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B208 wrote: Her she parrots the BLM mantra.
From your article, she says race is a problem (which isn't in doubt) and that there was a problem with some police shootings (which isn't in doubt either, as the police officer in question for one of those shootings has been charged with first degree felony manslaughter).
We see that the Saudis have contributed between $10 and $25 million to the Clinton foundation. We don't know the exact number because the foundation doesn't want to tell us.
That's more a problem with the US political system. Perhaps *all* advertising should be banned. It's great if you have a billion dollars to funnel into your campaign, but everyone else needs to solicit donations.

Anyway, your arguments aren't really holding much water.
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Time to dust off Richard Hofstadter


In fact, the idea of the paranoid style as a force in politics would have little contemporary relevance or historical value if it were applied only to men with profoundly disturbed minds. It is the use of paranoid modes of expression by more or less normal people that makes the phenomenon significant.


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Rockie wrote: That's very true, but in this case it's a matter of scale in a binary choice. Millions of people think Clinton is less trustworthy than Trump, which makes anyone not suffering from cognitive bias weep with despair over the future of the human race.
Just as millions "weep with despair" that people can't actually understand the incredibly non-complex and basic concept that Clintons corruption matters to democracy.

This is, of course, your not so humble point of view?
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
Rockie wrote: That's very true, but in this case it's a matter of scale in a binary choice. Millions of people think Clinton is less trustworthy than Trump, which makes anyone not suffering from cognitive bias weep with despair over the future of the human race.
Just as millions "weep with despair" that people can't actually understand the incredibly non-complex and basic concept that Clintons corruption matters to democracy.

This is, of course, your not so humble point of view?
Everybody understands the Clinton flaws. What people don't seem to consider, or are inexplicably willing to forgive, are Trump's:

Bigotry
Mysogeny
Sexism
The fact he employed illegal labour - including his wife
The fact he stiffed those labourers out of wages - because he could.
The fact he boasts about sexually assaulting women
The fact many women have come forward to confirm his boasts
The fact he liked to walk in on naked teenaged girls at pageants. And boasts about it
Frequented parties hosted by a convicted pedophile
Was accused of rape by a 13 year old girl at the same parties
Defrauded thousands with his Trump University con
Stiffed on a regular basis contractor who made the mistake of trusting him (pay attention voters)
His total disdain for truth even when it makes him, and now all Americans, look embarrassingly stupid. There are just too many examples to list here, but I'm sure you can think of them all yourself.

And as if his repugnant character weren't enough, how about his glaringly obvious incompetence to shoulder the massive responsibility of President, a job he only pursued to get revenge on Obama for in the first place - and never expected to get.

Compared to Clinton? You people are mad.
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Rockie, its over...
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cdnpilot77 wrote:Rockie, its over...
The election is over, but "it" isn't. "It" is just beginning.

Edit: Hey guess what? Mike Pence is fighting to withhold relevant emails regarding immigration from his governor's office. Is that hypocrisy I smell?
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So ominous...I'm sorry you're living such a tortured life
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CpnCrunch wrote:
We see that the Saudis have contributed between $10 and $25 million to the Clinton foundation. We don't know the exact number because the foundation doesn't want to tell us.
That's more a problem with the US political system. Perhaps *all* advertising should be banned.
Absolutely. Ban it all. Corporate, PAC, all of it. No ad's funded by unions either. No "special interest" messages by unions around elections. Jail terms for violators. These groups hijack elections.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:So ominous...I'm sorry you're living such a tortured life
What would give you the impression the majority of Americans who don't want Trump as their president would just bend over and take it up the rear for the next four years?

What makes you think Canadians, or people from any other country are willing to do the same when Trump comes barging in with his demands?

Time to wake up cdnpilot77.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
Just as millions "weep with despair" that people can't actually understand the incredibly non-complex and basic concept that Clintons corruption matters to democracy.

This is, of course, your not so humble point of view?
The thing is, nobody can seem to come up with a concrete case of her corruption. Lots of people mention wikileaks, but nothing really damning was found there. The email server was just her trying to do her job better, so not exactly "corruption" in any sense. The Benghazi incident wasn't caused by her "corruption" or "treason".

The worst people can come up with is the fact that she accepted donations from people who stood to benefit from her policies (but, crucially, no proof that her policies changed because of donations). It's unprovable whether or not she is corrupt, and the only solution is to ban donations and advertising. Still, not a very good reason to vote for Trump (known racist and anti-science) vs Clinton (speculation that she might be corrupt).

I do find it strange that a lot of pilots seem to have difficulty separation fact from speculation. On the other hand, there's so much BS believed by many pilots (FTUisms come to mind) that perhaps it shouldn't be surprising at all.
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Rockie wrote:
Time to wake up cdnpilot77.
I am wide awake and accept what democracy has done. You can't protest the winner, that is irrelevant. Protest the system that got him there. And I don't mean the actual election. Think deeper. Your thoughts are way too superficial to be meaningful. What is the root cause of Trump winning this election? If you come up with nothing more than "they're a bunch of hillbilly misoginist racists" than you really haven't had the introspective look that the now flaccid Democratic Party needs.
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CpnCrunch wrote: From your article, she says race is a problem (which isn't in doubt) and that there was a problem with some police shootings (which isn't in doubt either, as the police officer in question for one of those shootings has been charged with first degree felony manslaughter).
My friend, a wise man doubts everything. Race politics is a problem. Telling every black person that their woes are the direct result of white privilege is very problematic. It is akin to what the KKK does.
CpnCrunch wrote: That's more a problem with the US political system. Perhaps *all* advertising should be banned. It's great if you have a billion dollars to funnel into your campaign, but everyone else needs to solicit donations.
That's just willfully stupid. She accepted donations from a foreign government that practices policies which she claims to find abhorrent. The Saudis are also linked to serious efforts to damage the west. And once again the Saudis are linked with a previous president (Bush Jr) who started a useless war that only benefited the Saudis.

If you still think Hillary was going to act with the best interests of the West at heart, so be it. I don't
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Rockie wrote:
Everybody understands the Clinton flaws. What people don't seem to consider, or are inexplicably willing to forgive, are Trump's:

Mysogeny
Sexism
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The fact he boasts about sexually assaulting women
The fact many women have come forward to confirm his boasts
The fact he liked to walk in on naked teenaged girls at pageants. And boasts about it
Frequented parties hosted by a convicted pedophile
Was accused of rape by a 13 year old girl at the same parties
So, you'd rather accept the candidate that goes home and sleeps with a rapist?

Rockie wrote: ..... You people are mad
The only one that is have an emotional response her, (by which I mean tantrum), is you.
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Response No. 1 tailor made for B208...
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Response 2 for C208 and cdnpilot77 and Cat Driver, who I'd have thought would have had more sense than to show his ass like he's doing.
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Hi Rockie,

While I wouldn't have voted for Trump because of his character, you have to admit, he has some great ideas. All those green policies are going to disappear as we cannot control the sun and its effect on the earth. I expect that my pipeline stocks will go up soon. And it will be nice to finally do something serious about the porous border down south that the left used as a way to get more voters into the country. And finally somebody is not afraid to use the term terrorism in the name of islam(well, the terrorists are not afraid of stating this).

People are sick of being called a racist for stating the truth. It is the only explanation I have for why so many voted for Trump. Because of groups, media outlets, politicians who tried to get or stay on power on a platform of white people automatically have "privilege" so laws can be passed to discriminate against them. People voted against the new left world of micro-aggressions and being labelled a racist to say that ALL LIVES MATTER. Or saying that most mass terrorism has to do with islam, etc.

So while I was surprised to see Trump win and as a conservative, have some concerns based on his personality....I really am enjoying the cry-in sessions that I have been seeing.

The media still hasn't figured it out yet that people like you and themselves got Trump into power. Now we hear about Nazis and hate crimes and whitelash. Keep it up because as long as you do, you will stay in the so-called opposition, at least in America. That being said, I think Canada is different and you can enjoy your electricity rates in Ontario and elsewhere.

Oops, just saw the new post...same with CNCPC. As if anyone really cares what you think of us. And by the way for those reading this, CNCPC was the same guy that expressed much concern for the dead Windsor criminal pilot that had ruined so many lives while not appearing to have any concern for the victims. I think we might have a similar posting about you.
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B208

Remember that cognitive bias I mentioned?

Pelmet

Trump has no ideas beyond "something terrific" and "good management". Anybody who tried to get some elaboration beyond that got nothing but a more emphatic repeat of the same 3-4 words Trump memorized at great effort.

Re: global warming - evolution is a fact, the earth is not flat, the earth is not 6000 years old, man did land on the moon, and Sandy Hook was not staged by the government.

Rejection of science is not a flattering look on anybody.
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And to Rockie...

Respect man. Some of these pathetic gobshites need to be stood up to.

Really, as an industry, we need to find out who they are and do our best to ensure they find it difficult to work or find anybody to go for a beer with.

Well, we know who Cat is?
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CNCPC, don't blur the line between support And understanding why he got the support he did. I am not a US citizen and have no vote. I don't and didn't support either.
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cncpc wrote:And to Rockie...

Respect man. Some of these pathetic gobshites need to be stood up to.

Really, as an industry, we need to find out who they are and do our best to ensure they find it difficult to work or find anybody to go for a beer with.
Hey...I like when the true colours come out. So now CNCPC advocates a policy of "making it difficult to work" based on who they voted for.

As an industry, you say. What do you mean? Firing people perhaps. Not accepting their application for a job, maybe?
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cncpc wrote:And to Rockie...

Respect man. Some of these pathetic gobshites need to be stood up to.

Really, as an industry, we need to find out who they are and do our best to ensure they find it difficult to work or find anybody to go for a beer with.

Well, we know who Cat is?
How very professional of you.

They don't think like I do, so let's try to destroy their lives. That's a very democrat/liberal methodology. *slow clap*
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All those green policies are going to disappear as we cannot control the sun and its effect on the earth.
Pelmet, you can't be serious.
I expect that my pipeline stocks will go up soon.
Even if OPEC manages a deal, followed by Trump destroying the good work done by the Obama administration with Iran, which equals removing a "terrorist" oil supplier from the market, watch out for the US private oil industry that will compensate when the prices will go up, not sure the demand is here anymore to justify oil prices like it used to be.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
cncpc wrote:And to Rockie...

Respect man. Some of these pathetic gobshites need to be stood up to.

Really, as an industry, we need to find out who they are and do our best to ensure they find it difficult to work or find anybody to go for a beer with.

Well, we know who Cat is?
How very professional of you.

They don't think like I do, so let's try to destroy their lives. That's a very democrat/liberal methodology. *slow clap*
You seriously underestimate how despicable your views are, and the dishonest way you try to back them up.

As one of the above says, you have to own what you are. If you're proud of it, tell you're employer.

This is the wrong door to be knocking on with your passive/aggressive routine.

Crawl back under the rock you came out from under to spread your shite on here.
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