RCMP order plane flying anti-Harper message to land
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midwingcrisis
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Re: RCMP order plane flying anti-Harper message to land
Anbody watch Kenny vs Spenny (Who can piss off more people?) 
Can't remember if he (Kenny) got in trouble. "Claimed" it was about is "friend" Jesus (Hey-Zeus) and that he was made at him.
Can't remember if he (Kenny) got in trouble. "Claimed" it was about is "friend" Jesus (Hey-Zeus) and that he was made at him.
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Loved that kenny vs. spenny episode!
Poor Harper.. everyones giving him such a hard time these days.
Didnt know the RCMP had the power to order and airplane to land and then interogate the pilot!
Poor Harper.. everyones giving him such a hard time these days.
Didnt know the RCMP had the power to order and airplane to land and then interogate the pilot!
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Yeah this sort of thing is forbidden in China too. Should have known better.
Will there be a CADORS for this one?
How about a NOTAM. Planes towing anti-regime banners will be shot down.
Will there be a CADORS for this one?
How about a NOTAM. Planes towing anti-regime banners will be shot down.
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Where do banner towing companies draw the line?
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Hmmm,
Anybody know what charges were laid?
Was he violating the CARS or some restricted airspace?
Anybody know what charges were laid?
Was he violating the CARS or some restricted airspace?
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Jungle Jim
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How do we contribute to this cause??
Jim
Jim
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Sounds about right.... Incredible that it's come to this.Dash-Ate wrote:Yeah this sort of thing is forbidden in China too. Should have known better.
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If you read the article you'll see the reason they asked him to land - they thought he was a potential danger to Harper's life, although it seems a stretch.
Anyway it's your own fault for voting him in. Or actually, it's the liberal party's fault for not having anyone worth voting for.
Anyway it's your own fault for voting him in. Or actually, it's the liberal party's fault for not having anyone worth voting for.
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Had that been me flying, I would land the plane and when confronted by the cops , I would identify myself(show licence and give my address)I would tell them, " I am not giving a statement nor answering any questions and I want to talk to a lawyer immediately"...... no explaining, no commentary, nothing. Just shut up.
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time to call El Che
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Name, rank, serial number! Are we at war? Maybe...Old fella wrote:Had that been me flying, I would land the plane and when confronted by the cops , I would identify myself(show licence and give my address)I would tell them, " I am not giving a statement nor answering any questions and I want to talk to a lawyer immediately"...... no explaining, no commentary, nothing. Just shut up.
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Yes, look how well that turned out.pilotbzh wrote:time to call El Che
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pilotbzh wrote:time to call El Che
I guess you don't know too much about the guy...
Che, was a devout communist, even more so than Fidel.
He led a successful rebellion, yes.... but in the name of communism with Fidel Castro at his side.
Sure, lets get Zombie Che' he'd save us.
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Comunism is the exploitation of mens by mens, capitalism is exactly the oposite
Ernesto "Che" Guevara (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈtʃe ɣeˈβaɾa];[7] May 14,[1] 1928 – October 9, 1967), commonly known as el Che or simply Che, was an Argentine Marxist revolutionary, physician, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat, and military theorist. A major figure of the Cuban Revolution, his stylized visage has become a ubiquitous countercultural symbol of rebellion and global insignia within popular culture.[8]
Ernesto "Che" Guevara (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈtʃe ɣeˈβaɾa];[7] May 14,[1] 1928 – October 9, 1967), commonly known as el Che or simply Che, was an Argentine Marxist revolutionary, physician, author, guerrilla leader, diplomat, and military theorist. A major figure of the Cuban Revolution, his stylized visage has become a ubiquitous countercultural symbol of rebellion and global insignia within popular culture.[8]
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I fixed that for ya'pilotbzh wrote:Comunism is a farging bad idea.
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Does the word "detester" not carry the same weight in the French language as the word HATE? Sorry, but you're not supposed to use that word anymore. I think if they had used a lighter, disapproving-type word, the up-tighties might have let it fly.
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If the banner said "Nous deteste ca" they should also learn rudimentary French. 
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So the lack of outrage at intimidation and suppression of free speech means this month's "new normal" is no anti-Harper slogans permitted within the capital region. I wonder what October's "new normal" will be?
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If anybody needs a quick lesson on what communism is really about please read the following whether it's the book or the article.....
Why Eltite Will Always Try To Protect Their Wealth
This Labour Day, a giant political issue lurks in the wings of the global stage. Though, for some reason, it seems shy.
It was peeking from behind the curtain at last week's Republican convention, but, blushing, it never really came on stage to dance.
Britain's deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, addressed it with his suggestion of a special tax on the wealthy to plug the gap in the government's shrinking budget.
But the idea was quickly shooed back out of sight as even the normally left-leaning Guardian editorialized against the wealth tax proposal, calling it "the politics of envy."
The issue in question is what economists call income distribution. In the current climate, that means the growing split between the rich and the poor, and the dangers that entails.
It just so happens I have been reading a rare book that addresses this issue quite squarely.
Called The New Class, it describes members of a greedy elite that, while paying lip service to greater equality, became the owners of everything. Their share of wealth increased, they ate well while others starved, and they controlled the media and justice system to maintain their grip on power.
British Liberal leader, and deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg wanted a new wealth tax imposed. It may not happen. (Stefan Rousseau / Associated Press)
That grip, says the book, was unshakeable.
"Ah," AynRandBoy1980 will want to say in the comments section below, "another liberal diatribe against free market capitalism." But AynRandBoy1980 would be wrong in this case.
This is not, as you might think, a book bashing today's "one per cent," the group that the Occupy movement has fingered as the bogeymen of an increasingly unequal age. But perhaps it could be.
The New Class was written in an earlier time, as revealed in its subtitle: An Analysis of the Communist System.
The new class
The author, Milovan Djilas, was next in line to Yugoslav leader Josip Tito before writing this book. A member of Europe's most successful anti-Nazi underground during WWII, Djilas was a loyal communist and propagandist. He had meetings with Stalin.
But in the early 1950s, Djilas discovered something about the communist revolution he didn't like. Djilas noticed the formation of a "new class" with fleets of cars and country houses at their disposal.
What was especially interesting about them, he writes, is that they truly believed they deserved these advantages for their efforts on behalf of the working classes.
At the same time, Djilas noticed that the large majority outside this new class lived in virtual poverty. Despite the rhetoric about equality and the notion that the workers were supposed to be in charge, "the fruits of revolution do not fall to them, but to the bureaucracy."
Instead of pursuing the original, idealistic goal of the revolution, which had become politically dangerous, this new class focused single-mindedly on crushing dissent and maintaining its wealth and power.
Djilas also observed that with no motivation to share the wealth, the total prosperity of the country collapsed. Farm yields and number of livestock were worse than before the revolution.
For writing this book, Djilas was sentenced to six years in prison. The ruling class does not like it when people point fingers at them.
The politics of greed
Being right didn't help Djilas. In fact, it probably hurt. And his writing about it didn't do much good.
Ten years later, bushy-browed Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev became famous for his fleet of foreign cars, leading to the one-liner, "Comrade Brezhnev, what will you do when the revolution comes?"
As Djilas discovered, reversing inequality, even in the midst of a Communist revolution, was an almost impossible task. The new elite had replaced the old and they weren't inclined to let go.
Djilas also helps us understand that inequality cannot be blamed on capitalism. As the tsars and kings and satraps of history have shown us, inequality is by no means a modern invention. It comes and goes.
Republican vice-presidential candiate Paul Ryan and House majority leader Eric Cantor in post-convention mood. Talking about a more egalitarian America. (Steve Helber / Associated Press)
Last week, the world's richest woman, Australian heiress Gina Rinehart, added her own version of the "politics of envy," telling the jealous poor that all they had to do was drink less and work harder. Oh yes, and inherit millions from Daddy.
Ms. Rinehart reminds us that once gross inequality is established, it is really difficult to fix. As with the Communist Party bureaucrats, the rich become convinced they deserve every penny.
And like those bureaucrats, they stoutly maintain that their continued wealth is in everyone's interest.
I am certain Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan's urge to "give our children the America that was given to us" reflects a deep nostalgia for an era of greater equality.
It must be obvious to Republicans and Democrats — or Germans or Greeks or Canadians — that an economy where everyone has a substantial stake will be richer, healthier and more productive than one where all the economic activity is concentrated among a small elite.
The ultimate goal is to make the pie bigger. But the difficulty is in convincing some — whether teachers, millionaires or Communist bureaucrats — to take a smaller slice now to help make that happen.
The author of The New Class was convinced that the solution to fixing inequality between classes was not revolution, but democracy. And I believe democracy will do it eventually.
But on this Labour Day, we should observe that the other face of the politics of envy is the politics of greed.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2 ... -envy.html[/size]
Why Eltite Will Always Try To Protect Their Wealth
This Labour Day, a giant political issue lurks in the wings of the global stage. Though, for some reason, it seems shy.
It was peeking from behind the curtain at last week's Republican convention, but, blushing, it never really came on stage to dance.
Britain's deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg, addressed it with his suggestion of a special tax on the wealthy to plug the gap in the government's shrinking budget.
But the idea was quickly shooed back out of sight as even the normally left-leaning Guardian editorialized against the wealth tax proposal, calling it "the politics of envy."
The issue in question is what economists call income distribution. In the current climate, that means the growing split between the rich and the poor, and the dangers that entails.
It just so happens I have been reading a rare book that addresses this issue quite squarely.
Called The New Class, it describes members of a greedy elite that, while paying lip service to greater equality, became the owners of everything. Their share of wealth increased, they ate well while others starved, and they controlled the media and justice system to maintain their grip on power.
British Liberal leader, and deputy prime minister, Nick Clegg wanted a new wealth tax imposed. It may not happen. (Stefan Rousseau / Associated Press)
That grip, says the book, was unshakeable.
"Ah," AynRandBoy1980 will want to say in the comments section below, "another liberal diatribe against free market capitalism." But AynRandBoy1980 would be wrong in this case.
This is not, as you might think, a book bashing today's "one per cent," the group that the Occupy movement has fingered as the bogeymen of an increasingly unequal age. But perhaps it could be.
The New Class was written in an earlier time, as revealed in its subtitle: An Analysis of the Communist System.
The new class
The author, Milovan Djilas, was next in line to Yugoslav leader Josip Tito before writing this book. A member of Europe's most successful anti-Nazi underground during WWII, Djilas was a loyal communist and propagandist. He had meetings with Stalin.
But in the early 1950s, Djilas discovered something about the communist revolution he didn't like. Djilas noticed the formation of a "new class" with fleets of cars and country houses at their disposal.
What was especially interesting about them, he writes, is that they truly believed they deserved these advantages for their efforts on behalf of the working classes.
At the same time, Djilas noticed that the large majority outside this new class lived in virtual poverty. Despite the rhetoric about equality and the notion that the workers were supposed to be in charge, "the fruits of revolution do not fall to them, but to the bureaucracy."
Instead of pursuing the original, idealistic goal of the revolution, which had become politically dangerous, this new class focused single-mindedly on crushing dissent and maintaining its wealth and power.
Djilas also observed that with no motivation to share the wealth, the total prosperity of the country collapsed. Farm yields and number of livestock were worse than before the revolution.
For writing this book, Djilas was sentenced to six years in prison. The ruling class does not like it when people point fingers at them.
The politics of greed
Being right didn't help Djilas. In fact, it probably hurt. And his writing about it didn't do much good.
Ten years later, bushy-browed Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev became famous for his fleet of foreign cars, leading to the one-liner, "Comrade Brezhnev, what will you do when the revolution comes?"
As Djilas discovered, reversing inequality, even in the midst of a Communist revolution, was an almost impossible task. The new elite had replaced the old and they weren't inclined to let go.
Djilas also helps us understand that inequality cannot be blamed on capitalism. As the tsars and kings and satraps of history have shown us, inequality is by no means a modern invention. It comes and goes.
Republican vice-presidential candiate Paul Ryan and House majority leader Eric Cantor in post-convention mood. Talking about a more egalitarian America. (Steve Helber / Associated Press)
Last week, the world's richest woman, Australian heiress Gina Rinehart, added her own version of the "politics of envy," telling the jealous poor that all they had to do was drink less and work harder. Oh yes, and inherit millions from Daddy.
Ms. Rinehart reminds us that once gross inequality is established, it is really difficult to fix. As with the Communist Party bureaucrats, the rich become convinced they deserve every penny.
And like those bureaucrats, they stoutly maintain that their continued wealth is in everyone's interest.
I am certain Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan's urge to "give our children the America that was given to us" reflects a deep nostalgia for an era of greater equality.
It must be obvious to Republicans and Democrats — or Germans or Greeks or Canadians — that an economy where everyone has a substantial stake will be richer, healthier and more productive than one where all the economic activity is concentrated among a small elite.
The ultimate goal is to make the pie bigger. But the difficulty is in convincing some — whether teachers, millionaires or Communist bureaucrats — to take a smaller slice now to help make that happen.
The author of The New Class was convinced that the solution to fixing inequality between classes was not revolution, but democracy. And I believe democracy will do it eventually.
But on this Labour Day, we should observe that the other face of the politics of envy is the politics of greed.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/story/2 ... -envy.html[/size]
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Siddley Hawker wrote:If the banner said "Nous deteste ca" they should also learn rudimentary French.
you need better glasses, It's a web site
http://stephenharpernousdeteste.ca/SHMD/Laccueil.html
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Teacher,
A good post. Nothing really new in there for me, but a good reminder. The concentration of wealth and power (whether aquired through Communist or Capitalist or any other means) results in mostly the same outcome: Totalitarianism and the elimination of political/social/economic competition. Only the decentralization of wealth and power can bring about true democracy and freedom. And yet the rich just keep on getting richer. Bad for freedom, and bad for capitalism (who's going to buy new cars when they can't afford them anymore?).
A good post. Nothing really new in there for me, but a good reminder. The concentration of wealth and power (whether aquired through Communist or Capitalist or any other means) results in mostly the same outcome: Totalitarianism and the elimination of political/social/economic competition. Only the decentralization of wealth and power can bring about true democracy and freedom. And yet the rich just keep on getting richer. Bad for freedom, and bad for capitalism (who's going to buy new cars when they can't afford them anymore?).
Re: RCMP order plane flying anti-Harper message to land
Rowdy;
The RCMP, in fact any peace officer, may order an aircraft to land, by virtue of:
602.144 (1) No person shall give an interception signal or an instruction to land except a peace officer, an officer of a police authority or an officer of the Canadian Forces acting within the scope of their duties
Also, once the pilot lands, he-she are subject to CARS 103.02 with regards to production of documents.
The RCMP, in fact any peace officer, may order an aircraft to land, by virtue of:
602.144 (1) No person shall give an interception signal or an instruction to land except a peace officer, an officer of a police authority or an officer of the Canadian Forces acting within the scope of their duties
Also, once the pilot lands, he-she are subject to CARS 103.02 with regards to production of documents.
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It is funny how religious this has become - communism=bad, capitalism=democracy etc etc. Sigh, sad and boring.
Having lived under both systems, I am much less likely to preach one over another. Life is full of colour, it is not just black and white.
Having lived under both systems, I am much less likely to preach one over another. Life is full of colour, it is not just black and white.
