The future

[timel]

This thread has been really interesting to me, I think there are a lot of very good comments and it triggers reflexion on my side.

We are dependent on our southern friends in order for our economy to prosper, and I believe that Trump's future decisions will have a huge impact on our economy and jobs. People are blaming the Little Potato for printing money, but he doesn't have the choice, Canada is crumbling under ridiculous domestic / house debts, the oil is not going up and part time jobs are replacing full time jobs. All he can do is try to stimulate the economy and hope it will get better.

To finish, I thought again about the new era concept or change of mentalities, maybe Trump was meant to be elected by a silent majority. Even if Trump campaign was socially irresponsible, I agree that it was not a racist decision for most of the people who voted for him, maybe this is just the normal step after Brexit, people are pissed and he is offering a drastic change. Maybe it is really the end of globalization as we know it, Americans are fed up to export jobs. Europeans are fed up that a non elected Euro government is making decision on the population behalf, Canadians are pissed at TFW programs...

It is too bad people are protesting, democracy spoke and it is time to move on.
The next four years will be very interesting.

[Rockie]

This will be my last post in this thread. I started it following a sleepless night after the election because I had to express my horror at what had just happened and fear for what will ensue. Nothing said or done since has allayed that fear. Time will tell.

I would like to sincerely thank the moderators for allowing this discussion to continue. I would also especially like to thank and congratulate my fellow posters for participating, but not letting such a potentially explosive topic degrade into what it could have been.

Well done, and thank you.

[pelmet]

This is my last post as well. But I do leave one video as an example of how the so-called discrimination in society that will extend forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52o1d7XPni0

[B208]

Yeah,
Discrimination. that's why th free world has been lead by a black man for the last 8 years......

[geodoc]

Yes indeed, his inauguration 'twas indeed the final fulfillment of the Day of Jubilee.

Yeah, Discrimination. that's why th free world has been lead by a black man for the last 8 years......

[Eric Janson]

Pierce Morgan says it really well...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-1 ... led-losing

[AuxBatOn]

To finish, I thought again about the new era concept or change of mentalities, maybe Trump was meant to be elected by a silent majority.

Just st a point of clarification. Trump was not elected by a majority of the poular vote. In fact, Hillary won the popular vote by more than 1.4 million votes! The electirate is what elected Trump. In 2016, therr is no reason for the electorate to exists. The country elects one person: each vote should be worth the same.

[Nark]

To finish, I thought again about the new era concept or change of mentalities, maybe Trump was meant to be elected by a silent majority.

Just st a point of clarification. Trump was not elected by a majority of the poular vote. In fact, Hillary won the popular vote by more than 1.4 million votes! The electirate is what elected Trump. In 2016, therr is no reason for the electorate to exists. The country elects one person: each vote should be worth the same.

Which is precisely why the electoral vote is the way it is.

The United States isn't a democracy.

[xsbank]

Now that you have all stopped "clutching your pearls," don't we all feel better?

I'm surprised that so much hysteria has been revealed in these ranks of steely-eyed professional aviators.

Take another look at our Little Potato and what smooth, pc crap he spouted to get elected, every Liberal on the planet was so warm and fuzzy with his platitudes, feminism, fix the Indian problem, oh, and legalize marijuana. How many of those promises did he keep?

Trump pisses off every Liberal on the planet because he behaves opposite to our Potato. Listen to the gnashing of teeth, the rending of garments. There are protests in the US where they think if enough yahoos stand on street corners crying, the Constitution will annul the election.

He isn't even the President yet. In case you hadn't noticed, he is a tv star, not a politician. Who can remember what any tv star says unless he's funny? He will likely turn out to be better at being the president than Ronald Reagan's chimp....

[Inverted2]

All I can say is Kleenex stocks are going to go up because there's gonna be a lot of liberal tears shed in the next 4 years.

Some US universities actually brought in emotional support kittens and puppies as well as coloring books for students too traumatized over Trumps win.

[CpnCrunch]

Well, if you think it's all about liberal vs conservative, you're completely missing the point. Virtually the entire Republican party abandoned Trump.

Do you seriously think Trudeau isn't going to legalize pot?

[7ECA]

Well, if you think it's all about liberal vs conservative, you're completely missing the point. Virtually the entire Republican party abandoned Trump.

And are all now falling back into the fold, around their glorious new leader.

[Rookie50]

To finish, I thought again about the new era concept or change of mentalities, maybe Trump was meant to be elected by a silent majority.

Just st a point of clarification. Trump was not elected by a majority of the poular vote. In fact, Hillary won the popular vote by more than 1.4 million votes! The electirate is what elected Trump. In 2016, therr is no reason for the electorate to exists. The country elects one person: each vote should be worth the same.

Which is precisely why the electoral vote is the way it is.

The United States isn't a democracy.

You think we're different?

Democracy isn't to be trusted to the dumb voters, someone said.

[timel]

Just st a point of clarification. Trump was not elected by a majority of the poular vote. In fact, Hillary won the popular vote by more than 1.4 million votes! The electirate is what elected Trump. In 2016, therr is no reason for the electorate to exists. The country elects one person: each vote should be worth the same.

Which is precisely why the electoral vote is the way it is.

The United States isn't a democracy.

You think we're different?

Democracy isn't to be trusted to the dumb voters, someone said.

AuxBatOn, true ... my mistake.
While I am looking at the stats, only 54.87% of the elegible people voted.

Dumb or not educated?
Awareness comes with education.

[AuxBatOn]

While I am looking at the stats, only 54.87% of the elegible people voted.

Dumb or not educated?
Awareness comes with education.

A lot of people I know did not vote because of the lack of a viable choice. In their mind, they had the choice between a crazy person and a traitor.

[CpnCrunch]

A lot of people I know did not vote because of the lack of a viable choice. In their mind, they had the choice between a crazy person and a traitor.

Traitor?

[timel]

A lot of people I know did not vote because of the lack of a viable choice. In their mind, they had the choice between a crazy person and a traitor.

Traitor?

Benghazi.

[CpnCrunch]

A lot of people I know did not vote because of the lack of a viable choice. In their mind, they had the choice between a crazy person and a traitor.

Traitor?

Benghazi.

Well, there isn't any evidence that Clinton had any responsibility for that (other than being the person at the top). Do you call your commanding officer a "traitor" every time one of your soldiers is killed by the enemy?

Some people just believe all the BS they read on their facebook newsfeed, without bothering to fact check it. It all comes down to education, like you said. But not a university education...rather, people need to educate themselves and not believe all the crap their read. The ultimate end result of believing all the propoganda is that you end up like Russia (which may be Trump's end goal).

[AuxBatOn]

Not only Benghazi but also storing highly classified material on a personnal server, something that anybody with a security clearance should be better than doing this.... Basically, she cannot be trusted and is willing to sacrifice others for her personnal gain.

If a mere mortal with a security clearance would do this, this would be prison time, no questions asked.

[B208]

Not only Benghazi but also storing highly classified material on a personnal server, something that anybody with a security clearance should be better than doing this.... Basically, she cannot be trusted and is willing to sacrifice others for her personnal gain.

If a mere mortal with a security clearance would do this, this would be prison time, no questions asked.

I think this sums things up nicely. The choice was between someone that appeared to be a buffoon and someone that was demonstrably untrustworthy.

[geodoc]

You mean as in David Petraeus or Colin Powell?

..................... If a mere mortal with a security clearance would do this, this would be prison time, no questions asked.

[AuxBatOn]

You mean as in David Petraeus or Colin Powell?

I am talking about H. Clinton and why people do no trust her with their Country. Anybody found sharing or purposefully mishandling classified information should be prosecuted.

[geodoc]

Trey Gowdy's 'investigation' cost the US taxpayer (inc. me, being a dual Canada / US citizen) in excess of 6.8 million dollars investigating Ms. Clinton and turned up ..........................

Leaked information from the committee points to a possible Vince Foster connection.

All that's pretty much consigned to history with the new President being otherwise occupied with Making America Great Again!

You mean as in David Petraeus or Colin Powell?

I am talking about H. Clinton and why people do no trust her with their Country. Anybody found sharing or purposefully mishandling classified information should be prosecuted.

[CpnCrunch]

You mean as in David Petraeus or Colin Powell?

I am talking about H. Clinton and why people do no trust her with their Country. Anybody found sharing or purposefully mishandling classified information should be prosecuted.

So your definition of "treason" is someone who used a personal email server so that she could do her job more efficiently? Doesn't that word normally mean someone who works *against* their country?

And the investigation found that she didn't purposefully mishandle classified information. All 3 classified emails just had small classified portions, marked by a "(c)" at the paragraph, which she may or may not have realised.

Do you want to charge George W Bush with treason for using a personal email server as well?

Being careless and technically clueless is quite a different crime from "treason".

[Rockie]

Here I go violating my "last post" declaration.

"Confidential" is a classification you put on something that contains innocuous items like a social insurance number. When I was in we regularly looked at grainy old photos of soviet equipment classified as "secret" when much better photos were published routinely in Janes.

In terms of severity of risk to the country wrt classified information I would be much more concerned about an emotionally unstable, sociopathic 13 year old President who likely is financially compromised (and probably in other ways as well) having access to America's most carefully held secrets.

In terms of untrustworthiness how does Clinton come close to a man proven to have no use for the truth or facts of any kind?