Sorry you Alberta pilots, you can't fly in the USA

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Re: Sorry you Alberta pilots, you can't fly in the USA

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If I catch myself, I'll sometimes cheat and repeat my reg at the end.

"conflicting advise Alpha Bravo Charlie"
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That really isn't any better. Does saying "conflicting advise" clear up any confusion that wouldn't already be known by just saying your call sign? I think it's pretty obvious that if you add your call sign at the end that is who I should advise if I have any conflict with them.

I really think it would be helpful for everyone to write down a standard radio call and then go thru each word and try to eliminate whatever is just filler. Even the words that seam to join sentences together and add flow can be eliminated and actually sound better without them. It would shorten calls, give only the information needed, and is easier for others to take in.

One of the issues I find with people who tend to add lots to their radio rambling is the more they talk, the more "umms", "ands", etc fill up their calls. And in regards to saying the radio frequency you're broadcasting on when monitoring two frequnecies, as mentioned earlier by someone, if you're going to make a call, at least stay on frequency long enough for someone to be able to take in the information you just spewed out and formulate their own response.

I feel like people have great intentions in making these very clear blind calls with lots of information in them but it's similar to a bartender thinking they are doing you a favour by mixing your drink too strong. Those initial calls should have the minimum information and if someone needs more, they will respond and let you know. They don't need to be reminded to advise you if they are conflicting. That is why they have a radio!
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I can at least be honest enough to admit I'm worried about niss and his silent bag of dog dirt attack.

Let me try to find a picture of his dog. She looks crazy!

:( "Aahhhhhhhhhh.... Smith Falls traffic Cessna 172 Charlie Gulf X-ray X-ray X-ray, inbound for landing, if anyone and I mean anyone, has seen the phantom poop bandit today PLEASE advise."
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In an industry ( and a world in general ) already full to bursting with acronyms, why don't we compromise and allow people to conclude their position calls with the acronym "CPA" ? This way, it only takes up 0.4 seconds of airtime and those people who simply can't quit saying "conflicts please advise" can at least have their fix. :D
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position calls with the acronym "CPA"
--lmfaooooooo -- LSMFT -- that was the first acronym I ever saw/heard and it's gone down hill from there -- I can remember being at meetings and sitting there with Google open to enter acronyms so I could follow what was being said -- First, an acronym should never be part of the spoken language and when it's written the first reference should be spelled out completely -- that's for professional documents --

now for txt messages and twitter etc -- the english language is dead -- WTF :smt040 -- social media must be an alien plot to take over the world ---
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What if we make a new word for it Charlie? Like patwas, atis, cavok, waxoff, etc. very popular with flying folks.

I propose, ACTPA pronounced, act-paw. Full credit to white knuckle if we can pull this off.
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waxoff
-- saw that in a movie once --- lmfaoooooooo ;-)
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Liquid Charlie wrote:
waxoff
-- saw that in a movie once --- lmfaoooooooo ;-)
I added that one for the exponential possibilities of potentially comedic responses. :P
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Conflicting traffic drives me nuts. If I'm flying a VFR flight it's MY responsibility to look out for traffic. Not expect everybody to baby me and tell me that they're about to strike me.
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If I'm flying a VFR flight it's MY responsibility to look out for traffic
-- what and put down my ipad -- :mrgreen:
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Whatever happened to letting traffic know where YOU are?

When I am flying the Museum Biplane I am aware it's slow and (relatively) low so on a cross country every so often I will give a position report with a landmark, height and course.

When I'm entering an uncontrolled circuit I give a position report (as above) and my intentions at 10 and 5 miles then follow normal uncontrolled circuit procedures.

That way traffic should know where I am and hopefully they will advise where they are.

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Whatever happened to letting traffic know where YOU are?
-- I think the point is that people have gone too far the other way -- relying on xmitting position and not looking out the window enough -- my idea of flying for fun would be a cub with no electrics or radios -- i'm sure it can still be done -- I can remember going to fly-ins nordo and never gave it another thought about trying to figure out where the traffic was -- but as hinted maybe looking out the window is becoming a little bit of a lost art --
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