Turkey shoots down Russian fighter...

[Strobes]

Of course they are. Perfect? No. But here in the west we have freedom of the press and by and large it's something they take seriously...with some notable exceptions.

You can't seriously put western news services on the same page as the outright lies of a true propaganda mouthpiece serving a dictator. Can you?

Operation Mockingbird. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Media bias. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias

You don't have organizations like this one pop up if you have a balanced media. https://www.honestreporting.ca/

You don't have Sun News unable to find a buyer and shutting down if you have a balanced media. Because now we don't have a right-wing counterbalance.

Just last month, the CBC tried to placate a $13B shortfall on the Conservatives. Nope. Conservatives were going to run a $3B deficit, but it becomes $13B when you add the $10B in promises T2 made. Suddenly, we realize that all those promises can't be kept without big problems in the future.

Either we have manipulated journalists, rampant socialist bias in the media as a whole, or both. A balanced media does not try to portray Trump as Hitler #2. A balanced media presents facts, and it's up to us to make up our minds on whether he is or not.

[Rockie]

A balanced media does not try to portray Trump as Hitler #2. A balanced media presents facts, and it's up to us to make up our minds on whether he is or not.

Oh please, as if Trump needs help from the media. Even some Republicans are openly calling him a fascist now after his most recent pledge to ban all travel into the US by Muslims. BTW SunTV was one of the exceptions I mentioned earlier, and honestreportingCanada is not interested in unbiased press, they are an openly pro-Israeli organization focused on the reporting done on that country only. In other words a propaganda outlet....

[B208]

Our media is the result of cultural Marxism and liberal intolerance.

[Ypilot]

G'day

"Why is the West supplying weapons to any group who is not a signature to the Geneva convention?"

When did that ever stop the Russians or Chinese from doing the same thing?

Cheers...Chris

More information on how isis got weapons.

http://www.amnesty.org.uk/how-isis-isla ... mml-YF8WrU

Irresponsible arms transfers by countries including the UK, USA, Russia, China, Germany and France have provided the armed group with a huge and lethal arsenal.

For years, weapons of war have been freely flowing into Iraq. Slack controls over Iraqi military stockpiles and endemic corruption by successive Iraqi governments have added to the problem.

When Islamic State (IS) took control of these areas, these weapons were theirs for the taking. These weapons, manufactured at least 25 countries, are now in the hands of ISIS and being used to commit horrific abuses, killings, rape, torture and abduction – and forced thousands to flee their homes.

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How did this happen?
We’ve found ISIS use of arms and ammunition from at least 25 different countries – a large proportion were originally sourced by the Iraqi military from the USA, Russia and former Soviet bloc states.

The huge scope reflects decades of irresponsible arms transfers to Iraq, coupled with the failure to install oversight mechanisms during the US-led occupation after 2003.

Slack controls over military stockpiles and endemic corruption by successive Iraqi governments have added to the problem.

Among ISIS’s arsenal are portable air defence systems, guided anti-tank missiles and armoured fighting vehicles, as well as assault rifles like the Russian AK series and the US M16 and Bushmaster.

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The US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 meant the country was flooded with more weapon imports once again – but most were never secured or audited by the coalition forces or the re-formed Iraqi army. Hundreds of thousands of those weapons went missing and are still unaccounted for.

More recent efforts to rebuild and equip the Iraqi army have once again resulted in a massive arms flow into Iraq.

[PS-90A]

Please share a link to a source containing Russia's "inaccurate reporting records". You seem very certain about the accuracy of Turkish reports, or is it just your personal believes?

This has been pretty widely reported. See for example:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-12/i ... ia/6692318

I don't have any particular beliefs about Turkey. They're dumb and totalitarian, but I think they're not quite dumb enough to shoot down a Russian jet based on fabricated evidence.

Are you serious, this is your proof? Australian "coffee news"?

"Fabricated evidence"? The only real evidence we saw so far that are acceptable is what Russian forces presented during their daily (!) briefings. Meantime US is supplying from "unnamed sources" with nothing to show or actually confirm their statements.

[PS-90A]

mileagejunkie

Хорошо сделанный товарищ. Москва будет очень счастлива Вами.

Всего хорошего. Приветствия

... Крис

Сам хоть понял че сказал?

[crazyaviator]

Islam is NOT a "religion" of peace ( neither is Judaism )
Islam ( and Sharia) is NOT compatible with Canadian values and laws
Islam ( and Sharia) is not invited to Canada by most informed Canadians
In Canada, our present values system, beliefs and advancement in all levels over muslim countries and Islam makes it a no-brainer to conclude that a muslim should either stay in their own country and fix their own mess ( or allow us to assist them in their own countries) OR come to Canada and be a Canadian and forsake Islam and all its backward ways!
In muslim countries, a non-muslim is basically an infidel, terrorized, subjucated and forced to pay a tax ( under sharia)
What prevents advanced countries from maintaining their own advancements by introducing laws to prevent such erosion of our standards? Are Canadians, in general , that stupid ?

[B208]

Are Canadians, in general , that stupid ?

~40% of them voted for Trudeau, another 20% voted for Mulcair......so, yes; the majority have been made that stupid by our media and failed education system.

[Rockie]

Are Canadians, in general , that stupid ?

~40% of them voted for Trudeau, another 20% voted for Mulcair......so, yes; the majority have been made that stupid by our media and failed education system.

You guys must be loving Trump.

[B208]

You guys must be loving Trump.

The Donald is a step too far in the right direction.

I take it you like the Black Chamberlain?

[Rockie]

I take it you like the Black Chamberlain?

I don't know what that is and google wasn't any help either.

[B208]

I take it you like the Black Chamberlain?

I don't know what that is and google wasn't any help either.

I guess I credited you with a bit to much savvy. I'll give you a hint. Black is a current politico Chamberlain is an historic one.

[Rockie]

I guess I credited you with a bit to much savvy.

Well you have to cut me some slack since I don't frequent the same websites you do.

I'll give you a hint. Black is a current politico

Could you be more specific? Are you talking about a name, a reputation, a favourite colour? What?

[crazyaviator]

Obama wants to allow practically unrestricted illegal latino immigration and to legalize illegals already in the country.
The Donald wants to abide by the laws of the country and put up a fence for those who illegally cross
Obama wants to continue restricting access to guns and impliment or increase gun applications .
The Donald knows that terrorists and bad boys and girls dont fill out applications and register guns so they can go shoot up a school.
Look at how successful France was !

The Donald isnt so far right as people think , He is just voicing some wisdom and thoughts that MANY older and wiser Americans and Canadians have

[trampbike]

Should I cry or should I laugh...

[digits_]

The Donald isnt so far right as people think , He is just voicing some wisdom and thoughts that MANY older and wiser Americans and Canadians have

[Rockie]

As in our last election and what is happening down south right now, if you give voice and a veneer of credibility to some ideas it's disturbing what you learn about a shocking number of us.

[B208]

, if you give voice and a veneer of credibility to some ideas it's disturbing what you learn about a shocking number of us.

An excellent description of the last 3 decades of cultural Marxism.

Should I cry or should I laugh...

...both....

Could you be more specific? Are you talking about a name, a reputation, a favourite colour? What?

Come now, you're having difficulty coming up with the name of a current Black Politico central to this whole Syrian thing?

[Rockie]

Come now, you're having difficulty coming up with the name of a current Black Politico central to this whole Syrian thing?

I can think of one mixed race one (that must drive you bats**t crazy) but I can think of a whole lot more middle eastern ones and lots of white ones. Does being mixed race adversely effect the President of the United States' ability to deal with this problem? Would he be better at it if he were pure white like I'm guessing you are?

Edit: Here, I saved you the trouble of looking up what to think of mixed races.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_race_mixing

[Angusnofangus]

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_race_mixing[/quote]

This is some seriously racist crap.

[trampbike]

Should I cry or should I laugh...

...both....

I decided it was better to laugh at you than to cry.

[iflyforpie]

Cry for humanity.

[B208]

Come now, you're having difficulty coming up with the name of a current Black Politico central to this whole Syrian thing?

I can think of one mixed race one (that must drive you bats**t crazy) but I can think of a whole lot more middle eastern ones and lots of white ones. Does being mixed race adversely effect the President of the United States' ability to deal with this problem? Would he be better at it if he were pure white like I'm guessing you are?

Edit: Here, I saved you the trouble of looking up what to think of mixed races.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_race_mixing

Congrats, you finally figured out the reference, slow but you got there. Sadly, you missed the other, (and more salient), half. Chamberlain, the appeaser.
Nice try at trying to make this a race issue, (your cultural Marxist indoctrination is showing), but no dice. Obama's genetics make no difference to me. I didn't know he was mixed race, nor did I care.
The issue I have with Obama is that he seems hell bent on ignoring the gravest threat to western values and society in a century. He is letting dogma and idealism put the safety of his nation in grave danger. He stands a very good chance of being the West's Gorbachev.

Trump, for all his copious faults, at least understands the danger the west faces. Like I said, he is a step leap too far in the right direction; an over correction. In practical terms he should not be let anywhere near elected power, but he does serve as a balance to the mass of left crap the left wing media and academia have secrreeted over the last 30 years.

[Rockie]

You know B208, if the catch phrases you use over and over again didn't come from white supremist websites you might have kept the fact you're a racist unknown, but it looks like that kind of subterfuge is not within your skill set. Oh well.

Look mate, you're on the wrong forum...this is an aviation forum. Surely you're bright enough to find other forums more suited to your kind.

[iflyforpie]

Here, Rockie. I found one on 'cultural Marxism'.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism