PC12 Accident Griffith Island Ontario

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:09 pm

Just saw TSB deployed to PC12 accident at Griffith Island, On. Any news?

PilotDAR · Post by **PilotDAR** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:09 pm

I've looked, and no news to be found, I'll keep an eye with interest. Griffith Island is a nice place, but the runway has fewer than normal options....

SuperchargedRS · Post by **SuperchargedRS** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:29 pm

I'm all ears on this one

anofly · Post by **anofly** » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:32 pm

there was a caravan headed to wiarton at 4 pm from city ctr, return, it was howling wind from 220 deg gusting to 30kts

Finn47 · Post by **Finn47** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:11 am

Here´s something, but not much yet, really:

http://bnonews.com/news/index.php/news/id2677

bizjets101 · Post by **bizjets101** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:21 am

Staff, CTV Barrie
Published Friday, November 20, 2015 12:03PM EST

A plane was damaged after making a hard landing in Georgian Bay on Thursday afternoon.

Police received a report of making a hard landing on Griffith Island around 2:15 p.m.

Police say the wing of the plane, a Pilatus PC12, was damaged after it made contact with the ground during the final stages of landing.

Nobody was injured and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada is investigating.

nwopilot · Post by **nwopilot** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:51 pm

Any word on whether it was a private or commercial pc12?

Also, is that airport on the map? I am having trouble locating it

bizjets101 · Post by **bizjets101** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:46 pm

Nothing in today's CADORS - no other word at all.

Nice video landing winter time at Griffith Island's 2700' grass (snow covered) strip.

From TSB; Griffith Island is located on the southwest side of Georgian Bay near Bruce Peninsula, approximately 10 nautical miles east of Wiarton, Ontario. The island has a single grass strip runway (09/27), which is 2700 feet long and 130 feet wide, and is located on a hill on the southeast side of the island, at a field elevation of 625 feet asl. The approach to Runway 27 is over the water, and the threshold is approximately 460 feet from the waters edge

PilotDAR · Post by **PilotDAR** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:57 pm

Griffith Island runway can be found at N44 50, W80 54, at the south east corner of the island. It's a beautiful runway, very well cared for. It's PPR, so I've only been in a couple of times with the PP at the time. I used to frequent the runway at White Cloud Island, next to the west, which is rather more challenging. Griffith has the slight challenges of an over the water approach, and the the prospect of mechanical turbulence with the common prevailing north west wind, but otherwise is very inviting.

Axial Flow · Post by **Axial Flow** » Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:31 pm

Found a picture of a PC12 at Griffith Island in happier times!

SuperchargedRS · Post by **SuperchargedRS** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:43 am

Holy winglets batman!

Those don't look like /45 or /47 winglets?

rigpiggy · Post by **rigpiggy** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:03 am

jpilot77 · Post by **jpilot77** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:56 am

I believe some models of the legacy PC-12 had the "biglets". The NG has almost a raked wingtip as opposed to winglets. It's definitely not an ng.

SuperchargedRS · Post by **SuperchargedRS** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:56 pm

rigpiggy wrote:NG

I don't think so.

I look at PC12 winglets all day and those ain't any pre or post sn 684 winglets I've ever seen.

jpilot77 wrote:I believe some models of the legacy PC-12 had the "biglets". The NG has almost a raked wingtip as opposed to winglets. It's definitely not an ng.

Huh, are those biglets a pilatus option or someone else's product? Wonder if they actually make a difference vs the factory ones.

jpilot77 · Post by **jpilot77** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:12 pm

I've only flown the NG but I heard the large winglets really mad the PC-12 a handful in a crosswind. Also I heard they were a standard On some models. Just can't remember which one.

nwopilot · Post by **nwopilot** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:29 pm

Been a couple of days. There has to be some news on whether it was a private or commercial aircraft.

It must have been a pretty serious hard landing if TSB is going to investigate.

Any news?

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:31 pm

Maybe they're investigating because it's in Southern Ontario.

anofly · Post by **anofly** » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:28 pm

I have no knowledge of what may have happened but it was gusting to 30 knots at wiarton that day. 220 to 250 19 gust 31

PilotDAR · Post by **PilotDAR** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:53 am

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Darkwing Duck · Post by **Darkwing Duck** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:05 am

nwopilot wrote:Post subject: Re: PC12 Accident Griffith Island Ontario Reply with quote
Been a couple of days. There has to be some news on whether it was a private or commercial aircraft.

It must have been a pretty serious hard landing if TSB is going to investigate.

Any news?

bizjets101 wrote:Staff, CTV Barrie
Published Friday, November 20, 2015 12:03PM EST

A plane was damaged after making a hard landing in Georgian Bay on Thursday afternoon.

Police received a report of making a hard landing on Griffith Island around 2:15 p.m.

Police say the wing of the plane, a Pilatus PC12, was damaged after it made contact with the ground during the final stages of landing.

Nobody was injured and the Transportation Safety Board of Canada is investigating.

TSB Category "B" Major Aircraft Accident. - An accident resulting in substantial damage to the aircraft or serious or fatal injury to one or more persons, or substantial damage to property by the aircraft

I think this pretty much sums up why the TSB would get involved.

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:30 pm

Axial Flow wrote:Found a picture of a PC12 at Griffith Island in happier times!

This is an Air Sprint machine. I flew it once. I think it was the one based in YOW. The older PC12s had the larger winglets. Newer ones had smaller ones and the NG have the blended wing. From what I remember the reduced induced drag was offset by the high parasite drag hence newer models had smaller winglets and the NG had the blended ones.

It's been MANY years and my manuals are packed in a box somewhere so I reserve the right to be wrong.

FICU · Post by **FICU** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:18 pm

Yup, first batch of PC-12s had the larger winglets.

Oxi · Post by **Oxi** » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:45 pm

Could this be the PC12? Filed to Wiarton and continued VFR? C-GECT

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CGEC ... /CYKZ/CYVV

nwopilot · Post by **nwopilot** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:36 pm

Any updates?

pelmet · Post by **pelmet** » Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:07 pm

The Private Air Inc. Pilatus PC-12/47E aircraft (C-GECT) was landing at the grass strip on Griffith
Island. There were two pilots and four passengers on board. The approach was stable but cross
wind conditions at the island were reported to be between 25-40 knots from the south west; the
grass strip is in an east to west direction. During the flare, the right wing dropped and contacted the
ground. The aircraft continued with the landing and after stopping on the runway all occupants
exited with no injuries. During the subsequent walk around it was noticed that the outer four feet of
the right wing was bent upward and that the right aileron had been disconnected at the outer bell
crank. Two TSB investigators were dispatched to the site for evaluation of the event.