Typical Air Canada attitude

[cgzro]

I'd like to see what the Canadian military per diem and hotel expense limits are for a colonel in London. I doubt its 200 pounds a night. For sure if I produced a bill like that for a nights stay in London my company would refuse to pay it.

Anyway typical media BS. I love the bit about how shocking it is that premium travellers get better accommodation. The media should write about how much taxpayer money was wasted by the Canadian government in Paris for the COP21, rather than complaining about how a private company carefully controls its spending.

[Rockie]

The military pays treasury board rates if I recall correctly, and their daily meal and incidental rate alone (no accommodation) for London as of January 1st is 113.78 pounds.

On the government website employees can also search accommodations pretty much everywhere and the ones for London range from 113-195 pounds per night.

[True North]

Actually, I have no personal agenda against AC ,

Really?

in fact I have not use them in years...

However , I am merely pointing out that from what I read and what I hear...

Then you really aren't in any position to comment, are you.

Phfftt !
Really? you think I am the exception and that the majority of people on this planet don"t look for the best price in anything they are paying for ? Im just an average snapshot of the customers that are out there that are trying to budget their money and spend a little as they can . Thats not a crime and its certainly not something to insult people about.
You must be one of those rich guys that haggles up when paying for something. Must be nice to say to the car salesman " 25k ? thats too good a bargin I'll give you 30k"
I;ll bet your a typical Union man that wants the employer to pay top dollar and makes them price themselves out of a market to pay you . Then you bitch like you are when the average Joe goes looking for a better deal.

The problem with you "average Joes" is you want something for nothing. You think air fare should be cheaper than taking the bus and guess what? Sometimes it is. When you look at the base air fare and remove all the taxes and fees that the government and airport authorities are stealing, and compare it to a bus fare on the same route the air fare is often cheaper. As someone else pointed out, air fares adjusted for inflation are somewhere around where they were in the mid-nineties. I think maybe even further back.

But back to the topic at hand. This gentleman volunteered to stay over an extra day. Did Air Canada offer to cover all his expenses for the stay? In my experience they don't initially. They are hoping to find someone who will just go home and come back the next day. If they don't find that they start to escalate the offer. I didn't see any mention of an offer to cover all expenses. The situation may not have been handled as well as it could have but I smell a sense of entitlement. At the very least, someone who did not ask the right questions and made assumptions.

I have flown on Air Canada quite a few times in the last couple of years and found the overall experience to be excellent. There was a time, maybe 10-15 years ago, when they had a Crown Corporation attitude but those days are long gone.

For some reason, bashing Air Canada is still a national pastime but it's dated. Get over it.

[complexintentions]

I have flown on Air Canada quite a few times in the last couple of years and found the overall experience to be excellent. There was a time, maybe 10-15 years ago, when they had a Crown Corporation attitude but those days are long gone.

For some reason, bashing Air Canada is still a national pastime but it's dated. Get over it.

Exactly. When I hear some person droning on about how bad the service is on AC, I just assume they're the same sort - you know the type - who believe that phrases like "Wassuppp" or "Fo'shizzle" are currently in vogue.

Dated.

Whether it's due to the Canadian proclivity for complaining, or too lazy to come up with an original opinion, I'm not sure.

That isn't to say that AC or WS don't have some bad days, but people need to move on from a couple decades ago, things do change.

[Meatservo]

Basically Canada is a country run by a handful of families with names like Asper, Thomson, Rowe, Irving and so on. Founded by robber barons and the mentality lives on. Fake competitiveness (*gasp* Should I pick Telus or Bell? Air Canada or WestJet? TD or RBC?) but in the end no choice and everyone lulled to sleep by US media. Quick, take a selfie and check your FB feed and STFU.

I think that's what he was referring to. Not exactly a bastion of free enterprise or innovation, Canada. As the current commodities rout is exposing nicely.

Thanks for the explanation guys. I avoid US media, don't take "selfies" and don't waste a lot of time looking at "face book", but nevertheless I think I might be one of those people who don't understand much about this stuff. Politically speaking, I am one of those people who goes to work when it's required, gets my paycheque, pursues my hobbies, visits my relatives, and don't spend a lot of time fretting over what the robber barons are doing. Maybe I ought to. I actually feel a little ignorant right now. Thanks a lot.

I have travelled on a lot of airlines, Canadian Pacific back in the day, then Canadian, Pacific Western, Air Canada, West Jet, various US and European airlines, and I must say I haven't noticed a lot of differences between any of them. The only thing I've really noticed is the seats getting closer together... they seem to have calculated the absolute minimum personal space necessary to provide a human being before the confinement starts to affect his mental health- and then the guy in front of you puts his seat back!

Maybe my wilful ignorance extends to airline service too. I've never really had a problem with any of them. Except some of the ones I've worked for.

[Confliction]

Pretty shabby I agree, and very poorly handled from the airport staff to the CEO's office and back again, but "typical"? I don't think so. It's clear you have a bug up your butt when it comes to AC fleet16, so much so you had to start a second thread on this in the Air Canada forum.

Also agree the article was too over the top with the military honour thing. Being military doesn't bestow honour all by itself.

That's pretty much it. Handled poorly by AC but not typical, and pushed along by a biased article.

[Rookie50]

Basically Canada is a country run by a handful of families with names like Asper, Thomson, Rowe, Irving and so on. Founded by robber barons and the mentality lives on. Fake competitiveness (*gasp* Should I pick Telus or Bell? Air Canada or WestJet? TD or RBC?) but in the end no choice and everyone lulled to sleep by US media. Quick, take a selfie and check your FB feed and STFU.

I think that's what he was referring to. Not exactly a bastion of free enterprise or innovation, Canada. As the current commodities rout is exposing nicely.

Thanks for the explanation guys. I avoid US media, don't take "selfies" and don't waste a lot of time looking at "face book", but nevertheless I think I might be one of those people who don't understand much about this stuff. Politically speaking, I am one of those people who goes to work when it's required, gets my paycheque, pursues my hobbies, visits my relatives, and don't spend a lot of time fretting over what the robber barons are doing. Maybe I ought to. I actually feel a little ignorant right now. Thanks a lot.

I have travelled on a lot of airlines, Canadian Pacific back in the day, then Canadian, Pacific Western, Air Canada, West Jet, various US and European airlines, and I must say I haven't noticed a lot of differences between any of them. The only thing I've really noticed is the seats getting closer together... they seem to have calculated the absolute minimum personal space necessary to provide a human being before the confinement starts to affect his mental health- and then the guy in front of you puts his seat back!

Maybe my wilful ignorance extends to airline service too. I've never really had a problem with any of them. Except some of the ones I've worked for.

Air canada for me, and mostly the others too, has been fine, BTW. Air Canada is quite good, for the most part. Very few complaints in 25 odd years in flying them.

Except the seating. It's the Ryanair model and everyone is on it now, they are all busses to me. It's so bad to get better seats, horrible service would be almost be fine in every other respect.