Rockie wrote:Were you ever in the Air Force?B208 wrote:Air Force. You want to make decisions, that's the place.
Currently.
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Rockie wrote:Were you ever in the Air Force?B208 wrote:Air Force. You want to make decisions, that's the place.
What do you do in the Air Force?B208 wrote:Rockie wrote:Were you ever in the Air Force?B208 wrote:Air Force. You want to make decisions, that's the place.
Currently.
Hey you could go to university, get 40K in debt, have crappy job prospects, then get said job and rot sitting behind a desk with no view. Work 5 days a week, while commuting 2+ hours because you can't afford to live near you work. You hate your job, lets be honest, but you enjoyed yourself in high school and all you had to worry about was what to wear and you which party to attend.Eugene_goostman wrote:Being gone over half the month. Low to moderate pay to start. Eventually make good money but then you are married to your company. Hanging out with people you barely know. Hotels suck. Flying is pretty boring if you are honest. Eating out sucks. I liked things better when I was a 703 pilot and actually flew airplanes and made decisions besides how I want my coffee.
Should I get out of the airlines and go back? Is there another line of work such as corporate that is okay or does that suck as well?
Nothing stops you from going back!lownslow wrote:You should take this attitude on the road and do a speaking tour of all this country's 703 operators...Eugene_goostman wrote:Being gone over half the month. Low to moderate pay to start. Eventually make good money but then you are married to your company. Hanging out with people you barely know. Hotels suck. Flying is pretty boring if you are honest. Eating out sucks. I liked things better when I was a 703 pilot and actually flew airplanes and made decisions besides how I want my coffee.
I am a pilot and I enjoy the officership aspects of the job. If one picks their secondary duties, (OpsO, UFSO), or takes advantage of other opportunities, (ALO, etc...) there is plenty of opportunity to exercise your decision making skills; It's somewhat like being a management pilot at AC from what I'm told. Depending on the community you wind up in, you may be making a lot more decisions than your civil counter parts. For example, ATG requires its crews to do quite a bit of planning and decision making WRT mission accomplishment; This is the sort of thing that dispatch would take care of in an airline. I can't speak for the other communities because I have limited exposure. Perhaps some MAG, FTR or TACHEL guys would like to chime in.Rockie wrote:I'm just curious, won't be any fight from me. Having been in the Air Force and a Captain in the airlines I can't see any discernible difference between my authority and decision making responsibilities in civilian aviation versus my life in the military. I was simply curious what B208 is doing that he does.
The lack of decision making that concerns the OP is the factor here, which is an odd thing to say since the PIC is ultimately and solely responsible for the safety every flight. That requires a lot of decision making.
Just curious; I know you were a fighter guy; Are you saying taking an A320 from CYYZ to CYVR is on par with taking a CF188 (operationally) into Kosovo in terms of decision making while in flight? I have no exposure to either, so I'll accept your call on the matter.Having been in the Air Force and a Captain in the airlines I can't see any discernible difference between my authority and decision making responsibilities in civilian aviation versus my life in the military
Depends on the day really. While no one is shooting at you there are no shortage of threats and planning involved in the safe execution of a flight going for instance to YYT late on a crappy winter night. As I said, the PIC is solely responsible for deciding what's safe, what isn't safe, and when to bail out. There are mostly routine flights and some not so much, same as flying fighters.B208 wrote:Are you saying taking an A320 from CYYZ to CYVR is on par with taking a CF188 (operationally) into Kosovo in terms of decision making while in flight?