professionalism in Aviation and Air Traffic Control Operations, an event I was honored to keynote. Administrator Babbitt, Chairman Hersman and General Schwartz all point to the key aspect of this challenge and any potential solution – it revolves around personal integrity, accepting responsibility for our actions, and a willingness to hold ourselves and our peers to professional standards. But these are not simple fixes because words like integrity, responsibility and standards are no longer standard issue in modern society.

One thing is certain. If we as aviators, maintainers, dispatchers and air traffic controllers, do not address this challenge from within, we can expect new restrictions and regulations to flow into the vacuum created by our inability to do so. British author G.K. Chesterton perhaps said it best. “When you break the big laws, you do not get liberty; you do not even get anarchy. You get the small laws.” As our industry climbs back from the recent recession, we cannot afford a self-induced avalanche of “small laws” brought on by our own acts. We need only look as far as the details in HR 5900, signed into law last year, to see the future if we choose not to act. ~
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In November 2009, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt joined the drumbeat for renewed professionalism; “There is an extreme need to refocus on professionalism,” citing the “sad example” of the crew who “lost total situational awareness” and overflew their intended destination with an airliner full of passengers. “I can’t regulate professionalism,” he lamented.
Interesting words given the gravity of his own personal issues.
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I think it's poignant that no one is immune to "unprofessionalism."


You would think that with several thousand hours a person upfront in an A320 or 767 is more professional than a blue collared freight hualer or bush rat, however that's isn't always the case.

I would say some local Avcanada private pilots are more professional than some of us with a few thousand hours of (lowercase) professional flying.
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Unprofessionalism? Whoever wrote this needs to give their head a shake. Whenever the Government stops treating aviation like a never ending cash cow with duty day regulations worse then third world countries then they will have my undivided attention.

The only tremor they should be afraid of is when we (all aviation personel) stand up with a unified voice and tell them to collectively piss off! (or take the bus)
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whipline wrote:Whenever the Government stops treating aviation like a never ending cash cow with duty day regulations worse then third world countries then they will have my undivided attention.
I guess you missed the major point of the OP's posted article:
atpl53 wrote: Administrator Babbitt, Chairman Hersman and General Schwartz all point to the key aspect of this challenge and any potential solution – it revolves around personal integrity, accepting responsibility for our actions, and a willingness to hold ourselves and our peers to professional standards. But these are not simple fixes because words like integrity, responsibility and standards are no longer standard issue in modern society.
So because the government has terrible duty rules, and a terrribly flawed SMS program, etc, we should all just fly like cowboys? I don't fly anything that anyone would consider particularily glamorous, but I fly each day professionally, and to a higher standard than even my company's COM or SOPs would dictate. If you think the rules aren't safe enough, then be safer yourself when you operate the a/c.

The Colgan crash was a terrible accident resulting from a very flawed system in the US, but the Comair crash, as mentioned in the article comes down to a lack of professionalism, and self integrity regarding the sterile cockpit and use of checklists. Things which the FAA, TC, and your operator can mandate all they want, but its YOUR choice to do it.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
In November 2009, FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt joined the drumbeat for renewed professionalism; “There is an extreme need to refocus on professionalism,” citing the “sad example” of the crew who “lost total situational awareness” and overflew their intended destination with an airliner full of passengers. “I can’t regulate professionalism,” he lamented.
Interesting words given the gravity of his own personal issues.
I agree, perhaps he is not the best individual to be quoting on professionalism right now.

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This isn't a professionalism problem (okay, it is, but it's not as bad as you think); this is an information and media problem.

The spread of mass media, the internet, and millions of 'armchair experts' has eroded our trust of just about every profession out there, simply by exposing what has been happening for years. Politicians who can't keep it in their pants (not too appropriate for evening TV in JFK's era), priests who like little boys, crooked cops, religious fundamentalists, military atrocities (XX civilians killed today, but XXXXXX civilians were killed in the Liberation of France), and government conspiracies.
It began with Comair Flight 191, who mistakenly attempted to take off on the wrong runway in Lexington, Kentucky following multiple violations of the sterile cockpit rule.
No it didn't. It began since the beginning of flying. Here is an incident (no, accident) from over 20 years ago because of the same thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_ ... light_1141

Pour through the NTSB and TSB pages and look at 'unprofessionalism' spanning back decades.

Then, like now, it isn't a pandemic. Then, as now, it is a problem. But I don't think that it is worse, it is just more of a public awareness of what is going on. No, we aren't gods behind the reinforced door. We are humans with the same weaknesses, and temptations as anybody else.

Tell me with a straight face you've never done anything unprofessional in your career. Skipping an item on a pax safety briefing is all you need to be unprofessional.

But we keep going back to the same crashes (like Colgan) because there are only a handful to reference in recent years. For the amount of flying we are doing now, there are damn few crashes.
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What a one-sided POS. Half of what people can "unprofessional" behaviour is rooted in being worked 14 hours a day, getting minimal rest when it's needed by the company, and having to deal with a government that cares more about the economy than the people who support/are supported by it.

Here's a thought: maybe we can start by not using terms like "bush rats" to describe hard-working people in our profession, Nark.
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Fly like a cowboy? Our industry is safer then it's ever been despite what the media/original post suggests. Yee Hawww.
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I'm confused, "unprofessionalism" is a new thing in the cockpit? You mean those guys who drove one 747 into another on Tenerife (sp) were the hight of professionalism? Or the guys who dove into the everglades because they were all looking at a light were professional? And dumbass pilots taking a swig of booze before going to work is a new thing? Or they were just the first to be caught?

Seriously, I agree with the statement but the alarmist nature is a bit rich, stuff has always happened in aviation, arguably MORE often in the past then these days. I think people take this industry MORE seriously these days, given we have MORE airplanes, MORE regulations (lots more) and a hell of a lot more training and paperwork.

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Scuba_Steve wrote:... And dumbass pilots taking a swig of booze before going to work is a new thing? ...
That's the only reason you can go to 100% O2 in fighter jets :lol:
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Sea2Sky wrote:
Here's a thought: maybe we can start by not using terms like "bush rats" to describe hard-working people in our profession,
Nark.
Being called a "bush-rat" is a compliment where I come from.
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Citing the Comair crew as unprofessional is beyond the pale. Were they looking at porn on the taxi out? I don't think so.

The pilots did fail that day, but look at the circumstances- minimal rest, and a myriad of other factors that increase the risk of such events occurring. What is truly surprising is that accidents such as this don't happen more often.

What really failed is Babbitt and the FAA who for years have been ignoring every bit of evidence on fatigue and not doing their job by failing to enact common sense regulations that protect the travelling public.

Babbitt is so willing to point the finger at pilots while failing to realize his agencies failings.
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This is the biggest, smelliest pile of horse dung I've read in a long time. Somebody has an agenda they're trying to ram.
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WOW! What a problem it is! Run! Take cover! The Unprofessional Pilot Uprising is just starting! We have an FAA Director driving around drunk. Imagine the pressure the poor sot is under!!! Save the Children! The Children! Remember the Children!
What a load of CRAP! :smt040 :smt040
Aviation is the same as it ever was. No better (Okay, sorry Cat) maybe a "little" safer? Accidents don't make pilots "unprofessional", unless they're really stupid accidents?
All this talk about SOP's, to reject, or not to reject, one guy blaming the next, the next blaming the last, the companies pushing pilots, pilots willing to be pushed, hissing, spitting, eating your young, the old guys vs. the young guys, anybody who isn't a Bears fan, this thread, bought to us as a fact, when indeed, it's just another person's opinion, like everything else on this forum, me rambling on like a clueless idiot, you for reading it in the first place and giving a rat's ass, one way or another........perhaps.....
Carpe Diem! Enjoy the rest of your evening. If you like pinna coladas, and getting caught in the rain......
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CID wrote: If you like pina coladas, and getting caught in the rain
Boy you said a mouth full with that rant Doc.

How many people know the line above....Don't Google it...ahhhhhh no fair you looked.
Used to listen to that on CFCH 600 AM baby...

As for the letter from Bombastic they should be careful who there accusing as unprofessional. Might just be the author of the next cheque they would want to cash.
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High and Behind wrote:
CID wrote: If you like pinna coladas, and getting caught in the rain
Boy you said a mouth full with that rant.

How many people know the line above....Don't Google it...ahhhhhh no fair you looked.

Used to listen to that on CFCH 600 AM baby...
Mattedfred and I saw J.B. at the Molson Amphitheatre this summer...what a truly amazing and bewildering experience
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Sorry CP you went with the top of the page on google didn't you?

Rupert Holmes my friend.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
High and Behind wrote:
CID wrote: If you like pinna coladas, and getting caught in the rain
Boy you said a mouth full with that rant.

How many people know the line above....Don't Google it...ahhhhhh no fair you looked.

Used to listen to that on CFCH 600 AM baby...
Mattedfred and I saw J.B. at the Molson Amphitheatre this summer...what a truly amazing and bewildering experience
There's this one particular harbour....
Haven't heard from mattedfred for a while. He's still right side up and sniffing the air?
...they make a date to go dining and dancing....
See JB every August in Chicago. Five years running......
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I'm in agreement with the objections to this far-fetched notion of professionalism. Following SOPs and having a perfect crease in your pants does not automatically qualify you as a professional. Do your job to the best of your abilities; stay within the capabilities of yourself and your aircraft. No SOP, training catch-phrase, safety program or regulation will ever replace that.

Also, JB is sacred ground. I do indeed like Pina Coladas.
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Doc wrote:There's this one particular harbour....
Haven't heard from mattedfred for a while. He's still right side up and sniffing the air?
...they make a date to go dining and dancing....
See JB every August in Chicago. Five years running......
Alive and well, had lunch with him on Monday. Ps. JB's airplane was in St. Paul MN at Wipline being rebuilt when I was there last summer. Awesome looking bird!
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