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[xsbank]

Even me Rowdy? I'm sad... actually, I might need a job around about May, maybe you could put a word in for me...?

Just kidding - I think that ethics should be a course required for your commercial license. Most other "professions" have a requirement for that sort of course, even lawyers Maybe that would help?

About that job...

[learcapt]

Oh Doc I wish you even had a clue...I can't imagine how you are involved in this industry but you either have no experience, or you are an old fart that does not have a clue about the current state of our industry.

Yes they are an evil necessity. Even with bonds at the very large company that I have been employed at for a decade, we still have people who do not satisfy their obligation. When that happens they are sued and we have never lost. We have some of the best working conditions in the industry but for one reason or another people have to leave. That's fine, no hard feelings. But then we are protected.

Nobody likes having these but they have been around for almost 20 years, if not more. Companies need to protect their finances..plain and simple.

[Cat Driver]

Nobody likes having these but they have been around for almost 20 years, if not more. Companies need to protect their finances..plain and simple.

For sure the aviation industry has changed over the last few decades and bonds have become an insurance policy that companies feel is needed to protect themselves from unethical pilots.

Xsbank has it right.....when any company hires someone that just screwed their last employer the industry can only go downward.

It is no problem for a company to find out exactly who they are hiring.

[trey kule]

I am going to put a plea out to the ethical companies out there..If you receive a resume from someone who just has or is getting a PPC, please take a moment and contact their present employer to confrim they hold the PPC as they have applied for a job with you.

That will go a long way to solving the problem of pilots immediately jumping ship after getting taining.

BTW, someone at NCA told me they actually ask the question on their job app if you are subject to a bond...Dont know if it is true or not, but a good question if it is.

[Doc]

Nobody likes having these but they have been around for almost 20 years, if not more. Companies need to protect their finances..plain and simple.

NEWS FLASH!!!! I HAVE A CLUE! Companies "need to protect their finances....." because they don't run a ship worth staying with, and pilots are dumb enough to go along with the status quo. Take the insulting tone, and stuff it up your butt!

[longjon]

Give it up Doc, you're beating a dead horse

[Beefitarian]

Yes but, doc spent valuable time and money training that horse then it up and dies. Horses like that give all the other horses a bad name. Much like bonds and date rape, beating it is an evil necessity.

[tbaylx]

Nobody likes having these but they have been around for almost 20 years, if not more. Companies need to protect their finances..plain and simple.

NEWS FLASH!!!! I HAVE A CLUE! Companies "need to protect their finances....." because they don't run a ship worth staying with, and pilots are dumb enough to go along with the status quo. Take the insulting tone, and stuff it up your butt!

Gonna have to disagree with ya there Doc. 5T has one of the best schedules in the business if you want to be at home, and the pay in the left seat of the Boeing is on par with any other airline in this country..yes WJ, AC, Transat included. It's hardly a "ship not worth staying at" and there are lots or career guys here. Yet people who want to chase aircraft, or more "glamorous destinations" or live somewhere other than YEG or YYC are going to move on..fair enough but if you do at least have the consideration to not take an upgrade or new type weeks before you leave.

So..decent operator with decent conditions and you still get a bond because people can't be bothered.

[Diadem]

Okay. If you'd like to discuss bonds, perhaps you could move to a thread such as this one: viewtopic.php?f=54&t=69285&hilit=bonds. I, for one, would actually like to get some information on North Cariboo Air, specifically their most recently posted advertisements, and as such I don't much care about the merits of Canadian North's apparent introduction of bonds. If the discussion doesn't move voluntarily, I'd like to suggest that one of the mods move it somewhere more appropriate.
Thank you.

[turbo-prop]

Cariboo is a very good company to work for, the reason there is a bond (which you sign, not pay for unless you leave) is because there are some people out there that just have to get to Westjet or AC. They don't care if they screw the company doing it. They just want to get there captain time and move on. There are a lot of guys at Cariboo that are staying because it is a good place to work and still get lots of time with there families and have descent equipment to fly.

[xsbank]

Diadem you silly boy - don't you think your question would get answered if anyone had any information to contribute? Okay, there's some, Turbo likes it there. Satisfied?

You might want to re-think your stress level lest you pop something and medical out. Life's too short. Besides, you asked your question ON AN INTERNET FORUM so what did you expect?

[Johnny#5]

What's the best headset to buy?

[Diadem]

Diadem you silly boy - don't you think your question would get answered if anyone had any information to contribute?

I know, I just loathe thread-creep. For some reason these discussions always devolve into the same pissing contest which can never be resolved, and is completely unrelated to the topic at hand. I don't care if there isn't another post made in this thread because no one has any info; I can't stand that people don't take their arguments somewhere more appropriate and leave this for even the possibility that someone has something useful to share.

[xsbank]

Its exactly like a "safety meeting." Somebody starts talking about flying inverted, that reminds the next guy about his girl-friend and that reminds another of a visit to a certain village then there is fishing and the latest greatest caliber and then we all end up talking about headsets. Has anyone here tried the Sennheiser Digital? Oh and there's multi-grade oil for Beavers and carrying boats forwards or backwards and then that sound you hear is the lids of computers slamming shut all over Canada.

Its what we do.

[Flybabe]

Oh, Diadem. Some of us have info, but don't want to blab it all over the interweb

[baldchiefpilot]

well flybabe what the best you can tell us?????? :O

[Flybabe]

baldchiefpilot -

If you review this entire thread, there is info already. I see you posted another thread regarding Cariboo, so I will reply here.

How many pilots is Cariboo hiring? As many as they need. I don't know a number and doubt there really IS one. Busy time is coming up and it's been very steady most of this year as it is. They are dealing with attrition and some fleet expansion.

[Rowdy]

Even me Rowdy? I'm sad... actually, I might need a job around about May, maybe you could put a word in for me...?

Just kidding - I think that ethics should be a course required for your commercial license. Most other "professions" have a requirement for that sort of course, even lawyers Maybe that would help?

About that job...

All I can do is put you in touch with the right people my friend! The rest is up to you

[Colonel Sanders]

I just loathe thread-creep

Do not fear the thread-creep. Embrace the
thread-creep. Fighting the thread-creep is
like fighting a tsunami.

To quote Mao Tse-Tung, the willow bends
with the strong wind.

[Lost Lake]

Oh great, now we've creeped (crept) over to famous people quotes!

[Colonel Sanders]

Actually, no. I made that one up.

But do not fear the thread-creep. Feel the
power of the thread-creep. Use the power
of the thread-creep.

[Kosiw]

NCA are running 7 dash 8's ? Wow, are they that busy ? Are they all doing northern alberta oil crew change work ? Are they all based in YYC or in YEG too ?

[whiteguy]

NCA are running 7 dash 8's ? Wow, are they that busy ? Are they all doing northern alberta oil crew change work ? Are they all based in YYC or in YEG too ?

And 1 BAE146, 6 B1900s, 7 or 8 KA 200s, 4 100s..... Yes, very busy. All northern Alberta and BC, some Saskatchewan. Majority is based in YYC, 1 Dash, 1900 and couple 100s in YEG, couple 100s in YXJ.

[Lurch]

..... Yes, very busy. All northern Alberta and BC, some Saskatchewan. Majority is based in YYC.

How much of the flying is from SunWest sub charters?

Lurch

[whiteguy]

..... Yes, very busy. All northern Alberta and BC, some Saskatchewan. Majority is based in YYC.

How much of the flying is from SunWest sub charters?

Lurch

Very little!