Thunder does not accept 337 time?

[Dapilot]

I have to ask why 337 time would not count towards multi? There are 2 engines and you do need a multi-engine rating to fly it. The only difference is no VMC and adverse yaw. Most pilots don't have engine failures on a regular basis and the procedure is the same but you would have to be a bit more careful not to shutter the wrong engine. Under that token would time on a say cf-18 not count either as its center line.

[cdnpilot77]

I strongly suggest you re-read the ad.

[iflyforpie]

However, given how often they have that ad up, maybe it might be just as well if they didn't accept 337 time.

[Dapilot]

I read it right the first time. "Note that Cessna 337 time does count to your multi requirement!" So re read my post and in the first line "why 337 time would not counts towards multi". What about a counter rotation or a plane with a VMC lower then the stall?

[cdnpilot77]

I read it right the first time. "Note that Cessna 337 time does count to your multi requirement!" So re read my post and in the first line "why 337 time would not counts towards multi". What about a counter rotation or a plane with a VMC lower then the stall?

Ok, Im confused by your questioning then...It DOES count...as suggested by your title, there is no mention in the ad of it "NOT" counting

[North Shore]

^ i guess what he's asking is who wouldn't count 337 as multi, seeing as it has two engines and all..

[cdnpilot77]

Well I thought that as well, until I re-read his title

[Dapilot]

Sorry cdnpilot I did miss read the add. My last reply was a bit cocky when I had not re read it and was going off first read.

[cdnpilot77]

Sorry cdnpilot I did miss read the add. My last reply was a bit cocky when I had not re read it and was going off first read.

No problem!

[Chaxterium]

Funny. I read it the same way at first too. I was wondering why on Earth they wouldn't recognize 337 time. Took me a couple looks to see it.

[Changes in Latitudes]

Exactly, why would you bother stating the obvious?

"Note: We do hire human beings to fly airplanes."

[Tanker299]

I read it the wrong way at first as well. Had a few moments of head scratching and re reading.

[Flying Low]

Chances are that the statement is included in the ad because Bob gets that question from a lot of pilots.

[tdp19]

its been a long time since i have had to think about it but isn't a group 2 ifr, a centreline thrust twin (337)? Obviously transport see's a difference between the two, maybe it is the same reason why thunder looks at it the same way? I have never flown the 337 so maybe im not the best person to be saying anything but i see some pretty major differences between a traditional twin and a centreline. However i do find it interesting that some company's accept 337 as twin time and others don't, maybe insurance?

[spaner]

God dam, F*ck bobM, you gott'a put up with a lot of sh!t, on a daily basis. I had no idea.
Hope you shield Laurie from this kind of crap.

Apply, because you have the time.

If not, then Fr@ck off...

Understand? What could be simpler?

These are the guys he wants. Are you WAY above, then NO...
Are you below?..Then NO...

Hello, are you a retard?

THEN, NO...

[Changes in Latitudes]

God dam, F*ck bobM, you gott'a put up with a lot of sh!t, on a daily basis. I had no idea.
Hope you shield Laurie from this kind of crap.

Apply, because you have the time.

If not, then Fr@ck off...

Understand? What could be simpler?

These are the guys he wants. Are you WAY above, then NO...
Are you below?..Then NO...

Hello, are you a retard?

THEN, NO...

Can somebody get this guy laid or give him a Snickers bar or something!?

[spaner]

Nope, just some eggs...

I'm OK now....


I'll take a prostitute though, if you've got one handy...

[Changes in Latitudes]

[J31]

The Cessna 337 has some interesting engine out characteristics that are very different from a conventional twin. A 337 engine failure can kill you just as fast if not handled properly for the type. It does not have asymmetrical engine out issues but does have a critical engine and procedures that must be followed or continued flight on one engine will be short lived. Unlike a conventional twin you DO NOT retract the undercarriage until sufficient speed and obstacle clearance has been attained due to the drag produced opening the gear doors.

The high gross 337 with a pod will carry more, fly further, use shorter runways, than a Seneca but is about 10 kts slower.

It is a twin and will teach you as much as a similar conventional twin.

[mrsbitchy]

LOL spaner, thanks for hoping to spare me He put it in because, yes - people always ask I wonder why we always hire the guys after fire season is over Multi time is multi time! If you have close to 500 MPIC we are looking for you! But I like your ad better

[iflyforpie]

Lots of 337 accidents come from fuel mismanagement. Most 337 operations are at maximum endurance, and fuel tanks must be changed at the correct time. Change to auxiliaries too soon, and the excess goes out the main vents. Blow the main tanks, and you have no way to get the fuel out of the auxilliaries since they have no boost pumps. The fact that the engines are front and rear and the tanks and pumps are right and left further confuses things.

If you blow a main tank, the unofficial procedure is to immediately switch both engines to aux. That way you might keep one engine going. Then after identifying the failed engine by instruments and verifying with throttle, you swap the dead engine to cross feed because the nearly empty main tank from the running engine is now being filled with the return from the aux. Then you turn on the opposite boost pump and restart the failed engine, get it running, then switch it to aux because the engine pump is now primed.

[AuxBatOn]

I challenge you to fly an F18 with 1 engine out and tell me there is no adverse yaw...

[Rockie]

I challenge you to fly an F18 with 1 engine out and tell me there is no adverse yaw...

Just ask the demo pilot at Lethbridge.

Years ago Transport Canada didn't consider it asymmetrical thrust either forcing a lot of hornet drivers to go out and rent a light twin in order to get their multi/IFR. In the early nineties uncharacteristic common sense prevailed though and TC changed their mind.

[North Shore]

I challenge you to fly an F18 with 1 engine out and tell me there is no adverse yaw...

Well, you arrange the date and time, and I'll worry about the yaw!

[pelmet]

Unlike a conventional twin you DO NOT retract the undercarriage until sufficient speed and obstacle clearance has been attained due to the drag produced opening the gear doors.

Not always true. I flew a model with the Uvalde gear door mod. The rear doors are removed and just like a 172 RG....positive rate(or do we say climb in some operations)....Gear up regardless of obstacles.