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Vintage propellor identification

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Complete novice when it comes to propellors but here goes!
This propellor has been in my fathers shed as long as I can remember. He's always wanted to tidy it up and make an ornament out of it.
We would love to know a bit more about it as to what type of plane it is off. Please can anyone help?
There are some marking on the hub, but they are faded. as far I can make out they are as follows:
The question mark denotes either an undistinguishable letter or a guess as to the previous letter of the sequence
On one side it reads:
DH GYPSY MAJOR
DRG NO A? 49
GA ? S NO 6085

On the other side of the hub it reads,
D 6.75
P 4.17
AUG 1953

the metal on the leading edge is that Brass or another soft metal?

Thank you for your help (hopefully)
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Re: Vintage propellor identification

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A quick google search of the numbers say Dehavilland Tiger Moth

In my highly biased personal opinion

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Definitely English built DH 82 A
However, they were also used on the DH Gypsymoth
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The gypsy majour engine was widely used globally. Google gypsy major for best results

D is diameter 6.75 feet
p is pitch 4.17? Feet I believe
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fleet16b wrote:they were also used on the DH Gypsymoth
A prop made to be installed on a Gipsy Moth wouldn't likely say "Gipsy Major." Of course, that's not to say this prop couldn't be used on a DH60, just that it wasn't made for one.

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lownslow wrote:
fleet16b wrote:they were also used on the DH Gypsymoth
A prop made to be installed on a Gipsy Moth wouldn't likely say "Gipsy Major." Of course, that's not to say this prop couldn't be used on a DH60, just that it wasn't made for one.
LnS.
I should have known better , the Gypsymoth was powewered by a Cirrus Engine

However, the Gypsy Major Engine varients were used on these aircraft , so the prop could be off anything
It is definitely English made from the looks of it
It does not look like any T/Moth prop that i have ever seen


DH.60GIII Moth Major
In 1934 from the 58th DH.60GIII onwards, the engine name was changed to Gipsy Major and the resulting variant was renamed the DH.60G III Moth Major. 96 were built including ten as fuselages for the Royal Air Force as Queen Bee target drones, production ending in May 1935. A final Moth Major was built by the de Havilland Technical School, giving total production of the DH.60GIII of 154

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Only about a half-dozen of the aeroplane types listed above ever operated in Canada..

How, where and when was it acquired? If it was acquired near a seaplane base/water aerodrome, or an ex-military aerodrome, it might help narrow down the search.
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Contact Hercules Propellers. They refurbish used and vintage props.
http://www.hercprops.com/reproductionpropellers.html or Clark Industries of Tottenham, Ont.
http://clarkindustries.on.ca/

The second propeller from the top looks similar to yours:
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fleet16b wrote:I should have known better , the Gypsymoth was powewered by a Cirrus Engine
I think you're thinking of the original DH.60, often referred to as a Cirrus Moth. The DH.60G, M and I believe X were all powered by earlier upright (cylinders stick up) Gipsy engines.
fleet16b wrote:It does not look like any T/Moth prop that i have ever seen
Same here. Those tips are very Spitfire-esque, aren't they?
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Note that the square side of the tip is actually on the leading edge, opposite to those funky props you see on Cirruses, Corvalises and whatnot nowadays.

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My best guess is that it was a propeller from a DHC-1 Chipmunk which was powered by a Gypsy Major engine. One clue is the August 1953 date. By that time, the Chipmunk replaced the DH-82C Tiger Moth as the RCAF primary trainer.
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fleet16b wrote:
lownslow wrote:
fleet16b wrote:they were also used on the DH Gypsymoth
A prop made to be installed on a Gipsy Moth wouldn't likely say "Gipsy Major." Of course, that's not to say this prop couldn't be used on a DH60, just that it wasn't made for one.
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I should have known better , the Gypsymoth was powewered by a Cirrus Engine
If you really want to know....

You will find if you read about the DH.60 history that the original Moth was powered by a Cirrus engine. These were made from surplus WWI Renault engines modified by actually cutting it in half and then completing the modification as required. Why cut an engine in half?....because the engines available at the time were either too little power or too much.

This Cirrus powered Moth was called......a De Havilland Moth. But when later engines started being put on the DH.60, they came up with the different names to enable identification. So the Cirrus powered DH.60 became the Cirrus Moth, the few powered by the Genet engine were Genet Moths. The ones powered by the Gipsy engine(not spelled Gypsy which drives purists crazy) were called Gipsy Moths. All different types of the DH.60. Remember, the Gipsy Major engine is different than the Gipsy engine although based on its predecessor.

The Tiger Moth, later designated as the DH.82 was a significantly modified version of the DH.60 built mainly for the military to their specifications. Unless you are talking about the actual original Tiger Moth which was a totally different type.

All part of the Moth series which got its original name because of its folding wings that was done when resting on the ground as compared to the non-folding wings of other aircraft....which was like the a moth in real life when resting on the ground as compared to a butterfly with its open wings. De Havilland was a lepidopterist which explains the insect names for some of his aircraft.

And now you know....the rest of the story. Except which type of aircraft this particular prop was on.
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