Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
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Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Just doing some basic research here and got wondering, is a single engine IFR rating pretty much useless?(I don't mean literally useless, but is it even worth getting if funds are limited at the moment and can't swing a MIFR)?
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Nope. Lots of PC-12s and Vans out there. Get a year or two in and upgrade when it's time to move.
Yes, a single might be limiting.... but not doing anything will limit you more.
Yes, a single might be limiting.... but not doing anything will limit you more.
Geez did I say that....? Or just think it....?
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
I take it the context is getting a job?
In any case, it's very little work to get a Group 1 if you already have the Group 3.
In any case, it's very little work to get a Group 1 if you already have the Group 3.
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Ya the end result would be getting a job.
I'm just working out a game plan at the moment and doing a little research on the best way to go about it Given the current financial commitment and restraints.
I'm just working out a game plan at the moment and doing a little research on the best way to go about it Given the current financial commitment and restraints.
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
I'm making good money and working a good sched right now flying single pilot and single engine IFR.
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Take some time to read which items have to be done in the same Group, as far as your pre-IFR flights go. I'm not entirely sure (integrated programs are weird), but I believe a lot of the initial IFR training can be done in a single, and then you could switch to a multi for the remainder. That way you could save money by flying a less expensive plane while you're just learning the basics, and then spend money for the twin for the things you need to learn in a twin.Highflyinpilot wrote:... Given the current financial commitment and restraints.
But, as iflyforpie said, there are plenty of singles out there flying IFR. You're limiting your job potentials to basically those and VFRs, and considering how much IFR flying there is in my particular neck of the woods, I'd say having some sort of IFR is better than not (maybe not Group 4 if you're looking for fixed wing jobs, though )
As far as usefullness, I'd rate Group 1 as most useful, followed by Group 3, and then multi.
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
If you're going to spend the money, you may as well get a Group 1. I've never met anyone who regretted the group one, but I have met a couple who regret not getting a multi rating, and by extension a group 1 rating.
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
One can learn to center a needle, and do procedure turns at 150 bucks an hour in a 172, vs 300 in a seminole.
That said when you get it done, save some dough, and get the twin done too.
That said when you get it done, save some dough, and get the twin done too.
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Not useless if you're looking for a caravan or pc12 job (or a small piston Ifr job if you can find one) however in my opinion given the ratio of single engine Ifr work vs multi Ifr work out there (job wise)...Makes more sense to wait and get group 1. Many pc12 and caravan operators also have other aircraft that are multi turbine to move up to but you won't be able to if you don't have the group 1.
I'm making many assumptions here without context so forgive me if this is completely useless
I'm making many assumptions here without context so forgive me if this is completely useless
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
It is useful but it is expensive to keep it current
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Here is some food for thought. If you hold a multi rating, and a single IFR, when you do a PPC on a multi it then becomes a group one.
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
[quote="Adam Oke"]Here is some food for thought. If you hold a multi rating, and a single IFR, when you do a PPC on a multi it then becomes a group one.[/quote]
Really? That I did not know!
Edit: my response sounds sarcastic, but it's not, I truly didn't know that!!
Really? That I did not know!
Edit: my response sounds sarcastic, but it's not, I truly didn't know that!!
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
The trick is getting hired with a group 3, when there are many fish in the sea with a group 1.Highflyinpilot wrote:Really? That I did not know!Adam Oke wrote:Here is some food for thought. If you hold a multi rating, and a single IFR, when you do a PPC on a multi it then becomes a group one.
Edit: my response sounds sarcastic, but it's not, I truly didn't know that!!
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Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
I did my single IFR first and was happy I did, Later when I doing my Multi and flying around paying $6 a minute I was grateful I had done it before when it was cheaper.
Re: Is a single engine ifr rating useless?
Not really. You can let it lapse and then just do an IPC whenever you want to reactivate it. Cost is around $400 to do it in a Redbird if you don't need any remedial training.cbty wrote:It is useful but it is expensive to keep it current