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CanJet Airlines Laying Off Pilots, Cancelling Routes

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canjet- ... -1.3031931

Bad news for CanJet:

"Canjet Airlines is laying off 47 pilots and 68 permanent and seasonal flight attendants, CBC News has learned. The cuts total more than 70 per cent of the airline's staff; CanJet currently employs about 62 pilots and 100 flight attendants.

Company president, Stephen Rowe said in an email to CBC that the job cuts are due to the fact that the airline has ceased its Europe operations because the venture "is simply not profitable."

He also warned that that there could be more bad news to come, stating: "This decision requires a further realignment of crews in early May once CanJet completes its winter vacation program."

Rowe added, "It is disappointing we have to realign our employee group today to a much smaller group."

CanJet, a subsidiary of Halifax-based IMP Group, has been plagued over the past few years by shrinking business and layoffs.

Rowe said the airline is now exploring its options and that "everything is on the table, including the evaluation of re-entering scheduled service in Canada and transborder."

CanJet's main business has been providing charter flights on behalf of Transat Holidays but last year it launched its own vacation packages."
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Re-align? Does that mean layoff? Someone should give him a thesaurus, and some business sense at the same time...
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It means the boot ! Trust me !
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Well if they lost so much money in Europe where are they putting their planes this summer? And who will fly them?
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Hopefully Sunwing will pick up the pilots to help cut the number of foreign pilots it needs this winter?

Wishful thinking?
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Well, if that isn't a bit confusing.... I've heard they lost money last summer deploying in Europe so they solved that by deploying in Europe again this summer!!!

Oh wait, they fired all the pilots, its a more lucrative to dry lease they say....

I guess he needs to "put more on the table" than he states...
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Meanwhile Sunwing is gearing up to once again hire over 100 TFW pilots from Europe next winter.

How ironic. I wonder how many Canjet pilots now feel that it was not such a good idea to follow Dan Adamus's advice in Oct 2013 and decide to look the other way when we were screaming that the FLVCs that Transport Canada provides to those Foreign pilots are issued illegally.

Guess how those 100+ TFW will be flying for Sunwing next winter while you guys collect EI or go works overseas ?

With ESDC issued LMIAs (the new term for LMO), with CIC issued Work Permits, and with TC issued FLVCs, all courtesy of this clever Conservative Government.

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How can SW hire 100 TFW if Canjet lay off 47 Canadian pilots?

This stupid law was introduced in order to fill up a gap not to be used within business model.
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They are dry leasing all but 1 aircraft this summer.
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This makes no sense! We're going to have Canjet rated guys sitting by and watching as more TFW's come into the country via the backdoor?!

Something needs to be done.
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Warning: Stay away from CJ Vacations so I have been tipped off !
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Mr. 3Green wrote:This makes no sense! We're going to have Canjet rated guys sitting by and watching as more TFW's come into the country via the backdoor?!

Something needs to be done.
The Catch 22 for these poor Canjet guys, is they have hope that they may be among the few pilots that Sunwing may hire this summer, so none of them will take the risk of protesting, filing a complaint, or raising hell, for the very justified fear of being blacklisted by Sunwing for doing so.
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I have been seeing your sh*t on here for years, kinda tiresome...CJ guys have more experience then FO jobs at a Canadian Airline. Go spin your campaign on some other thread like mismanaged aviation companies going under.
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If Canjet people want those jobs they should be given the chance before European candidates, I hope they will.
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timel wrote:If Canjet people want those jobs they should be given the chance before European candidates, I hope they will.
Agree 100%. I guess we'll see.
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Spaceshuttle wrote:I have been seeing your sh*t on here for years, kinda tiresome...CJ guys have more experience then FO jobs at a Canadian Airline. Go spin your campaign on some other thread like mismanaged aviation companies going under.
Isn't this a thread about a mismanaged aviation company going under?
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How many times has someone with the last name "Rowe" downsized/shut down an airline named CanJet? I've lost track of how many times they've started up, shut down, started up, shut down.

No doubt they'll fire up v6.0 or whatever they're up to now, sometime soon. It's as predictable as the changing of the seasons.

None of which is intended as disrespect for the actual line guys/gals, whom I've had the pleasure of working with. But IMP is such a scam, a truly Made-In-Canada robber-baron-family hot mess. Employees are disposable, always have been, yet always come back since there's not much else in YHZ/YYT.

Good luck folks. At least you're familiar with how to apply for EI.
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Spaceshuttle wrote:I have been seeing your sh*t on here for years, kinda tiresome...CJ guys have more experience then FO jobs at a Canadian Airline. Go spin your campaign on some other thread like mismanaged aviation companies going under.
I just want to say Thank you to Gilles for keeping up the fight for Canadian pilot jobs. I Thank you for all you've done and please keep going.
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Spaceshuttle wrote:I have been seeing your sh*t on here for years, kinda tiresome...CJ guys have more experience then FO jobs at a Canadian Airline. Go spin your campaign on some other thread like mismanaged aviation companies going under.
WOW, Gilles offers a valid solution to a ridiculous problem that's plaguing this industry and this is the response you give? Disgusting.
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Sunwing puts an ad for 145 pilots to be hired in Aug Sept 2015 and then sends a memo to Canjet promising that 40 Canadians will be hired then. This means that the balance of 105 pilots will all be TFW pilots.

This is illegal. How can ESDC justify letting Sunwing hire Foreigners when there are un-employed Canadian Pilots ? Canjet and others.

Then, to make matters worse, all the seasonal Captain positions will be distributed among the 105 TFW pilots. The Canadians, even the experienced Canjet Captains, will all be hired as Seasonal First Officers and get to fly with Seasonal Foreign Captains.

Then there are people here with enough gall to criticize me for stating that this is wrong ?
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Someone stated that the SW union will not allow Canadian seasonal captains.

Is this true and if so....why?
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pelmet wrote:Someone stated that the SW union will not allow Canadian seasonal captains.

Is this true and if so....why?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lqnch4e6du5ek ... 2.pdf?dl=0
6.8 Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew Members (Effective June 1, 2013)
6.8.1 General
a) The Company may have a requirement to hire Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew
Members to meet operational demands.
b) Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew Members will not be used when a full time Flight Crew
Member is on furlough.
c) After 12 months of continuous service, a Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew Member shall
become a permanent employee.
d) Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew Member shall be First Officers only.
e) The Company may offer a Seasonal Canadian Flight Crew Member a permanent
position at any time
Foreign Flight Crew Members
6.9.1 The Company may contract Foreign Flight Crew Members subject to the following
conditions:
a) Foreign Flight Crew Members will not be used when any full time Flight Crew Member
is furloughed;
b) Foreign Flight Crew Members will be subject to the scheduling rules of this Agreement;
c) The Company will endeavor not to contract more Foreign Flight Crew Member Captains
than Foreign Flight Crew Member First Officers.
The Company will have meaningful
consultation with the Union if there is a need to bring in more Foreign Flight Crew
Member Captains than Foreign Flight Crew Member First Officers. The Company will
ensure that all qualified First Officers have been upgraded if Foreign Flight Crew
Member Captains exceed Foreign Flight Crew Member First Officers.

d) Each Foreign Flight Crew Member must wear a uniform consistent with his/her status;
e) The Company will only contract a Foreign Flight Crew Member for the winter season.
As for the "Why", go ask those stupid enough to include illegal discriminatory clauses into a Collective Agreement:

http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/eng/content/what-discrimination
Discrimination is an action or a decision that treats a person or a group negatively for reasons such as their race, age or disability. These reasons are known as grounds of discrimination. Federal employers and service providers, as well as employers and service providers of private companies that are regulated by the federal government, cannot discriminate against individuals for these reasons.

These 11 grounds are protected under the Canadian Human Rights Act:

race
national or ethnic origin
colour
religion
age
sex
sexual orientation
marital status
family status
disability
a conviction for which a pardon has been granted or a record suspended.

There are several ways that a person could be discriminated against. The Canadian Human Rights Act calls these discriminatory practices. The following seven discriminatory practices are prohibited by the Canadian Human Rights Act when they are based on one or more of the 11 grounds of discrimination:

Denying someone goods, services, facilities or accommodation.
Providing someone goods, services, facilities or accommodation in a way that treats them adversely and differently.
Refusing to employ or continue to employ someone, or treating them unfairly in the workplace.
Following policies or practices that deprive people of employment opportunities.
Paying men and women differently when they are doing work of the same value.
Retaliating against a person who has filed a complaint with the Commission or against someone who has filed a complaint for them.
Harassing someone.
Federal employers are not allowed to discriminate against their employees. In fact, they are obligated to make every effort to accommodate an employee’s individual circumstances that relate to protected grounds of discrimination. We call this the duty to accommodate.

If you work for or receive services from a business or organization that is regulated by the federal government, and you believe you have experienced discrimination because of one of the 11 grounds, you can file a complaint with the Canadian Human Rights Commission.
Now how to complain:

http://www.chrc-ccdp.ca/eng/content/how ... -complaint

Will any of the Canjet Captains have the guts to file a complaint or will they all eat shit in the hope that they will be fed some stale crumbs in August or September (Right seat with a Czech or German in the left seat making triple his salary) ?
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Not trying to stir the pot..............

Did Canjet hire TFW's at one time?
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Fair comment, yes they did and it was wrong. But it was Canjet MANAGEMENT that decided to hire TFW and it is Canjet PILOTS that are out of a job today while Sunwing MANAGEMENT decides to hire TFW instead of Canjet PILOTS.

Can you make the difference or must I explain ?

All Sunwing pilots that have any decency should be on side.

Those that buy the Sunwing theory that by not hiring Canadian pilots and hiring TFW pilots instead it will fuel more Sunwing growth and allow more hiring of Canadian pilots and other employees in the long run, are either morons or dishonest.
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Shall seal it for me- I will only book vacations with airlines the have only good Canadian guys/gals up front aka AC and WJ.
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