Buffalo Airways plane catches fire in Yellowknife

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Brutal, hopefully its not a loss, beautiful old workhorse
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the russian version of the dc3 had a woodstove in the back with handles to throw it out if necessary
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They sure have had some bad luck over the last few years. Glad the crew got out safe and I hope they are able to salvage the ol girl and get her back in the air soon.
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Comment by someone on cbc site:

"Time to ban these dangerous antiques before a plane load of people go down in a flaming wreck.....Buffalo Joe must have sold enough T Shirts to buy a new modern fleet by now."
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Glad that everyone's safe!

Sad that there's not a season 6 so we can see what happened...
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flyinthebug wrote:They sure have had some bad luck over the last few years. Glad the crew got out safe and I hope they are able to salvage the ol girl and get her back in the air soon.

Are you sure it's all down to just bad luck?
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PositiveRate27 wrote:
flyinthebug wrote:They sure have had some bad luck over the last few years. Glad the crew got out safe and I hope they are able to salvage the ol girl and get her back in the air soon.

Are you sure it's all down to just bad luck?
I was being polite. 8)
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:smt040 :lol:
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North Shore wrote:Glad that everyone's safe!

Sad that there's not a season 6 so we can see what happened...
Well actually there is a season six in the works. Not quite as long as the other seasons, 8-10 episodes or something due to a late start but the camera guys are running around doing their thing.
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CpnCrunch wrote:Comment by someone on cbc site:

"Time to ban these dangerous antiques before a plane load of people go down in a flaming wreck.....Buffalo Joe must have sold enough T Shirts to buy a new modern fleet by now."
I've brought them home single engine more than 15 times. Haven't flown one in 15 years...yup, it's time.
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CpnCrunch wrote:Comment by someone on cbc site:

"Time to ban these dangerous antiques before a plane load of people go down in a flaming wreck.....Buffalo Joe must have sold enough T Shirts to buy a new modern fleet by now."
So ignorant it's comical.
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I think they should write articles every time Buffalo has an uneventful flight, then you'll get my attention.

"Next time, on Ice Pilots. A reliable airplane delivers its passengers and freight on time, safely "
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You'd probably get pretty bored reading about their daily sched.
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I can't help feeling like this is a non-event with some pretty bulls88t reporting by CBC. I see a picture of a C46 with its right cowls open and some foam stuck to the sides. So an engine caught fire, the crew stopped the plane, the fire was put out and the plane was towed back in and the airport reopened 20 minutes later. Big deal. I've had an engine fire before. The difference is I suppose that I don't have a TV show and my plane wasn't really old or something. Whatever. Also, the reporter should receive criticism for the wording of the article: the plane "blew" an engine, did it? Good thing reporters at the CBC take the time to look up the proper terms for events like this. Now we know the engine caught on fire because it "blew". Awesome. As long as we're talking about old-fashioned crap that doesn't do what it's supposed to do anymore, could we have a look at the CBC itself? Buffalo can change whatever gasket is leaking in the carburetor and get the plane back in the air five minutes from now, and the reporter can get back to writing the kind of "dog bites man" stories he/she is clearly more qualified for.
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Gee whizz frozen the guy did his job perfect. Exaggerate stories to compete with the independent Chanel's brand of newsertainment.
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So you guys are saying if WJ had an engine fire that got sprayed with foam we wouldnt get to hear about it in the paper.
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frozen solid wrote:I can't help feeling like this is a non-event with some pretty bulls88t reporting by CBC. I see a picture of a C46 with its right cowls open and some foam stuck to the sides. So an engine caught fire, the crew stopped the plane, the fire was put out and the plane was towed back in and the airport reopened 20 minutes later. Big deal. I've had an engine fire before. The difference is I suppose that I don't have a TV show and my plane wasn't really old or something. Whatever. Also, the reporter should receive criticism for the wording of the article: the plane "blew" an engine, did it? Good thing reporters at the CBC take the time to look up the proper terms for events like this. Now we know the engine caught on fire because it "blew". Awesome. As long as we're talking about old-fashioned crap that doesn't do what it's supposed to do anymore, could we have a look at the CBC itself? Buffalo can change whatever gasket is leaking in the carburetor and get the plane back in the air five minutes from now, and the reporter can get back to writing the kind of "dog bites man" stories he/she is clearly more qualified for.

Why wouldn't CBC make an issue of this. If you have ever watched this so called 'Reality" show. Every 10 minutes there is a disaster about to happen so maybe CBC is only piggy backing on what a huge issue this is going to be on the "Reality" show. Regardless Buffalo has had a run of issues in the last 2 years. 2 gear ups. An engine fire on a DC3 that was lucky to make it back to the field. Not sure how they are still operating without interruption. At minimum Transport would have suspended some O/C for a short period of time. Maybe Transport and Joe not getting along is good for "Reality" show ratings.

MaximumAmazing you are correct. How many times over the last couple of years have the other airlines out of YZF made the media for precautionary engine shut downs. You certainly don't read about all the engine shut downs Buffalo has on CBC.
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It seems they were lucky it only happen on the ground and not airborne in the middle of nowhere.
Not even mentioning having an airport fire crew on the spot (and on the ball) to save the airframe.
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Yeah I forgot: "the News" is the original "reality" show.
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2013-12-09
Narrative:
A Buffalo Airways Curtiss-Wright C46A-45CU (C-GTXW/ BFL506) from Yellowknife, NT (CYZF) to Hay River, NT (CYHY) rejected take-off runway 16 at 1508Z due to a right engine failure followed by a fire. All runways were closed and emergency procedures implemented. The aircraft was removed from runway 16 at 1536Z and runways were re-opened. Buffalo Airways (BFL169) and Northwestern Air Lease (PLR507) were delayed for approximately 30 minutes. First Air (FAB121) elected to return to CYHY.
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If all news stories were as direct and to the point as a CADORS report, a newspaper would be one page...and then I might even read it.
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linecrew wrote:If all news stories were as direct and to the point as a CADORS report, a newspaper would be one page...and then I might even read it.
Almost every CADOR is a company narration not a TSB narration. They are only saying scheduled flights were delayed. There was a lot more then 2 flights delayed or diverted due to all runways being closed.
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UPDATE: TSB Report#A13W0181: The Buffalo Airways Ltd. Curtiss-Wright C46A-45CU, C-GTXW, was operating as flight BFL506 from Yellowknife, NT (CYZF) to Hay River, NT (CYHY). During the initial take-off roll on Runway 16, the flight crew observed the fire light and fire bell for the No. 2 engine (Pratt and Whitney - USA, R-2800-51M3). The flight crew rejected the take-off coming to rest at the intersection of Runways 16 and 10. ARFF responded within a minute and applied foam to the right engine area. There were no injuries to the three flight crew who were all able to evacuate through the main cabin door. Damage was confined to the rear of the engine and was limited to various hoses and wires. Maintenance determined that oil from the No. 1 cylinder had ignited on exhaust components; full maintenance report to follow.
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