LTD wrote:This news might already be known by some, if not most of you, but just got news that the plan is still to hire 160-180 new hires by July 2016. Three ground schools with 20 pilots each are planned but the end of 2015 (some maybe already underway). The rest in the new year...
Looking pretty good if you ask me.
Good luck to all of you.
Assuming the application window opens in January for courses in Feb 2016 then 160 pilots in 5 months = 30pilots/ month,
not sure on how the flow will come into play here so I guess 20% of 160 = 32 pilots from OTS in 5 months = about 6/ month
bruced007 wrote:
Assuming the application window opens in January for courses in Feb 2016 then 160 pilots in 5 months = 30pilots/ month,
not sure on how the flow will come into play here so I guess 20% of 160 = 32 pilots from OTS in 5 months = about 6/ month
80% from Jazz.
Seems lately there are an additional 2 per course from Georgian and 2 from Skyregional. Not sure how many OTS spots that leaves available in the 20%.
Skyregional has announced internally that it is hiring 108 pilots for just 5 additional aircraft. That may imply anticipated attrition of 40+ pilots over the next 6-8 months. That certainly matches up with 2 spots per course at AC.
bruced007 wrote:
Assuming the application window opens in January for courses in Feb 2016 then 160 pilots in 5 months = 30pilots/ month,
not sure on how the flow will come into play here so I guess 20% of 160 = 32 pilots from OTS in 5 months = about 6/ month
80% from Jazz.
Seems lately there are an additional 2 per course from Georgian and 2 from Skyregional. Not sure how many OTS spots that leaves available in the 20%.
Skyregional has announced internally that it is hiring 108 pilots for just 5 additional aircraft. That may imply anticipated attrition of 40+ pilots over the next 6-8 months. That certainly matches up with 2 spots per course at AC.
If you're right, it means 0% out of the pool (OTS)
bruced007 wrote:
Assuming the application window opens in January for courses in Feb 2016 then 160 pilots in 5 months = 30pilots/ month,
not sure on how the flow will come into play here so I guess 20% of 160 = 32 pilots from OTS in 5 months = about 6/ month
80% from Jazz.
Seems lately there are an additional 2 per course from Georgian and 2 from Skyregional. Not sure how many OTS spots that leaves available in the 20%.
Skyregional has announced internally that it is hiring 108 pilots for just 5 additional aircraft. That may imply anticipated attrition of 40+ pilots over the next 6-8 months. That certainly matches up with 2 spots per course at AC.
If you're right, it means 0% out of the pool (OTS)
So virtually no new hires just 160 pilots as per flow through
Some of us from the old pool are still waiting for a call, I'm not sure how many remain but I can't imagine the list is that long now. Everything seems pretty status quo though, sky and Georgian do continue to take up a couple OTS spots on average each course, but non express guys are still trickling in as well. From what I've heard it seems to be pretty close to 80% Jazz, 10% other express and 10% other carriers getting hired.
I'm not sure if that's on purpose or just the way it's worked out lately. Lots of hiring these days so hopefully in the coming months we can put this all behind us!
Would you care to bring more info about this plz ?
That was a rough number. There have been 8 or so non-express pilots hired in the last 4 classes of roughly 20 pilots each. I have heard there are non-express pilots in Jan and Feb courses too but I'm not sure how many.
I'm curious, does there have to be a posting online to be able to get a call for an interview? Or can one simply submit their resume and then wait by the phone?
Jimmybuffet wrote:I'm curious, does there have to be a posting online to be able to get a call for an interview? Or can one simply submit their resume and then wait by the phone?
The application on their site hasn't been available for some time now, so no, you can't apply. I think those getting calls from the non ac-express airlines are those that have been sitting in the pool for the last couple of years, who interviewed before the PML agreement(s) came to be.
Actually, on the careers website, there's a red button "Submit your resume".... through it, there is a selection for the position being applied for. What I'm wondering is, will someone see the submission and make a call, or will it just sit there until they put a job posting up, and then they will look at it? If not, once the OTS pool dries up, then what?
I have seen that "submit your resume" a few days back, from what i know about this giant guys just take up a lot of fuel and enter the hold as high as you can wait for the call without an EAT.
Anticyclone wrote:I have seen that "submit your resume" a few days back, from what i know about this giant guys just take up a lot of fuel and enter the hold as high as you can wait for the call without an EAT.
Ski_bum, how do you figure this will exhaust the Jazz PML?
80% of 280 is 224, the minimum is 495 offers of employment, so far about 100 have been hired leaving a minimum of 400 to go. Some will take the buy out but I don't think that will be as high a number as you think. Even if AC hires 280 in 2017, this might not finish the list, sorry to burst your bubble.
mbav8r wrote:Ski_bum, how do you figure this will exhaust the Jazz PML?
80% of 280 is 224, the minimum is 495 offers of employment, so far about 100 have been hired leaving a minimum of 400 to go. Some will take the buy out but I don't think that will be as high a number as you think. Even if AC hires 280 in 2017, this might not finish the list, sorry to burst your bubble.
As of October: 100 hired, 131 offered and deferring and another 14 declined. So I don't think it is 400 to go... more like 250ish minimum. AC only made a commitment to make a minimum of 495 offers.
Once the Jazz PML obligation has been exhausted another incarnation incorporating all express brand carriers will be implemented. What will be interesting to see is how it will be divided up. Of course there will be no pay protections as with the current Jazz PML.
As of last nights equipment bid there are 321 vacancies system wide. Mostly YYZ. Best of luck getting the nod. As an aside, I've heard anecdotal evidence of several PFO's being handed out to PML applicants. Obviously difficult to verify. The PML guys I've worked with here have been solid guys and a great addiction to the ranks.
Once the Jazz PML obligation has been exhausted another incarnation incorporating all express brand carriers will be implemented. What will be interesting to see is how it will be divided up. Of course there will be no pay protections as with the current Jazz PML.
The incarnation is supposed to look like this once jazz pml exhausted - I just put in some numbers blindly to play around with things don't take the numbers seriously. So if AC hires 200 per year (that could be high) > here are wait times for interviews regionalers. I considered attrition rates as well. I didn't include OTS but I'm sure AC will always have a degree of freedom unknown to most of us for ex-military and high TT-typed rated folks.
OT - Is candidate age a serious consideration in AC hiring process? Lots of overseas jobs have age restrictions under 45, 50, etc..at time of hiring or the medical is the be all end all.
Our union just stated that the current projections will see the PML exhausted by the end of 2017 to early 2018, so I guess my guess was pretty well bang on, feel free to continue speculating but I'll go with the ones who have the inside scoop
