TYH Crash Site

klimman123 · Post by **klimman123** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:04 am

Flying into YTH the other day I came across an old crash site about 20miles south east of the airport. Looked like a DC3 or something similar. Surprisingly, it was pretty much in one piece. I managed to get a few good pics of it. Anyone know of the history of the crash? Or how about other interesting sites to be viewed from the air?

Cheers

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:09 am

can you post the pictures that you got...

klimman123 · Post by **klimman123** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:13 am

Not sure how to post pics.

Gator · Post by **Gator** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:13 am

I think it is a C46 that Lamb air operated

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:13 pm

klimman123 wrote:Not sure how to post pics.

go here:

http://www.imagecave.com/

sign up, and upload the picture. The site will generate the link you need, just copy and paste the EZCode link.

Rubberbiscuit · Post by **Rubberbiscuit** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:30 pm

Yes, that sounds like the lamb Air C-46. They ran out of gas I belive.

JBI · Post by **JBI** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:34 pm

Not sure the exact story.

As confirmed by the pther posters it's a C-46 from Lambair.

Someone may know more about it than I do so I will gladly stand corrected. I remember hearing something odd in that they were ferrying diesel in the aux tanks and then they either ran out of gas or switched to the wrong tank.

I did hear that everybody survived it though, and it makes for a great view flying over it.

pelmet · Post by **pelmet** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:56 pm

I thought the C-46 in Churchill was a Lambair machine. I have a nice picture but don't know how to post it.

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:21 pm

pelmet wrote:I thought the C-46 in Churchill was a Lambair machine. I have a nice picture but don't know how to post it.

Here's the one in Churchill. Miss Piggy:

klimman123 · Post by **klimman123** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:33 pm

I uploaded the pics to Avcanada's photo gallery. You should be able to view them tomorrow. Maybe??

Post by **avcanada** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:11 pm

The photos are viewable now.

Disco Stu · Post by **Disco Stu** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:54 pm

Any chance you could find it again and post the GPS coordinates so the rest of us can find it?

Anyone know the story of the wreck 20 miles from Shamattawa on the ZTM-YGX track?

JBI · Post by **JBI** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:31 pm

Stu, I don't have the exact GPS co-ordinates, but if I remember correctly it's roughly half way between YTH and Pikwitonei about 3-5 miles NE of the track. It can be a little difficult to spot though cause of trees.

bigfssguy · Post by **bigfssguy** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:10 pm

The Lamb Air C-46 is in YYQ, just drove by it on my way to work about an hour ago. If i remember correctly and i may be wrong but i believe it was grossly overweight on take off and lost an engine. tried to com back around and land on the runway but was a little too low and nosed it into the ground. Apparently if it had been about 10 feet higher it would have skimmed the trees and made it in.

The Shamtown wreck 20 west is a DC-3 i believe. I saw it once on a fam trip. Kinda hard to miss it is orange or red and silver kinda stands out like a sore thumb just south of the river.

i was in Thompson for 2 years and i never once heard about this crash 20 SE. I'll ask around and see what i can find from the old timers in YTH. Must have been alongt time ago if i had never heard of it.

red003 · Post by **red003** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:47 am

here's the dc3 that's near shamattawa:

woah! how do i make that smaller?

red003 · Post by **red003** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:49 am

stu: apparently the dc3 lost an engine in the overshoot out of shamattawa and tried to go back to gillam on one. it's pointing pretty much straight at gillam and as you can see it's fairly intact. and as far as i understand everyone walked away.

gasper · Post by **gasper** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:58 am

........and in the same general area of Northern Manitoba, I once spotted something like a yellow Cub (or Taylorcraft or...?) in the mid 1980's doing a Calm Air Sked in the Twin Otter. It was crashed in the middle of nowhere, right on the track from The Pas to Lynn Lake. Time has erased the exact location in my memory, but the aircraft as I remember was possibly halfway between the two locations and relatively intact as far as wreckage goes. It may well have been south of Flin Flon???

I remember circling it and reporting it to the FSS who said it had been reported multiple times through the years. Anybody else ever see it? ...Wonder what was the cause of that?

short bus · Post by **short bus** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:05 am

speaking of gillam, is that an islander you took that picture from?

red003 · Post by **red003** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:25 am

FSS · Post by **FSS** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:41 pm

That C46 wasn't Lambair, maybe OCA. It was about 1978-79. They were hauling fuel to some site, when after take off the "good" engine quit according to the call. We had him on the DF and a TC safety type was in the FSS, commandeered a chopper which was running up and ran the DF out to these guys, got there as they were crawling out of the aircraft, landed picked them up and had them at the hospital all with in hour. And by four o'clock both pilots were in the Trappers buying beer all around for us FSS types

. They had no way to dump the fuel in the bladders.

sprucemonkey · Post by **sprucemonkey** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:48 pm

the new paint sure made it a safer aircraft.

check da pm's red 0000003

FSS · Post by **FSS** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:25 am

bigfssguy, I also remember well Miss Piggy. The PMQ, which I believe have all been bulldozed down, where I lived was just off the approach to 33. If I remember right it was late evening and I was in or going to bed when it happened and a call out to the FSS. Crew were ok and I said I appreciated the fact they were lined up as if not, we wouldn't likey be talking to each other. There is also a C46 off approach in Coral Harbour. I think one of the saving graces of these aircraft was the big gut on them which took the brunt of a crash thus allowing the crew to survive. I would have thought Miss Piggy would have been removed by now, as that happened more than 30 years ago. Wilst I waxing history, there is or was a DC3 off the side of the runway in Coral Harbour, ran off the runway in wx, legendary pilot Charlie Watt. One radio operator on board was a 250 pounder and pulled the seat belt out of it's bracket. He refused to get on an aircraft again and came out on a ship to Churchill and train south. Charlie was the pilot who flew the York into the The Pas and got out saying this is as far as I go with this machine. It sat there for years before TC said it had to be removed from airport property. Sortly after that some locals set it on fire and burnt it. Would have been a great museum piece.

wantok · Post by **wantok** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:37 am

This are the details on the Gillam Shamattawa DC 3 as I heard them.

The DC3 was enroute Gillam - Shamattawa with a load of fuel in a bladder. Lost an engine and couldn't maintain (there might have been icing involved, can't remember all the details). When they landed (crashed) the tail swung around and the bladder went out the back taking the tail off. There was an engineer siting in the back who got injured (not fatally) when the bladder let go.

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:33 am

The DC3 east of YTH is just north of the track of YTH-ZGI by about a mile or two and about 20 miles ish.

giligan · Post by **giligan** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:19 pm

If you're right on course between God's River and Thompson the guy (or girl) on the North side of the aircraft can see it approx 1 mile north of track. As I recall it's 16 DME It is kind of situated north of a bigger lake and east of a smaller one. Someone told me that a joker painted Skyward on the side of it.
giligan