Question about Recency Requirements

[DollarShaveClub]

I've had a private for a two years now and I am in commercial training. I haven't done anything with the recency requirements below.

The 5 year requirements say:

Within 12 months of the flight -
- completed a flight review
- instructor has certified the holder meets the skill requirements
for issuance of a permit
- holder has completed the examination specified in the licensing standards

Two year requirement:
- has completed a recurrent training program in accordance with the licensing
standards within 24 months of the flight

Because I am already a commercial student in training and receiving lessons from the instructor do the above still apply? Does the instructor still need to certify that a holder meets the skill requirements even through he is giving me flight training?

[Colonel Sanders]

Because I am already a commercial student in training and receiving lessons from the instructor do the above still apply?

They apply to anyone who wishes to exercise
the privileges of their pilot licence, which in
your case is when you want to act as PIC.

Receiving dual flight instruction (by itself)
does NOT count for either 5 year or 2 year.

You reset your 5 year timer every time that
you log PIC. If you go longer than 5 years
without logging PIC, you must do a flight
review. Try to avoid that.

You reset your 2 year timer in many different
ways (see CAR 401.05 and 421.05) which
in your case would include passing your PPL
written test and PPL flight test. The easiest
way to reset your 2 year timer is to fill in
the ASL test (answers included) at:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/documents/ca- ... nglish.pdf

Note that in the entire history of Canada, not
one pilot has ever been charged by TC for not
being 2 year legal. It was put in there to make
ICAO happy.

Note that all the above is in regard of your acting
as PIC. You must comply with the six month
rule if you wish to carry pax.

[DollarShaveClub]

Thank you, sir.

Reading the CARS, I see the "under direct supervision" requirement for 35 hours dual.
What about building the 30 solo flight time? I ask because I am training on the instructor's personal aircraft (C150). I have hours on a C172 at another airport to take friends and family flying. Can I log that PIC time towards my CPL?

[Colonel Sanders]

Complete subject change.

You log that PIC time in your personal logbook.

However, you can only log that PIC time in your
PTR if your instructor says you can. It's up to him.

N.B. If I were your instructor, that PIC time
would go into your PTR. However I cannot speak
for every other instructor in Canada.

[photofly]

i ask because I am training on the instructor's personal aircraft (C150).

Keep very quiet about that. Did you buy a share in his airplane? If not, he's in contravention of CAR406.03, and TC might refuse to recognize your training time with him.

[Colonel Sanders]

PF: his instructor is not doing ab initio.

If the aircraft is at "arm's length" to the instructor
(we do not know the details of the C of R) then
there is no contravention (for CPL training).

I will admit that Dalton McGuinty would not approve
and might send his Ontario Career College Police
(complete with badges) after him, but Dalton's busy
trying to lie his way out of jail right now over that
billion-dollar gas plant vote buy in the last election.

I apologize in advance to anyone here whom is offended
by my cavalier attitude towards Dalton McGuinty's likes
and dislikes.

PS I am not kidding about the OCC police. They raided
an FTU near me, seized all the PTR's and issued a $10,000
fine which unfortunately had to come out of the class 4
wages. Remember, government is

Of the people
By the people
For the people

unless you live in Canada, in which case you serve your
"civil servant" (cough) masters.

Remember, CPL training is EVIL in Ontario, people. Feel
guilty about it. On that note, has everyone here got their
chainsaw license?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanny_state

[photofly]

PF: his instructor is not doing ab initio.

If the aircraft is at "arm's length" to the instructor
(we do not know the details of the C of R) then
there is no contravention (for CPL training).

Im not saying that the "instructor's personal aircraft", as the OP puts it, can't somehow be argued to be "arm's length" from the instructor, but I think you'd need a particularly special kind of lawyer to keep a straight face and claim it was so. At any rate, I'd keep very quiet about it lest the wrong people get interested in asking.

[Colonel Sanders]

a particularly special kind of lawyer to keep a straight face

I know I shouldn't keep mentioning Dalton
McGuinty but ... there are hundreds of lawyers
like that just down the street from here in
Parliament. And Queen's Park, in Toronto.