CID wrote:complexintentions wrote:I just wish that instead of worrying about freedom of religion, we concentrated more on the importance of freedom FROM religion.
Good thing Canada isn't inviting tons of people with rigid religious beliefs inside her borders, of a religion that isn't particularly compatible with the ones the founders of the country had...because that could cause problems! Sure glad THAT isn't happening.

Yah good thing. Bad thing is that idiots like you bleat about things you don't have a clue about. You've bought in to the mass media bigotry and ignorance. Pathetic. You may want to read up on the secular nature of our prescribed rights and laws before you make such a near sighted comment again. You may also want to research the actions of maniacs of other religions including Christianity based faiths. Start with the Crusades. And while you're at it, look in to Abrahamic religions. You'll find that Islam isn't as far off the tenants of the old testament as you may think.
And no...I'm not Muslim, not that there would be anything wrong with that.
Yep, you're right. I have no idea about how Islam and Islamic-run states work, only having lived in one for a decade. Setting that aside, my comment was "freedom FROM religion". All of them, major ones, including Christianity, Judaism, weirdo cults, the works. Lack of rationality and critical thinking is what will destroy civilization faster than anything else. I don't give a rat's ass how close Islam or any cult is to the TENETS of any religious tome. My whole point is the sheer lunacy of continuing to hold to these outdated and irrelevant beliefs in our supposedly secular world. It might have worked when people were separated by time and distance, and there were a few billion less of us. Everyone could worship whatever Flying Spaghetti Monster they wished, to their heart's content. But it's utter folly in the current age. Christopher Hitchens, how we miss thee! And George Jonas. Such losses...
"Mass media bigotry and ignorance"? Really? If anything the media in places like Cologne and Stockholm took great pains to downplay, under-report, and just plain obfuscate the crimes that were committed in those places. Political correctness gone mad.
But it doesn't change the fact of history that Canada has strong Judeo-Christian roots, that are about to find out just how compatible they are with a competing nonsensical school of thought.
Love the trotting out of the old "Crusades" reference. You do know they ended quite some time ago, right? Along with the Inquisition and so on. And hopefully, one day Islam will evolve to the point where the radicals don't feel the need to commit horrendous acts of violence to further their own small-c crusade. But we're not there yet, not even close. Denial is the worst possible defence. But how does acknowledging the historical fact of one religion's barbaric acts justify another's? Seriously, wtf kind of twisted non-logic is that? What do the acknowledged historical crimes of Christianity have to do with today's Islamic militants? To my knowledge, there are not millions of Catholics trying to claim refugees status in Saudi Arabia lol! Try and keep points relevant.
As far as the whole "blame ISIL/Al Queda/etc/etc on the CIA, the US, the West" meme...how much rationalization does it take to absolve people of their individual responsibility? I think many are getting tired of having people who hack innocent people's heads off portrayed as victims. I know I am.
It's easy to toss around attempted insults like "bigot" when you live inside the Canadian PC bubble. Try getting out a bit more. Live in the ME for an extended time and try to hold on to your quaint multicultural views. I dare you.
I’m still waiting for my white male privilege membership card. Must have gotten lost in the mail.