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A Quebecker can put on his Bangladeshi underwear, Chinese pants, Thai shoes and Egyptian shirt; shave with his Russian razor using Italian shave cream; get in his Japanese branded Mexican built car powered by Saudi oil to drive to an airport built by a U.S. based airport construction company; board a French built aircraft that contains up to 70% parts from Germany, U.K. and Spain; to go to a Caribbean holiday destination and the Quebec government is concerned the aircraft's maintenance is done in .....Costa Rica?

This sounds more of a political stunt to me than a genuine attempt to stop outsourcing of maintenance. A make work project for lawyers. They can't seriously think it would survive a Supreme Court challenge. Perhaps that should be your story?

The biggest problem with tracking outsourced maintenance issues is lack of empirical evidence. The current system is not set up to identify and record these issues in a way that would be easy to produce figures on. Any solution to that shortcoming is likely to be very expensive.
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I'm interested in all faulty aircraft maintenance, wherever it occurs.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree. You're not interested in all "normal" maintenance that makes our commercial airline industry one of the safest in the world? You want anecdotal evidence? The very definition of alarmist journalism?

Let me cut this short for you Mr. Journalist. Aircraft on airliners, regardless of the geographical location it's performed, is not done in a regulatory vacuum. Every facility that does maintenance on Canadian registered aircraft must maintain specific ratings are are answerable to the regulator. Furthermore, EVERY airline that contracts ANY maintenance ultimately has their own inspection team that verifies the quality of the work and the airplane is not released back into service until all the work is completed to the satisfaction of the inspection team who are ultimately responsible for that work.

So....maintenance can be done on the moon for all it matters and the same group of people are still responsible for quality assurance.

Yes, there is all manner of anecdotes that will focus on exceptions and sometimes even horrific results but the location of the maintenance facility has very little bearing on the statistics.

An unfortunate quality of this industry is that people are still somewhat fascinated with flight and there is an entire culture of flight operations that fuels media reports on so many little understood aspects of the industry. Journalists try to relate every aspect of airline operations with something a bit more familiar to the average reader with often pathetic results. Airplanes are not cars. Airlines are not taxi companies. Offshoring aircraft maintenance does not equate to getting cheaper low quality goods from China.

Even when faced with overwhelming statistic evidence and technical advice, many journalists just can't let an original perception go and forge on with alarmist clap trap of the "yellow" variety. There just isn't a story here. Let it go.
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CID wrote:
I'm interested in all faulty aircraft maintenance, wherever it occurs.
I think you're barking up the wrong tree. You're not interested in all "normal" maintenance that makes our commercial airline industry one of the safest in the world? You want anecdotal evidence? The very definition of alarmist journalism?

Let me cut this short for you Mr. Journalist. Aircraft on airliners, regardless of the geographical location it's performed, is not done in a regulatory vacuum. Every facility that does maintenance on Canadian registered aircraft must maintain specific ratings are are answerable to the regulator. Furthermore, EVERY airline that contracts ANY maintenance ultimately has their own inspection team that verifies the quality of the work and the airplane is not released back into service until all the work is completed to the satisfaction of the inspection team who are ultimately responsible for that work.

So....maintenance can be done on the moon for all it matters and the same group of people are still responsible for quality assurance.

Yes, there is all manner of anecdotes that will focus on exceptions and sometimes even horrific results but the location of the maintenance facility has very little bearing on the statistics.

An unfortunate quality of this industry is that people are still somewhat fascinated with flight and there is an entire culture of flight operations that fuels media reports on so many little understood aspects of the industry. Journalists try to relate every aspect of airline operations with something a bit more familiar to the average reader with often pathetic results. Airplanes are not cars. Airlines are not taxi companies. Offshoring aircraft maintenance does not equate to getting cheaper low quality goods from China.

Even when faced with overwhelming statistic evidence and technical advice, many journalists just can't let an original perception go and forge on with alarmist clap trap of the "yellow" variety. There just isn't a story here. Let it go.
Those are some pretty broad statements. Do you have first hand knowledge of how maintenance on canadian aircraft is performed in foreign repair stations? Do you believe that Transport Canada regularly dispatches teams to these stations to inspect and verify their abilities, or do they rely on the carrier to police themselves? Do you think that carriers employ large teams of inspectors at these stations to inspect the quality of every job, or do they typically rely on a single individual "rep" to oversee thousands of man hours of work and huge volumes of paper?
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Those are some pretty broad statements. Do you have first hand knowledge of how maintenance on canadian aircraft is performed in foreign repair stations? Do you believe that Transport Canada regularly dispatches teams to these stations to inspect and verify their abilities, or do they rely on the carrier to police themselves? Do you think that carriers employ large teams of inspectors at these stations to inspect the quality of every job, or do they typically rely on a single individual "rep" to oversee thousands of man hours of work and huge volumes of paper?
The point was to not blather on about the infinite details to help this journalist discover a problem that doesn't exist. I'm well aware of the process and the real world activities involved. I see you have your own little buzzwords and alarmism regarding maintenance at foreign repair stations and I think further discussion will just fuel your agenda.

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This is about as ridiculous, as reporters who scour the "reporting system" (don't want to give another one any hints) looking for stories about so called aviation safety mishaps.
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CANADIAN PILOTS AND AMEs WILFULLY BLIND TO OBVIOUS SAFETY DEFICIENCIES IN OVERSEAS MAINTENANCE

Toronto, Canada

Experienced pilots and aircraft maintenance engineers today revealed themselves to be entirely unwilling to help sell newspapers, er, that is, improve the maintenance operations of some of this country's most well known airlines. When questioned, sources who refused to be named declared any enquiries into the obvious deficiencies of having Johnny Foreigner service Canadian aircraft to be no more than "blather" about "infinite details". When asked at least a dozen leading questions by one of this country's ace newspaper investigative journalists, the same source declared them to be alarmist claptrap - continued on page 7
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DId you hear the one about the jurisprudence fetishist? He got off on a technicality.
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Dear Journalist,

If you want someone to help you sell newspapers and make money, why don't you take out some ads on the site?
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For those who are interested unless there are two by the same name here are a couple of links to his more recent articles.

Jonathan Yazer: Revitalize Atlantic Canada: It's now or never

news.nationalpost.com/.../jonathan-yazer-revitalize-atlantic-canada-its-no...

Jonathan Yazer, National Post | September 17, 2015 5:45 PM ET ...
Cape Bretoners deserve a better, bolder plan for future ...
http://www.capebretonpost.com/Opinion/C ... ticle.../1

Nov 15, 2015 - Jonathan Yazer grew up in Sydney, where he graduated from Sydney Academy in ... A well written article, but I would like to add a perspective.
Is Atlantic Canada past due for a 21st century SEZ ...

http://www.capebretonpost.com/Opinion/C ... ticle.../1



Nov 23, 2015 - Former Sydney resident Jonathan Yazer's recent column ('Cape Bretoners ... His article advances the notion of establishing a SEZ or Special ...
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Well, I, for one, am very glad that 'my' Mx is done in-house in Canada, by guys I know by name, who I go out for drinks with occasionally, who know that I'm married with a family...
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