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goingnowherefast wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:19 pm I agree they have a much nicer inflight product than the other airilnes. It's great to sit down, have a beer, relax and enjoy the comfortable seats. Encore might as well have made seats from particle board panted teal, then charge you $1 for the complaints form.
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ShamrockPilot wrote: Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:45 am
goingnowherefast wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:19 pm I agree they have a much nicer inflight product than the other airilnes. It's great to sit down, have a beer, relax and enjoy the comfortable seats. Encore might as well have made seats from particle board panted teal, then charge you $1 for the complaints form.
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From what I’ve heard is that Porter started out with 72 seats and has slowly been increasing the seat count to the current limit of 78.

Here’s hoping that the 90-seat variant of the Q cannot be a convert from the 78-seat version.
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Looks like the CP has possibly moved on, speculation, maybe the new Q start up out of Quebec, Trek I believe.
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mbav8r wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:53 am Looks like the CP has possibly moved on, speculation, maybe the new Q start up out of Quebec, Trek I believe.
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Nope, back to Transport Canada AFAIK
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Never a good sign when the CP bails. Especially back to their old job.
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**** wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:58 am Never a good sign when the CP bails. Especially back to their old job.
I wouldn’t read too much into it.
You would have to be crazy to turn down the pay, pension, and job security of a government job right now
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Sharklasers wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:58 pm
**** wrote: Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:58 am Never a good sign when the CP bails. Especially back to their old job.
I wouldn’t read too much into it.
You would have to be crazy to turn down the pay, pension, and job security of a government job right now
You need a scorecard to keep track of the Flt Ops managers they have left Porter over the past few years, including the VP level.
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Did someone say scorecard?
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https://globalnews.ca/news/7669266/coro ... reopening/
Coronavirus: Toronto’s Porter Airlines sets new tentative reopening date of May 19
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Hiring??
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Maybe pick up all the flts AC abandoned in the maritimes.
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ayseven wrote: Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:24 pm Maybe pick up all the flts AC abandoned in the maritimes.
I imagine the Maritime routes be resurrected once the bubble ends. AC will likely return to any route that can at least support a Q400, the routes in jeopardy are one's that are only feasible utilizing DH3's, which are being withdrawn/removed from fleet by the end of the year.
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Did any of the March and April new hires contact Porter / HR regarding the plan for them? I know it's a long shot but I'm hoping someone has information.
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monsieur_zero wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:56 pm Did any of the March and April new hires contact Porter / HR regarding the plan for them? I know it's a long shot but I'm hoping someone has information.
Essentially recall all pilots before initiating a ground school. From what I remember last year, their objective was to start a ground school as soon as possible after restarting. Of course, things may have changed since.
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Another delay added, start date pushed to June 21. Let’s hope this is the last and things look up from here.
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As much as I like the airline, I certainly won't be booking anything with them anytime soon. Not until they're actually flying again. At this point, they've proven that their restart dates simply cannot be trusted.

I'd hate to see them go, but constantly shifting the goalposts like this is seriously harming consumer confidence, I think.
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montado wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 8:53 am Another delay added, start date pushed to June 21. Let’s hope this is the last and things look up from here.
so pushed up to june 21 from june 29?
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RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:02 am As much as I like the airline, I certainly won't be booking anything with them anytime soon. Not until they're actually flying again. At this point, they've proven that their restart dates simply cannot be trusted. I'd hate to see them go, but constantly shifting the goalposts like this is seriously harming consumer confidence, I think.
Their restart dates have always been linked to the situation that is presented at that time. They've also included reasons why they keep pushing back the restart date; and it's pretty much been due to border restrictions, isolation rules, passenger demand, and recently vaccine rollout. Based on their business model, their hands have been tied as the government keep shifting the posts for them.

Is it frustrating as a passenger that the date keeps getting pushed back? Ask their crews!
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Will there be anyone left to come back, if the company ever does restart ?
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Kosiw wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:18 pm Will there be anyone left to come back, if the company ever does restart ?
I'm not with Porter, but if I was offered a job with them before I am recalled to the other airline I was flying for, I would take the Porter job.

I'm sure that there are many pilots who feel the same way as me. There'll be people ready to take the positions.
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Grey_Wolf wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:48 am
RedAndWhiteBaron wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:02 am As much as I like the airline, I certainly won't be booking anything with them anytime soon. Not until they're actually flying again. At this point, they've proven that their restart dates simply cannot be trusted. I'd hate to see them go, but constantly shifting the goalposts like this is seriously harming consumer confidence, I think.
Their restart dates have always been linked to the situation that is presented at that time. They've also included reasons why they keep pushing back the restart date; and it's pretty much been due to border restrictions, isolation rules, passenger demand, and recently vaccine rollout. Based on their business model, their hands have been tied as the government keep shifting the posts for them.

Is it frustrating as a passenger that the date keeps getting pushed back? Ask their crews!
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to assign any fault to Porter. I don't envy their position. I just think it's a very unfortunate reality.
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NEWS PROVIDED BY

Porter Airlines
May 17, 2021, 09:30 ET

TORONTO, May 17, 2021 /CNW/ - Porter Airlines is resetting its tentative date for resuming flights to July 20.

"It's encouraging to see the recovery of the aviation industry in the U.S.," said Michael Deluce, president and CEO of Porter Airlines. "As vaccination rates in Canada increase, we are hopeful travel restrictions and public health measures will ease, so we can recall our team members, welcome back our passengers and begin to rebuild the airline."

Porter previously set June 21, as its tentative restart date. Operations were temporarily suspended on March 21, 2020, due to COVID-19.
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The cost of reopening Billy Bishop cannot be sustained by a 10% operation. Or 20%. Even 30% is questionable.

I don’t see Porter turning a prop prior to Labour Day. HRH JT and Princess Tam want Canada closed for the summer. We ‘might’ get permission to have backyard bbq’s with friends by Canada Day. Maritimes are closed. Travel to US (at least the return portion) is effectively prohibited.

There is no realistic demand for the Porter product. Would be lucky to be operating at 30% of 2019 capacity by Xmas 2021.
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This is complete BS. Trudeau and Doug need to put some advertising out that its now safe to travel. We need a jump start. Its not enough to say we are open for business... travel should be encouraged. We need to break down the fear. Everything is pointing to its safe to open. lets go!
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