Who does not plan to fly safely?

[trey kule]

Ok. I am an old pilot, and , by definition, deaf, senile and cranky.
I have become used to the media inspired hype of declaring this or that plane "down"
Adds excitement to the post, I suppose.

But telling everyone to"fly safe". Really?
Are there pilots out there who don't plan to fly safely?
Do They need reminding? And, if so, will reminding them make an iota of difference?

Quite frankly, I am tired of reading about an accident or incident where someone posts how they would do it differently, I suppose to help us all learn from their wisdom, and they add. "Fly safe"

But, I am trying to learn and keep up with the new generation (s). I saw a discussion about HIV the other day. Not one person told anyone to "F....... Safe". Save more lives than all the aircraft accidents in the world every year, and us poor taxpayers zillions of dollars taking care of the foolish.

So, are there pilots out there who do not plan to fly safely and need the gentle reminder of their betters?

Oh wait, coffee just arrived....rant over

[PositiveRate27]

Ok. I am an old pilot, and , by definition, deaf, senile and cranky.
I have become used to the media inspired hype of declaring this or that plane "down"
Adds excitement to the post, I suppose.

But telling everyone to"fly safe". Really?
Are there pilots out there who don't plan to fly safely?
Do They need reminding? And, if so, will reminding them make an iota of difference?

Quite frankly, I am tired of reading about an accident or incident where someone posts how they would do it differently, I suppose to help us all learn from their wisdom, and they add. "Fly safe"

But, I am trying to learn and keep up with the new generation (s). I saw a discussion about HIV the other day. Not one person told anyone to "F....... Safe". Save more lives than all the aircraft accidents in the world every year, and us poor taxpayers zillions of dollars taking care of the foolish.

So, are there pilots out there who do not plan to fly safely and need the gentle reminder of their betters?

Oh wait, coffee just arrived....rant over

You need a vacation dude.

[ahramin]

Actually, "Safe Sex" is a meme often seen during any discussion of anything that can go wrong with sex. Also I've been known to make observations to people from time to time when driving conditions warrant that perhaps tonight is not the best night to drive home and they are welcome to go in the morning. The other day though we were at dinner with friends and on a perfectly normal dry evening our host said "Be Safe Guys" and "Drive Safe" at least five times as we were leaving. I don't think this is confined to aviation.

And as for "Fly Safe" I agree, useless thing to say other than I guess it makes people feel good to say it.

[trey kule]

I think you are right. I know I felt much better after posting telling Positive Rate to fly safe.

[switchflicker]

Are you also offended when a friend advises you to 'Take Care' as his or her parting words?

People don't fly in to see me, but when I get a visitor, it's always after a longish drive on the highway. When they leave, they are faced with a similar drive, and I always say 'Drive Carefully' as part of my goodbye.

No one has ever, up to now, told me that I'm being a dickhead for wishing them a safe journey. Maybe my guests are just shy folks.

[CpnCrunch]

Every time I fly my wife tells me "don't crash". I think she's more worried about the idiots on the highway on the drive to the airport than the flying itself.

Regarding the "fly/drive safe" saying: perhaps it puts a little seed into people's minds, so that if they are considering something risky, they might think again. Nobody plans to drive/fly dangerously, but a lot of people do risky things like speeding, texting while driving, taking off with minimum fuel, ignoring checklists, etc. Perhaps it would be better to say "don't do anything f*in stupid while flying/driving home".

[NickyNick]

Depends on what safe/unsafe means to you. We do 25kt tailwind takeoffs to save from having to backtrack, closed gate approaches when weather at minimums. My boss says get the job done anyway you want and never tell me how you did it.

[shimmydampner]

I suppose "fly safe" (while just a generally accepted, more modern version of well-wishes such as "godspeed") is equally as useful as writing an anonymous, strongly worded internet post about how ineffectual it is to say "fly safe." However, if you say "fly safe" or "drive safe" or "safe trip" or something similarly well-intentioned, you run a much lower risk of people thinking you're a miserable old fart with too much time on your hands.

[schnitzel2k3]

Take care = fly safe. It's not an order as it is more of a hopeful gesture. Not much different than 'eh' or 'right' to finish off a thought.

S.

[North Shore]

I'd like to think that there is no-one out there who doesn't plan to 'fly safely'. But, there are numerous examples of people opting to go when safety issues crop up - the whole 'Normalization of Deviance' phenomenon is a testament to that..

[MrWings]

Fly safely means ...

... don't get complacent
... don't cut corners
... don't push it

When flying becomes routine, these factors creep in and cause many accidents. Saying 'fly safely' is a reminder to stay on your toes.

[niss]

So, are there pilots out there who do not plan to fly safely and need the gentle reminder of their betters?

That's why I end every conversation with a hearty "go @#$! yourself".

The dude abides.

[PilotDAR]

I feel very relaxed wishing a person a safe flight or drive, which is not to suggest that they might not execute the fly/drive safely, but rather my hope that all the other factors will be most safe for them.

Personally, I might fly very safely, or with consideration, less safely, but with mitigation. I have been trained to execute a safety review of flights which are other than mundane, and that review will remind me of any appropriate safety precautions. When my wife smiles, hugs me and says to fly safely, I enjoy the smile and hug, and accept the nice meaning she intends.

I find that being called "dude" is casual to excess. A classmate of my 12 year old daughter referred to me as "dude" recently. That fellow will receive a more favourable reaction from me next time, if he chooses a more formal greeting to me. "Sir" is not required, but my name would be agreeable to me.

[CreatingLift]

Fly safely means ...

... don't get complacent
... don't cut corners
... don't push it

When flying becomes routine, these factors creep in and cause many accidents. Saying 'fly safely' is a reminder to stay on your toes.

+1

[telex]

Are there pilots out there who don't plan to fly safely?
Do They need reminding? And, if so, will reminding them make an iota of difference?

Well trained and highly qualified people do stupid things in airplanes every day. "Fly safe" rolls off the tongue easier than "don't be stupid and reckless today and kill a bunch of people due to your irresponsible actions".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjFIB1L3BPU

[Heliian]

Honestly, One expression I do not appreciate is " ho ho ho merry christmas or just merry christmas Thoughts of an old obese horny man with little children on his "lap" is a turn off,,, also saying the nabove mantra actually means Ha ha ha Happy tortured death to christ . Who said christians were intelligent?

Well, that's like, you're opinion, man.

SAFE TRAVELS EVERYBODY!

[Gannet167]

So, are there pilots out there who do not plan to fly safely?

Yes there are. They are the reason the flag flying over parliament hill doesn't have a hammer and a sickle. Quite a bit of what they do could not be reasonably considered "safe."

You need a vacation dude.

+1

If you're taking offense to someone expressing a friendly sentiment intended to show thoughtful care as you embark into the great blue yonder and savor the magic of flight, you may need more fiber in your diet. If you find it rude to use a commonly accepted moniker in casual conversation, I believe you do indeed need a vacation, dude.

I am contemplating a rant on how rude it is to call someone "dude".

It's not rude. It's a colloquial and commonly used mainstream term, generally referring to another individual in a friendly and casual manner. Much like saying "hey man," or "hello friend!" or "hey buddy" or "what's up pal?" one can say "dude." I work with a New Zealander who will sometimes say "cheers mate," although I'm quite sure he doesn't intend to ever "mate" with me, I try to not take offense to his well meaning friendliness.

You're lamenting the neo-liberal "nowadays" ways with your comment about "hey person" but yet, the sensitivity to a sensible and reasonable, friendly salutation and a commonly used term sound more like the agenda touting eco-feminist-lefties intently looking to manufacture their own resentment from perceived injustice rather than an old pilot.

In any event, please accept my non-offensive, universally neutral, unbiased, culturally sensitive, omi-generational relevant, non-ironic, broadly gender and race encompassing, agnostic, and entirely well meaning expression of friendly kindness, fellow human.

[PositiveRate27]

So, are there pilots out there who do not plan to fly safely?

Yes there are. They are the reason the flag flying over parliament hill doesn't have a hammer and a sickle. Quite a bit of what they do could not be reasonably considered "safe."

You need a vacation dude.

+1

If you're taking offense to someone expressing a friendly sentiment intended to show thoughtful care as you embark into the great blue yonder and savor the magic of flight, you may need more fiber in your diet. If you find it rude to use a commonly accepted moniker in casual conversation, I believe you do indeed need a vacation, dude.

I am contemplating a rant on how rude it is to call someone "dude".

It's not rude. It's a colloquial and commonly used mainstream term, generally referring to another individual in a friendly and casual manner. Much like saying "hey man," or "hello friend!" or "hey buddy" or "what's up pal?" one can say "dude." I work with a New Zealander who will sometimes say "cheers mate," although I'm quite sure he doesn't intend to ever "mate" with me, I try to not take offense to his well meaning friendliness.

You're lamenting the neo-liberal "nowadays" ways with your comment about "hey person" but yet, the sensitivity to a sensible and reasonable, friendly salutation and a commonly used term sound more like the agenda touting eco-feminist-lefties intently looking to manufacture their own resentment from perceived injustice rather than an old pilot.

In any event, please accept my non-offensive, universally neutral, unbiased, culturally sensitive, omi-generational relevant, non-ironic, broadly gender and race encompassing, agnostic, and entirely well meaning expression of friendly kindness, fellow human.

Righteous.

[AuxBatOn]

Personally, I might fly very safely, or with consideration, less safely, but with mitigation.

This was lost in the noise. Flying is inherently risky. Some types of flying are riskier than other and proper mitigation is key. "Fly safe", IMO, is just a way to emphasise to someone to apply proper mitigation.