Well that didnt take long... 787 Glich

[azimuthaviation]

http://news.yahoo.com/glitch-boeing-dre ... 38216.html

[BingBong]

warranty???

[sanjet]

warranty???

Most likely if there was any damage. Pretty sure there are some Boeing engineers and a pilot on board to monitor for first few days of flying for this new model as kinks do come out when you're flying the line with a brand new model.

[KAG]

Every new plane has it's glitches. Our NG's have snags galore for the first few months.

[azimuthaviation]

http://news.yahoo.com/ana-operated-boei ... nance.html

Japanese airlines ground Boeing 787s after emergency landing

So whats the cause of this economic and technological fiasco? Misplaced priorities in the USA and the resulting degradation of the value of the American product? A lack of capability on their part? Or as some like to believe a consequence of outsourcing critical assemblies to third party companies in countries that were until recently third world?

[bombardierfixer]

That's what you get for being a early adopter...I always like to wait for the second generation. I like to think I'm a early majority guy, but I'm probably late.

JAL Is stuck in the "Chasm"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ecycle.png

[azimuthaviation]

The deHaviland Comet, DC-10, and Lockheed Electra never made it to a second run. Design flaws and bad publicity early on killed them off.

[200hr Wonder]

Though aircraft like 747 had early bugs that did get sorted out. Only time will tell.

[cgzro]

I can't think of any new aircraft that did not have problems.
Last year people were all over Airbus 380 because of those el cheapo Rolls Royce engines:)

[Brantford Beech Boy]

The deHaviland Comet, DC-10, and Lockheed Electra never made it to a second run. Design flaws and bad publicity early on killed them off.

ummm, MD-11.

and I suspect the 707 and DC-8 had more to do with Electra not being more popular.
The public doesn't like those spinny things on the engine......

BBB

[L382Medman]

so what old airplanes have snags and no one cares, killer pitot tubes people still fly errorbus

[Sidebar]

The public doesn't like those spinny things on the engine......

I once was waiting for my flight (DHC-8) to board. Several passengers were looking out the window at the plane and saying "We're not going on that, are we?"

[Old fella]

The public doesn't like those spinny things on the engine......

I once was waiting for my flight (DHC-8) to board. Several passengers were looking out the window at the plane and saying "We're not going on that, are we?"

I hear that commentary along with quiet solitude/puzzled looks as they look out and see a B1900 as their mode........... I witness one lady in YHZ who refused to board a B1900 when she realized it was that small - she hates those little planes, told the gate people to get her on something bigger, she didn't care the routing and the extra cost. Ya hear and see it all.

[bmc]

When Canadian took delivery of its first B767-300, immediately after the media fanfare at YVR, the plane took off supposedly for Abbottsford and training. In truth, it went back to the factory to address a "many" snags.

[teacher]

All airlines should immediately cancel all 787s purchases and hold an open and transparent competition for the next airliner. This is unproven technology and expensive compared to buying off he shelf already proven designs. Atleast it has 2 engines though!

In reality any new design whether military or civilian is going to have teething problems. Not surprisingly the military ones get the most negative attacks. Different paint scheme same problems. In a few years when the kinks are ironed out it will become a great success.

[frosti]

Not surprisingly the military ones get the most negative attacks.

That is because everyone is an expert after playing a few video games.

[Instructor_Mike]

Not surprisingly the military ones get the most negative attacks.

That is because everyone is an expert after playing a few video games.

Or military spending is exclusive tax payer money where airliners are private enterprise (with tax breaks). If I don't like the way an airline works, I don't fly on that airline. We are stuck with our government until possibly the next election or you leave the country.

[CFR]

The deHaviland Comet, DC-10, and Lockheed Electra never made it to a second run. Design flaws and bad publicity early on killed them off.

The Comet resumed service with BOAC in 1958 after the reason for the accidents was discovered and the aircraft modified. These were the first to fly the Atlantic route. The 707 and DC-8 came along shortly after and carried more passengers and were more efficent to operate which led to BOAC replaced their comets with 707's. The Comet made it to the 4C version and was in service with a number of smaller airlines, leaving regular service with Dan-Air in 1981. The last 2 aircraft built were used to develop the Nimrod prototype.

The RCAF flew flew a few comets until 1963.

[I WAS Birddog]

That is because everyone is an expert after playing a few video games.

Boeing is designed and built by engineers.

AirBus is designed by corporate suits that have never turned a wrench and put together by the factory workers at LEGO. #Junk

Everyone relax. It's an avant-garde technology airplane.

"Drive European built cars....fly North American built aircraft"

[cgzro]

. AirBus is designed by corporate suits that have never turned a wrench and put together by the factory workers at LEGO. #Junk

What is it about the Internet that reduces people's IQ by 50 points.

What a ridiculous statement....why bother ?

[Canadian Skyhawk]

Amen. Both Boeng and Airbus are excellent aircraft. There's just different design philosophies behind them - nothing wrong with that. The bugs will eventually get worked out of the 787 - like any new clean-sheet design.

[I WAS Birddog]

. AirBus is designed by corporate suits that have never turned a wrench and put together by the factory workers at LEGO. #Junk

What is it about the Internet that reduces people's IQ by 50 points.

What a ridiculous statement....why bother ?

Yes it is son...yes it is.

Now hold still while I remove the hook from your mouth.
This thread is still young.

iWbd

[dashx]

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Yahoo!!!

[azimuthaviation]

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Yahoo!!!

The first post was over a year ago (I had a hunch this aircraft would be problematic early on), then these incidents that caused Japanese airlines to ground the fleet, now apparentlty the FAA has grounded all 787's.

[I WAS Birddog]

..... these incidents that caused Japanese airlines to ground the fleet.

Nonsense. They are still pissed about WW2 bombs over Tokyo.

We never made that big of a fuss when their Toyotas went crazy with faulty gas pedals. Bunch of drama queens they are.



#TEAMBOEING!!!