Ornge faces 17 labour code Charges
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Capt. Underpants
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Re: Ornge faces 17 labour code Charges
The Ministry of Labour has a much better chance of holding Ornge management accountable than TC does. The "SMS effect" on TC's enforcement policy has killed any possibility of them being able to seriously prosecute such cases. Very sad.
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nothingbeatsflying
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Re: Ornge faces 17 labour code Charges
I dunno why, but this whole story has really interested me. I've been following it closely since the Moosonee accident.
I watched the video of TC in front of the government committee and I am baffled as to how they didn't suspend their OC when it was discovered that their night training was inadequate. Doesn't a critical finding in a PVI require TC to suspend the OC until the operator can prove they are compliant?
I am extremely curious as to what the TSB report is going to contain. And whether or not the family of the crew will file lawsuits. It's been over a year now, so that report has got to be close to being published.
BTW, love the phrase "the SMS effect". Witty!
I watched the video of TC in front of the government committee and I am baffled as to how they didn't suspend their OC when it was discovered that their night training was inadequate. Doesn't a critical finding in a PVI require TC to suspend the OC until the operator can prove they are compliant?
I am extremely curious as to what the TSB report is going to contain. And whether or not the family of the crew will file lawsuits. It's been over a year now, so that report has got to be close to being published.
BTW, love the phrase "the SMS effect". Witty!
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single_swine_herder
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Re: Ornge faces 17 labour code Charges
Ornge would likely would have immediately voluntarily suspended night ops for the pilots not properly trained in accordance with the COM, and those who were not current for night landings. The ones not qualified would be woken from a sound sleep, and trained up to minimum standards described in the COM and their training records sent to their TC POI for verification, and assuming they meet the COM mins, would be released to line flying and ready for dispatch.
That could be done pretty quickly, and almost nobody would see anything wrong with the system.
Then there would have been a Corrective Action Plan (CAP) developed by the Ops Mgr of record and the Chief Pilot to make sure their internal systems were modified such that the problem wouldn't happen again.
The suspension of the total AOC in the only air ambulance service available isn't likely unless the problems were broadly systemic and the responsible operational control personnel proven to be incapable of properly controlling the place .... (as they would now appear to have been.) They could have called in help from private carriers or out of province operations to help in the short term until they could manage to come up to minimum standards.
In other words, the lack of night qualifications or IFR issues would likely be dealt with piecemeal relative to each issue found, until the infractions reached a critical mass(a) ....... Massa ..... get it? Massa .....
Then the Minister would need to be seen to be protecting their clients (the travelling public) and do an AOC suspension until the operation could be brought back into compliance with at least a skeleton framework of crew members.
That could be done pretty quickly, and almost nobody would see anything wrong with the system.
Then there would have been a Corrective Action Plan (CAP) developed by the Ops Mgr of record and the Chief Pilot to make sure their internal systems were modified such that the problem wouldn't happen again.
The suspension of the total AOC in the only air ambulance service available isn't likely unless the problems were broadly systemic and the responsible operational control personnel proven to be incapable of properly controlling the place .... (as they would now appear to have been.) They could have called in help from private carriers or out of province operations to help in the short term until they could manage to come up to minimum standards.
In other words, the lack of night qualifications or IFR issues would likely be dealt with piecemeal relative to each issue found, until the infractions reached a critical mass(a) ....... Massa ..... get it? Massa .....
Then the Minister would need to be seen to be protecting their clients (the travelling public) and do an AOC suspension until the operation could be brought back into compliance with at least a skeleton framework of crew members.
