Sunwing is hiring seasonal pilots

[Gilles Hudicourt]

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... =7&t=95387

POSITION: Pilots (Seasonal, Contract)
DEPARTMENT: Flight Operations
LOCATION: Bases across Canada
REPORTING TO: Chief Pilot
POSTING DATE: March 07, 2014
POSTING CLOSE: Open until filled

During the course of duty, Pilots are expected to conduct themselves in accordance with company policies and government regulations.

Qualifications:
• Must have Canadian Airline Transport Pilot License and valid Aviation Medical
• Must be a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada
• 3,000 hours total time – Lower than 3000hours total time may be considered based on experience
• Positive Attitude
• No Accidents / Incidents / Violations in last 3 years

Ground School start date – August 2014

No type rating required. Based on start date, it seems to be for the next winter season. This is very good news. I hope that they will find ample candidates willing to accept seasonal work.

[tiscali]

Does anyone know if these seasonal pilots will be called again for the next season or it is ust one season shot and then goodbye?

Do these seasonal s have same benefits then the permanent one. How all this seasonal business works?

Thank you

[garfield]

Yeah me too I would like to know what seasonnal ''means''.

Let's say the pay for a F/O is 3-4000 a month, so you're paid this amount half the year?

As tiscali says, do you have priority for the next season? Any chance to work in Europe during summer?

[FL320]

Seasonal means from xxx (date of training varies) to May 31. Pay during the contract is 5500$ per month ( about year 2 scale) and you can do some overtime paid x1,5 or 2. You can bring very good money. But you have nothing: no insurance, no travel benfits except jumpseat with other airlines, no holidays.
You can't go to Europe as it is a summer deployment and you have to be permanent to bid.
Seasonal pilots are part of the union and are on a separate seniority list and the company offers permanent position according to the list. So your chances to get called back the next year are pretty good (except if your performances were not great). You don't have to sign a bond and the company pays for your type rating....(pretty rare nowdays except at the Majors..)
This year "maybe" about half of the seasonal will get a permanent position. Next season they will hire a lot more seasonal pilots, but if you're not in the first courses and on top of the seniority list i suppose it will be pretty hard to get a permanent position at the end of May 2015....but who knows...
It's a nice company, great people and flights are amazing. Had a lot more fun than at Jazz in my point of vue.

[Spruce Moose]

Thanks for the info FL320. Does anyone know if they've started interviewing for these positions yet?

[loopa]

Worse case you have a 737NG type rating, more than 500 hours on type, and the world is your oyster.

[tiscali]

Any rumors about interview time? And any ideas what tipy of questions are asked at the interview?

Thank you guys

[tiscali]

Any rumors about interview time? And any ideas what tyype of questions are asked at the interview?

Thank you guys

[Bucko]

Does anyone know how long training is and if your paid while training, if they pay for your accommodation while away training etc. stuff like that?

[CMD-A]

3-4 weeks of gs, 2-3 weeks of sim. Training pay used to be $100 a day per-diem, hotels and flights paid for.
All those questions are good questions for your interview though.

[scopiton]

2/3 weeks of sim:how many hours does this give of PF time before checkride ?
Just curious.

[CMD-A]

You can check tc website for the requirements or ask gill he knows.
Whatever the tc requirements are, unless you need more training.

[Makas]

Hi all, just a quick question. Making the move back to Canada with the family and looking for upcoming opportunities. I have noticed that all airlines currently recruiting either ask if you have had any 'incidents' or in Sunwings case exclude pilots who have had any incidents in the last 3 years. Now in 10,000 hours I have had a number of incidents including bird strikes, Nav Aid failures on approach in IMC, an engine failure, go arounds due to ATC or vehicles on the runway... all the usual suspects when operating around Asia and the South Pacific. All incidents were handled correctly with no adverse outcome. It seems to me though that if you have been involved in an aviation incident, regardless of the situation or outcome, you are excluded. Is the definition of an incident in HR's eyes an event that results in a crash or loss of life? Any clarification on this issue appreciated.

Thanks.

[cdnpilot77]

My guess is they are trying to figure out if you forgot to put the gear down on landing or taxied into the mud because you were texting, that type of thing....but of course stand to be corrected

[ea306]

Hi all, just a quick question. Making the move back to Canada with the family and looking for upcoming opportunities. I have noticed that all airlines currently recruiting either ask if you have had any 'incidents' or in Sunwings case exclude pilots who have had any incidents in the last 3 years. Now in 10,000 hours I have had a number of incidents including bird strikes, Nav Aid failures on approach in IMC, an engine failure, go arounds due to ATC or vehicles on the runway... all the usual suspects when operating around Asia and the South Pacific. All incidents were handled correctly with no adverse outcome. It seems to me though that if you have been involved in an aviation incident, regardless of the situation or outcome, you are excluded. Is the definition of an incident in HR's eyes an event that results in a crash or loss of life? Any clarification on this issue appreciated.

Thanks.

You are reading too much into it... The company is not that unreasonable. Normal reportable incidents as you mention are day to day operational occurrences. That would never be held against anyone.

[Makas]

Hi guys, thanks for the feedback, I thought as much but I thought it best to check. I feel fairly uncomfortable ticking a box saying I've had 'No Incidents' when I've had plenty. It's a philosophical argument I guess and although the definition of 'incident' is clear from a pilots perspective I can see how HR types may misinterpret it as say 'negligence'. I once worked for a large company that held the theory that if a pilot said they'd had no incidents it reflected poorly on their integrity. In fact, we were given a long sheet of paper during the interview process to write them all out then we had to pick one to talk about with the group. In saying that, I'm not going to sideline myself for a matter of interpretation.

Appreciate the info, safe flying.

[GRK]

If I may add to this, I'm pretty sure that the "Incidents" being referred to are those things for which you may have been responsible for and for which your company or your regulator have rules against or are reportable. For example the breaking of CARS or Regs for which there would be a possibility of repercussions to you and/or your company. Bird strike reports or go around reports are usually used for gathering data. Unless of course you took off on purpose in the middle of a flock of geese, or managed to bungle up your stabilized approach criteria on purpose and then failed to report it after a go around. Or didn't fly a go around after said bungle. So unless you have any screw ups on record, you have nothing to worry about.

[Joe Blow Schmo]

Hi all, just a quick question. Making the move back to Canada with the family and looking for upcoming opportunities. I have noticed that all airlines currently recruiting either ask if you have had any 'incidents' or in Sunwings case exclude pilots who have had any incidents in the last 3 years. Now in 10,000 hours I have had a number of incidents including bird strikes, Nav Aid failures on approach in IMC, an engine failure, go arounds due to ATC or vehicles on the runway... all the usual suspects when operating around Asia and the South Pacific. All incidents were handled correctly with no adverse outcome. It seems to me though that if you have been involved in an aviation incident, regardless of the situation or outcome, you are excluded. Is the definition of an incident in HR's eyes an event that results in a crash or loss of life? Any clarification on this issue appreciated.

Thanks.

If you want pilots who have never had a bird strike, navaid failure, go-around or engine failure, you're going to have to hire 250 hour wonders and even then you might have problems. I've always interpreted "incidents" in that regard to mean accidents that didn't meet the legal definition of an accident (i.e., no serious injury or major aircraft damage).

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Sunwing just renewed their hiring ad but unlike the previous ad, which required no 737 type rating, this one does:

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopi ... =7&t=96417

POSITION: Pilots (Type Rated) – Seasonal, Contract
DEPARTMENT: Flight Operations
LOCATION: Bases across Canada
REPORTING TO: Chief Pilot
POSTING DATE: May 6, 2014
POSTING CLOSE: Open until position filled
Number of Positions: 120

During the course of duty, Pilots are expected to conduct themselves in accordance with company policies and government regulations.

Responsibilities:
• Ensuring that safety is the primary objective by adhering to the Sunwing safety policy and utilizing the appropriate safety reporting program in order to identify and communicate all known hazards and risks to the organization.
• Ensuring continual improvement through the periodic review of documented processes
• Assisting in flight planning and any other preparations for flight as required by Company Policy
• Conducting flight duties and responsibilities as outlined the Flight Operations Manual
• Monitoring all aspects of flight and noting safety concerns to the company
• Participating in the execution of cockpit procedures, emergency procedures, checklist procedures and instrument approach procedures in accordance with the procedures and drills in the Aircraft Flight Manual and /or Company approved procedures.
• During ground operations, supervising the loading of the aircraft, fuelling, and the preparation of the load sheet as required
• Maintaining a current medical
• Maintaining the ability to work in Canada
• Maintaining a current passport
• Other flight operations related duties as assigned.

Qualifications:
• Must have Canadian Airline Transport Pilot License and valid Aviation Medical
• Must be current and rated B737NG with Transport Canada License
• Must be a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada
• 3000 hours total time – Lower than 3000 hours total time maybe considered based on experience
• Positive attitude
• No accidents / incidents / violations in last 3 years

Candidates are also eligible for bonuses, overtime payments, in accordance with Sunwing’s policies and procedures. 80 – 90 credit hours per month.

If you are interested in applying, please forward your resume and cover letter to hr@sunwing.ca with the job title in the subject line. We would like to thank all that apply however only those who meet the qualifications will be contacted.

At Sunwing we want to fly higher when it comes to employment equity. We, therefore, encourage applications from Aboriginal peoples, women, members of a visible minority and persons with a disability.

WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON AT SUNWING ?

Do they have the feeling that they will will once again allowed to import Temporary Foreign Worker pilots next winter instead of hiring and training Canadian pilots ? I was hoping this nonsense was over at Sunwing. Was I wrong ?

[pilotman15]

I applied to the earlier post that did NOT have the 737 type rating listed. I met all the requirements and didn't hear a thing.

[volez]

So, did anybody non type rated got actually called following the first job posting ???

[aycarumba]

under qualification: Must be a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada
Foreign pilots don't fall into that category? Correct me if i'm wrong

[volez]

That is exactly how they prove to the government that they have first tried to look for candidates in Canada, that is the normal procedure.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

under qualification: Must be a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident of Canada
Foreign pilots don't fall into that category? Correct me if i'm wrong

This is the ad that they will use to exclude Canadians and show to ESDC that they attempted to hire Canadians. Then they will hire the Europeans instead. That's how they do every year.

[aycarumba]

If that is the case, that's a d*** move. Even fast food restaurants are eliminating foreign workers (BC and Alberta); how can an airline operation get away with stuff like this??