Question I have, Is there anyone else who has this issue / have gone through and gotten Ear Tube surgery done? If you don't feel like posting on this thread, please PM me. I need advice. I have a few months to decide what to do but ulimatley it sounds like if I don't get this procedure done, my future in aviation might be limited.
Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
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IWANTTOFLYYIN
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Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
So a few years ago I started having troubles with my Ears on descent. My ears aren't pressurizing normally and I physically have to do the "Valsava maneuver" a bunch of times on descent to constantly equalize the pressure. When I started flight training, all the way through my PPL and night rating I never had any issues with it (So I wasn't born this way). I was able to equalize them just by swallowing or yawning like "normal people" do. Anyways, I went and seen an ENT (Ear, Nose Throat) doctor today and he said I need to get special grommets or "Ear Tubes" placed in my ear drums to literally have equal pressure in the middle ear 24/7 (Hence no more need to do it manually by myself.) Problem is these tubes fall out on their own after about a year so it's an ongoing issue still.
Question I have, Is there anyone else who has this issue / have gone through and gotten Ear Tube surgery done? If you don't feel like posting on this thread, please PM me. I need advice. I have a few months to decide what to do but ulimatley it sounds like if I don't get this procedure done, my future in aviation might be limited.
Sorry for the long story.
Question I have, Is there anyone else who has this issue / have gone through and gotten Ear Tube surgery done? If you don't feel like posting on this thread, please PM me. I need advice. I have a few months to decide what to do but ulimatley it sounds like if I don't get this procedure done, my future in aviation might be limited.
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Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
Edited- gave some bad advice!
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Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
I'd go through the gambit of other options first. Allergies? You could try dosing on benadryl or the like to see if antihistamines work. Try them on terra firma to see effects (obviously first), then try em flying maybe you have environmental factors you aren't aware of. Cat, dog, jet fuel smoke, new carpet, captain's hure lure etc. Do you get ear infections? I do. More on the left side. Doctor Adams recommended cleaning with hydrogen peroxide and a q tip which helped tonnes. There's nothing wrong with having to valsalva, the problem is in the climb if they won't equalize. Last idea, have you put on weight eating commissary? Those snack packs sure are good. I got fitted for custom ear protection recently and the fitter said gains or losses of 20 lbs mean I need to get refit.
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Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
I disagree - you might have had something like this done when you were a kid (or that might be just what you were told so you wouldn't be scared), but having a hole punctured in your eardrum is exactly what is done. I had a similar discussion with my doctor a number of years back when I had a long time when it seemed like my ears were always suffering congestion. I had heard of "having tubes in your ears" from when I was a kid (never had it myself, just heard of friends having it) and asked the doc about it as an option - I thought that like Meatservo said, it was tubes put in the existing ear canals to keep them open. Nope - my doc (CAME) informed me that a hole would be punched in the eardrum itself and the grommet inserted to keep the hole from healing over. The grommet keeps the hole open so the fluid (congestion) that sits behind the eardrum will drain rather than sit back there and get infected.Meatservo wrote:...They aren't in your actual ear drum, they are inserted into the eustachian canal between your inner ear and your throat...Don't worry, they don't perforate your ear-drum....
It sounded rather risky to me, so I stuck it out and eventually the congestion cleared up on its own.
Unless you are experiencing pain that affects safety, don't rush into those tubes! See if there are any allergens that you can be tested for that exist in your present environment. Thankfully, more places post scent-free signs, and I think I finally talked my FBO into ditching the horrid plug-in air fresheners - I used to have to hang out on the often cold hangar floor because the scented FBO lounge would affect me so badly that I ended up clearing my throat during half of my radio calls.
There could be a number of environmental factors that are doing this to you...
(and having to do the valsalva manoeuvre on descent isn't the end of the world)
Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
Big ones to try are giving up smoking, drinking, and dairy products. I realize none of those things are easy to do. Give it an honest try for a few weeks for each and you might have good results.
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NO, I had tubes in the eustachian canals-I don't have holes in my eardrums, I have to do the valsalva technique during descents like everyone else- But I didn't know about the ones you are talking about. Based on that, I am going to erase my earlier post- looks like I gave some bad advice! I would definitely think twice about the surgery you are talking about!HiFlyChick wrote:I disagree - you might have had something like this done when you were a kid (or that might be just what you were told so you wouldn't be scared), but having a hole punctured in your eardrum is exactly what is done. I had a similar discussion with my doctor a number of years back when I had a long time when it seemed like my ears were always suffering congestion. I had heard of "having tubes in your ears" from when I was a kid (never had it myself, just heard of friends having it) and asked the doc about it as an option - I thought that like Meatservo said, it was tubes put in the existing ear canals to keep them open. Nope - my doc (CAME) informed me that a hole would be punched in the eardrum itself and the grommet inserted to keep the hole from healing over. The grommet keeps the hole open so the fluid (congestion) that sits behind the eardrum will drain rather than sit back there and get infected.Meatservo wrote:...They aren't in your actual ear drum, they are inserted into the eustachian canal between your inner ear and your throat...Don't worry, they don't perforate your ear-drum....
It sounded rather risky to me, so I stuck it out and eventually the congestion cleared up on its own.
Unless you are experiencing pain that affects safety, don't rush into those tubes! See if there are any allergens that you can be tested for that exist in your present environment. Thankfully, more places post scent-free signs, and I think I finally talked my FBO into ditching the horrid plug-in air fresheners - I used to have to hang out on the often cold hangar floor because the scented FBO lounge would affect me so badly that I ended up clearing my throat during half of my radio calls.
There could be a number of environmental factors that are doing this to you...
(and having to do the valsalva manoeuvre on descent isn't the end of the world)
But I will stand by one thing I said- Take everything here with a grain of salt. Better to trust your doctor- but make sure he or she knows you're a pilot, you don't want to do anything that jeopardizes your medical if you don't have to.
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Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
The funny thing is that Valsalva is not the best maneuver to equalize the pressure. More details here:
https://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medi ... toEars.pdf
https://www.diversalertnetwork.org/medi ... toEars.pdf
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IWANTTOFLYYIN
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Re: Can anyone else on here relate? Ear Troubles
Yea I'm gonna cut out all booz for a while. I've been taking antihistamines, nasal steroids sprays, and antibiotics, and I don't smoke so that's a plus. The problem is, I can do the valsava or the other mentioned techniques above, but my ears will close up shortly after again, within like literally 15 seconds, so hence why I should perhaps go for the tube surgery :s I spoke with a few Aviation doc's in the area and none of them are against the idea as it cancels out the need to equalize pressure so the ear drum doesn't pull in or rupture when unable to equalize properly. Any other pilots who have had this done, please PM me. Thanks so much for the replies!
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I had this same problem as a child. Actually had tubes put in twice and then when I was about 16 I had my tonsils and adenoids removed and voila, all ear problems went away.
My Eustachian tubes had been blocked off the whole time by my tonsils or adenoids. After removal the Eustachian tubes could do their job and have never had problems since.
My Eustachian tubes had been blocked off the whole time by my tonsils or adenoids. After removal the Eustachian tubes could do their job and have never had problems since.


