Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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I think you may have taken the comment the wrong way. I think he meant that he never intended for anyone who happens to work for a little mom&pop one-plane air service to feel like they were being targeted, just because the example air service in the cartoon was a little mom&pop one-plane air service.

I'm pretty sure that's all he meant by that. At least that's how I took it.

I liked the ASL when it arrived in print form. For a long time I thought it was the official way that accident reports were disseminated, and if there was an accident report I was curious to read about an accident I already knew about, I knew about how many issues to wait until I could read what happened.

I have not bothered to read an on-line one. In fact after it stopped coming I just figured it had petered out.
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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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Perhaps I did.
I Will await ASL's response to why after stating he did not wish to insult anyone he chose to add the backhanded qualifier that someone who identified with such an operstion might feel targeted.
He can PM if he likes and I will delete all my posts.

It is called marginalizating of dissenters. It is a very common TC tactic. It allows them to push any agenda that pops into their heads...and if you look at it over the decades, you will see that after imposing their regime on the aviation community, a year or two later, they completely reverse themselves....

They use it very effectively in their claims that if you refuse to waive your basic rights...well you just might be up to something....and surpridingly, it works.

I dont identify at all with that the supposed blacklist operation. But if it was not intended to insult, than that is it.
No qualifier..the innuendo and implication is there.

In any event this is a huge thread drift, and a personal thing between ASL's posts and mine so I will let it go for now..
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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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It's not just a TC tactic. It's the normal way to apologize for any activity seen as offensive when reported after-the-fact these days. Just listen to any politician, newsman, or celebrity who gets widely re-quoted after they've said something offensive: "Oh, i'm sorry, I apologize *if anyone was offended*". Seems innocuous enough, but what it really means is, if nobody was offended, then hell no, I don't apologize. There's no recognition that it was still offensive regardless of whether anyone stood up and objected.
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They use it very effectively in their claims that if you refuse to waive your basic rights...well you just might be up to something....and surpridingly, it works.
That attitude is systemic within their upper management.

If you refuse to co-operate or accept whatever they demand you will be totally destroyed in the industry.

Even if you win against them using the law they still destroy you.

Best thing that ever happened to me was getting blacklisted in Canada....it allowed my career to expand so I could retire in comfort.
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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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"Best thing that ever happened to me was getting blacklisted in Canada....it allowed my career to expand so I could retire in comfort."

Why then do you not give it a rest?
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trey kule wrote:Perhaps I did.
I Will await ASL's response to why after stating he did not wish to insult anyone he chose to add the backhanded qualifier that someone who identified with such an operstion might feel targeted.
He can PM if he likes and I will delete all my posts.

It is called marginalizating of dissenters. It is a very common TC tactic. It allows them to push any agenda that pops into their heads...and if you look at it over the decades, you will see that after imposing their regime on the aviation community, a year or two later, they completely reverse themselves....

They use it very effectively in their claims that if you refuse to waive your basic rights...well you just might be up to something....and surpridingly, it works.

I dont identify at all with that the supposed blacklist operation. But if it was not intended to insult, than that is it.
No qualifier..the innuendo and implication is there.

In any event this is a huge thread drift, and a personal thing between ASL's posts and mine so I will let it go for now..
OK Très Cool, I'll bite. I am sorry you feel that way, but you read way too much into what you think I mean when in fact I never submit to the BS you infer. Then you spread propaganda about what you think I mean when I was just visiting and reaching out to the crowd I care about.. I was talking about an aviation-themed cartoon strip we did for fun while pitching safety. Clearly as someone said earlier, humor and TC cannot co-exist. There is no tactic, no agenda, no regime and no innuendo coming from me... in fact, I have been butting heads with the TC establishment myself to keep the ASL going. Your over-analytical criticism is somewhat typical of avcanada being a forum where you have to watch every word you write, why people always remain anonymous (except for . and CD, good on them for that), and why people ultimately leave or avoid the forum. No need to cut and paste this PM response into the forum either, it is going in it right now too. Happy New Year and fly safe.
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ASL .... you and Leif have "fought the good fight" within TC to get helpful info to people in aviation for a very long time, and done a darned good job of it too.

On AvCanada, there are folks who view anything .... and I do mean ANYTHING said about anything or anyone at Transport that is positive (or even neutral) to be a red cape waived at a bull.

You could have said ....... the Inspector at the counter asked "How are you doing this morning?" and equate that twinge of courteous human interaction with being captured by the North Vietnamese and interrogated about anti-aircraft missile defences.

Pity .... because some of the most helpful, motivational, and knowledgeable people in my career have been TC Inspectors.

That said, one or two have also been the most obnoxious and professionally incompetent jerks it has been my misery to be exposed to, and would have been far better suited to wearing a black leather trench coat and a death's head cap badge as they searched attics in Holland in 1943.

Unfortunately, the boorish work done by one clod per region who should never have been let out in public is enough to destroy the great work done to enhance aviation safety by all of the other staff.

ASL .... you can easily count yourself to be among "The good guys."
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somewhat typical of avcanada being a forum where you have to watch every word you write, why people always remain anonymous (except for . and CD, good on them for that),

I am of the same opinion as Single Swine.......T.C. has far more good people than bad.

ASL in my opinion fits in the good department and he clearly understands the problem is that T.C. top management protect the incompetent and down right psychopathic members in T.C. instead of firing them...or putting them behind bars where some of them belong.

Go easy on old Trey K, he is actually one of the better people here, like me he gets unwound thinking about the few who truly @#$! up the system.

Have a good new year all you people out there. :mrgreen:

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Re: Has TC stopped publishing the Aviation Safety Letter?

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Well, first of all, I believe PMs are just that. Cutting and pasting a PM is not something I would do.
I attempted to delete my two previous posts but for some reason I could not edit the second one, which in retrospect , was really of no value, as it was reposted as part of a private message.

I have some thoughts about your last post ASL, but rather than get into a pissing match on a public forum, I will take your comments on the chin and let you have the last word....

And so we dont get lost in all this, I believe in my original post I stated that, with a couple of exceptions, I liked the ASL . That still stands.

And, as an aside, just got email notification today that the third 2014 edition is available on pdf for download.

Happy New Uear to all.
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I'll also miss the ASL, should it meet it's demise shortly. Enjoy retirement :)
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Well I got the email today that the ASL was available. Unfortunately by available TC meant:
3/2014 Please note that ASL 3/2014 has been temporarily removed and will be back soon.
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ahramin wrote:Well I got the email today that the ASL was available. Unfortunately by available TC meant:
3/2014 Please note that ASL 3/2014 has been temporarily removed and will be back soon.
I read this issue from the web site this afternoon and nothing in it seemed unusual. Lots of good info and except for the guest editorial from the TC Director of Security Theatre, which was a waste of bandwidth, well worth the read.
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ahramin wrote:Well I got the email today that the ASL was available. Unfortunately by available TC meant:
3/2014 Please note that ASL 3/2014 has been temporarily removed and will be back soon.
Indeed ahramin is correct, we quickly noticed that the "accessible" PDF posted had a problem with photos, which displayed either upside down or only partially, so we had no choice but to ask the Web team pull the links, otherwise people may print it with busted photos and would not be pleased. We fixed the PDFs, but now need to have them rendered "accessible" again before reposting on the web, and the person doing this is away until next week. But you can all access the regular pdfs at the links below:

English PDF : http://tinyurl.com/nlx7oed

French PDF: http://tinyurl.com/mnq2v2s
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