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Re: Winter Bid released today.

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Will we potentially see some new hires (say within the last 6 months) bid onto new aircraft with this bid? Newer CRJ FO's being bumped to other aircraft?

Where will all the RJ Captains go from YYZ if YYC and YVR Q and -8 Captains with much higher seniority bid onto the RJ? The lowest RJ Captain in YYZ is in the 600's and there are many -8 and Q Captains who are in YVR or YYC (But commuting) that have a much higher number than that.

I'm curious to see what it all looks like when the dust settles.
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lazyeight wrote:Will we potentially see some new hires (say within the last 6 months) bid onto new aircraft with this bid? Newer CRJ FO's being bumped to other aircraft?

Where will all the RJ Captains go from YYZ if YYC and YVR Q and -8 Captains with much higher seniority bid onto the RJ? The lowest RJ Captain in YYZ is in the 600's and there are many -8 and Q Captains who are in YVR or YYC (But commuting) that have a much higher number than that.

I'm curious to see what it all looks like when the dust settles.
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Re: Winter Bid released today.

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By "higher" I mean on the list... lower number overall.
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Have interviews slowed down at all during the period of this new bid coming out or has it still been full steam ahead?
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From what I've heard from a buddy who was just in Initial GS and from people I know who got the call.....sounds like 1-2 GS/mth until the year ends.
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Most spots will likely be in YVR but we won't know till the results are out. Won't likely be any YYZ openings for a while.
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There is currently a GS underway. The plan as I was told was 2 in sept and then 1 a month onward from there. Most spots will be YVR/YUL
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Any recent revelations? When does the finalized roster come out?
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Saxub wrote:Any recent revelations? When does the finalized roster come out?
Nothing yet. The award should be out by the 13th at the latest I believe.

As for revelations, there are some rumours floating around, but I don't put any stock in them until I hear something official. So far everything I've heard has had no evidence to support it.
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skypirate88 wrote:
Saxub wrote:Any recent revelations? When does the finalized roster come out?
Nothing yet. The award should be out by the 13th at the latest I believe.

As for revelations, there are some rumours floating around, but I don't put any stock in them until I hear something official. So far everything I've heard has had no evidence to support it.

Any new info to share with the bid finalizing? any spots left in yyz or yyc?
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Rowdy wrote:There is currently a GS underway. The plan as I was told was 2 in sept and then 1 a month onward from there. Most spots will be YVR/YUL
Any word on if this will continue into the new year?
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Bid is out. Just by my quick math there are 70-75 vacancies in YVR on all types.

About 17 in YYC

About 15 in YYZ. All Dash Classic

About 28 openings in YUL. Mainly Q
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Most junior captain at Jazz is YVR DH8 Classic
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KenoraPilot wrote:Most junior captain at Jazz is YVR DH8 Classic


and was hired November 2015 :shock:
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Most Jr. raj captain is around 2 years and YVR based.
RJ captains with less than 3 years in both YYC and YVR
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Finding 130+ pilots over the next 8-9 months will not be easy. Lots of other tier II carriers looking for pilots as well.
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rudder wrote:Finding 130+ pilots over the next 8-9 months will not be easy. Lots of other tier II carriers looking for pilots as well.

Perhaps that's a good thing. Maybe the pay will have to increase to attract some of the more experienced folks. Although I suspect, the hiring minimums will just be lowered.

The training department is sure going to be busy though. Between the 130 projected vacancies, and the 200 training events this bid has created there will be plenty of overtime I am sure.
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KenoraPilot wrote:Most junior captain at Jazz is YVR DH8 Classic
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skypirate88 wrote:
rudder wrote:Finding 130+ pilots over the next 8-9 months will not be easy. Lots of other tier II carriers looking for pilots as well.

Perhaps that's a good thing. Maybe the pay will have to increase to attract some of the more experienced folks. Although I suspect, the hiring minimums will just be lowered.

The training department is sure going to be busy though. Between the 130 projected vacancies, and the 200 training events this bid has created there will be plenty of overtime I am sure.
With the FPMA rumoured to be announced early october.. it could become quite interesting. AC still in need of a +300 pilots at present. Not to mention any early retirements (forecasting is based on everyone going to 65) Plus the fleet plans and additional airframes. How many of those hired after jan 2015 will stay at Jazz? Speaking with many of my peers here, most had planned to go to main line as soon as they could. Same goes with GGN and SKR.

Training department will be flat out.. as will HR. I believe we are already at the lowest point for experience levels with new hires. Any lower and the costs go up with failures and additional training to meet the standards here. It was mentioned to me that the success rate on the RJ is proportionate to the experience level.

There will need to be some incentives or contract changes to attract qualified people to continue this growth plan. Why leave your cushy 1900/king air or corp jet spot for a pay cut and 2 years at Jazz and then another 4 years at AC before your pay returns.

Only time will tell :)
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Rowdy wrote:There will need to be some incentives or contract changes to attract qualified people to continue this growth plan. Why leave your cushy 1900/king air or corp jet spot for a pay cut and 2 years at Jazz and then another 4 years at AC before your pay returns.
Well said!
Taking that initial pay cut, that's upwards of 50%, really hurts when it will take 6 of your remaining 35 years of your career to recover from. That's a pay cut for 17% of your remaining career.

Also really sucks when you just finished setting up your house in Toronto, then to find out you are moving to Montreal or Vancouver.
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