Countries better than Canada for flying?

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Zaibatsu wrote: Tue May 25, 2021 11:14 am Yes. But not over Canada or any of the boring places Canadian airlines fly to.
Again, not true. Air Canada flies to Doha, Mumbai, Delhi, Brazil, Argentina, China, etc. They fly over some interesting places on the way to these destinations. Also, don't forget that a ton of Canadian carriers fly to Cuba. Basically, this type of stuff can happen anywhere. Hell it could happen over the USA if a passenger is deemed "a threat". (Now that's the key word, isn't it?).
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HSH17 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:12 am
Kejidog wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:44 pm So have you finished your flying lessons yet? The last time I replied to you you were crying about giving up and how hard it was and how hard done by you are. Has this situation changed?

So are you a pilot looking for work seriously; or a troll looking for the easiest least amount of work path to a flying job?

I would suggest applying yourself with some work ethic. Hellian was right in his advice.

You in a forum of pilots with thousands of hours who have lost carriers because of this COVID clusterfuck and you’re crying poor me looking for the easy way? How easy do you think it is to emigrate? Have you even looked at this?

Do you honestly think that you have it harder than anyone else has had it, on here?
Maybe look up Piloty on here if you want to learn what a good attitude seems to be. He’s (she) gonna be successful I would guess just from from the way he (she)presents himself (herself) in writing. To be successful you should emulate successful people


I think maybe you should just apply yourself do the hard work and maybe just maybe, someone my see your stellar potential and let you work loading freight and fuelling planes after several hours perhaps years of doing this you might get the opportunity to fly a plane or two. As far as I can see this is how a lot of people have got to where they are today. Not everyone gets to start at the top as you seem to think that you’re entitled to. Everyone has had it hard. Every generation thinks it is so special, yours especially(whatever it is)
You sound like a bitter boomer who’s never had to spend 50% of their monthly income on a crappy apartment. Stop talking down to someone who’s brought up valid points. It’s really annoying seeing older people act like they’re smarter just because they’re mad they had to work the ramp for years before sitting right seat in a clapped out Navajo.
And you sound like a entitled child. One of us is right. I’ll give your mommy hating child of a boomer a lesson in life. Hard things are hard. I was born well after your small minded insult generational insult was a cohort. Unlike these weak pansies who cry about their lot in life I actually made something of myself and paid my dues and paid my own way.

But keep whining there’s a sucky baby in parliament that will give all you babies a soother and make you feel safe.

Child.
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Im right in the middle of boomers and millennials. And I can tell you boomers are the most entitled generation that has ever walked this earth. I genuinely feel bad for anyone under 30 that has to make it work in this economy.
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:53 pm Im right in the middle of boomers and millennials. And I can tell you boomers are the most entitled generation that has ever walked this earth. I genuinely feel bad for anyone under 30 that has to make it work in this economy.
I've learned the govt don't give two craps about us.
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:53 pm Im right in the middle of boomers and millennials. And I can tell you boomers are the most entitled generation that has ever walked this earth. I genuinely feel bad for anyone under 30 that has to make it work in this economy.
So 'boomers' start at age 30 now? I kinda thought that was mid/late millennial? :rolleyes:
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mmm..bacon wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:20 pm
RRJetPilot wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:53 pm Im right in the middle of boomers and millennials. And I can tell you boomers are the most entitled generation that has ever walked this earth. I genuinely feel bad for anyone under 30 that has to make it work in this economy.
So 'boomers' start at age 30 now? I kinda thought that was mid/late millennial? :rolleyes:
Hu?? No
30 and below is just an age I PERSONALLY think is MOST SCREWED in Canada. 55+ I consider the most spoiled entitled generation of boomers. Im early 40s.
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RRJetPilot wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 7:13 pm
mmm..bacon wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 5:20 pm
RRJetPilot wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:53 pm Im right in the middle of boomers and millennials. And I can tell you boomers are the most entitled generation that has ever walked this earth. I genuinely feel bad for anyone under 30 that has to make it work in this economy.
So 'boomers' start at age 30 now? I kinda thought that was mid/late millennial? :rolleyes:
Hu?? No
30 and below is just an age I PERSONALLY think is MOST SCREWED in Canada. 55+ I consider the most spoiled entitled generation of boomers. Im early 40s.
Agree.
By the way, I was just boarding on a AC flight from Brussels. The crew is crazy old (FAs and pilots). :shock:
It's very different from what I have experienced overseas. Usually there are not that many dinosaurs in the same plane.
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Kejidog wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 3:46 pm
HSH17 wrote: Sat May 15, 2021 8:12 am
Kejidog wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 2:44 pm So have you finished your flying lessons yet? The last time I replied to you you were crying about giving up and how hard it was and how hard done by you are. Has this situation changed?

So are you a pilot looking for work seriously; or a troll looking for the easiest least amount of work path to a flying job?

I would suggest applying yourself with some work ethic. Hellian was right in his advice.

You in a forum of pilots with thousands of hours who have lost carriers because of this COVID clusterfuck and you’re crying poor me looking for the easy way? How easy do you think it is to emigrate? Have you even looked at this?

Do you honestly think that you have it harder than anyone else has had it, on here?
Maybe look up Piloty on here if you want to learn what a good attitude seems to be. He’s (she) gonna be successful I would guess just from from the way he (she)presents himself (herself) in writing. To be successful you should emulate successful people


I think maybe you should just apply yourself do the hard work and maybe just maybe, someone my see your stellar potential and let you work loading freight and fuelling planes after several hours perhaps years of doing this you might get the opportunity to fly a plane or two. As far as I can see this is how a lot of people have got to where they are today. Not everyone gets to start at the top as you seem to think that you’re entitled to. Everyone has had it hard. Every generation thinks it is so special, yours especially(whatever it is)
You sound like a bitter boomer who’s never had to spend 50% of their monthly income on a crappy apartment. Stop talking down to someone who’s brought up valid points. It’s really annoying seeing older people act like they’re smarter just because they’re mad they had to work the ramp for years before sitting right seat in a clapped out Navajo.
And you sound like a entitled child. One of us is right. I’ll give your mommy hating child of a boomer a lesson in life. Hard things are hard. I was born well after your small minded insult generational insult was a cohort. Unlike these weak pansies who cry about their lot in life I actually made something of myself and paid my dues and paid my own way.

But keep whining there’s a sucky baby in parliament that will give all you babies a soother and make you feel safe.

Child.
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Currently here in Dubai.

Having done the whole Canadian aviation thing and making it to training captain I couldn't stand the low salary, commuting, taxes that was involved with the whole industry.

Decided to pack up and leave years ago and haven't looked back since.
Yes the summers suck. (currently +46 in june) They make you miss home but the winters are what make it all up. 7 months of AMAZING warm weather and such a central hub to visit such a huge % of the world. (Africa, Europe, Asia all within 8 hours or less).

The salaries are uncomparable to Canada and the best part is that there is ZERO TAXES!!!!!

The big amount of money we save (Bonus if you have a wife that works) makes it that we're able to invest in the market or housing or whatever you wish to do so.
You want that brand new G wagon? Go get it. It all works out.

There's obviously negatives but we try to stick to the positive and make the best of our time here.

Canadian aviation. I do NOT miss you.
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ThatGuyHoldingShort wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 4:18 am Currently here in Dubai.

Having done the whole Canadian aviation thing and making it to training captain I couldn't stand the low salary, commuting, taxes that was involved with the whole industry.

Decided to pack up and leave years ago and haven't looked back since.
Yes the summers suck. (currently +46 in june) They make you miss home but the winters are what make it all up. 7 months of AMAZING warm weather and such a central hub to visit such a huge % of the world. (Africa, Europe, Asia all within 8 hours or less).

The salaries are uncomparable to Canada and the best part is that there is ZERO TAXES!!!!!

The big amount of money we save (Bonus if you have a wife that works) makes it that we're able to invest in the market or housing or whatever you wish to do so.
You want that brand new G wagon? Go get it. It all works out.

There's obviously negatives but we try to stick to the positive and make the best of our time here.

Canadian aviation. I do NOT miss you.
Nice smoke and mirror show!

Glad to hear you are making a good go at it in DXB but you are either very senior or very new in country.

A few corrections/clarifications if I may;

In order to not pay any taxes in Canada one needs to divest themselves of all Canadian bank accounts, property etc to be considered a “non resident”.

G wagon you say? Sure, sounds nice but 1) You’ll never be able to keep up to the Emiratis 2) Aren’t you there to save money for your retirement?

Housing:

What does a two bed semi detach go for in Arabian Ranches or in the Springs these days? It was nearly 5K USD/month back when I lived there. Year rent upfront! Afterwards, let’s add maid/gardener/etc.... how do you feel about min wage being less for a Sri Lankan vs. A Phillipino?

The ME is a shadow of its former self for aircrews. Oh and don’t you dare flip the bird to a local as you’ll get remanded for a few days since you will always be considered a “visitor” regardless of where you originate from, the amount of money in the bank or how much property/assets you own.

WACON at EK and FlyDubai have gone to the squat toilet. The glory days are long behind the ME.

Regards,

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In order to not pay any taxes in Canada one needs to divest themselves of all Canadian bank accounts, property etc to be considered a “non resident”.

No, One does not. One may own property and have Canadian bank accounts and pay mortgages and have financial attachments while one is declared Non Resident.Theres a form on the CRA website for one's declaration. Buy and sell houses and have a cottage etc. Please make sure that one passes on correct information when one makes claims.

We lived there for almost 18 years and owned several properties and houses in Canada while we were non resident. (and no we were not with Emirates)

One does agree with the rest though. Glad to be gone!
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GRK2 wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:51 pm In order to not pay any taxes in Canada one needs to divest themselves of all Canadian bank accounts, property etc to be considered a “non resident”.

No, One does not. One may own property and have Canadian bank accounts and pay mortgages and have financial attachments while one is declared Non Resident.Theres a form on the CRA website for one's declaration. Buy and sell houses and have a cottage etc. Please make sure that one passes on correct information when one makes claims.
So you didn’t pay a dime to the CRA in 18 years of “tax free earnings”?

I thought my accountant at the time was “creative” perhaps yours was even more so?!?
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TeePeeCreeper wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:55 pm
Nice smoke and mirror show!

Glad to hear you are making a good go at it in DXB but you are either very senior or very new in country.

A few corrections/clarifications if I may;

In order to not pay any taxes in Canada one needs to divest themselves of all Canadian bank accounts, property etc to be considered a “non resident”.

G wagon you say? Sure, sounds nice but 1) You’ll never be able to keep up to the Emiratis 2) Aren’t you there to save money for your retirement?

Housing:

What does a two bed semi detach go for in Arabian Ranches or in the Springs these days? It was nearly 5K USD/month back when I lived there. Year rent upfront! Afterwards, let’s add maid/gardener/etc.... how do you feel about min wage being less for a Sri Lankan vs. A Phillipino?

The ME is a shadow of its former self for aircrews. Oh and don’t you dare flip the bird to a local as you’ll get remanded for a few days since you will always be considered a “visitor” regardless of where you originate from, the amount of money in the bank or how much property/assets you own.

WACON at EK and FlyDubai have gone to the squat toilet. The glory days are long behind the ME.

Regards,

TPC

I have non-resident status as I have signed all the required documents with RBC to do so. I get to maintain my account with them and regularly send money home.
I have forfeited my useless Canadian health insurance and have sold my house. Not for tax reasons but just because it was a headache for me to deal with and was easier to be out of my way. I could have kept it and paid taxes on profits made from renting it out if I had.

I'm not here to try to keep up with anyone. I'm here to enjoy my life as I wish with no stress financially. As an FO in Canada I could never have dreamt of walking into a dealership and walking out with a 100,000$CAD car and not really think twice or worry.

My retirement ETFs are via Interactive Brokers and all the documents are signed that I live in the UAE and not Canada and get to bypass the taxes once again.

I have been here nearly 5 years.
The Ranches for a 2 bedroom would run you about 95-120K AED a year depending on where you want it.
That's roughly 31-40K CAD a year. Not 5K USD.
I don't have a nanny. My gardener is 70$ CAD a month.
Why does that even matter to you?

I'm not putting any smokes into any mirrors.
I sense you had a bad experience here but it's not like that for everyone.
We call the UAE home and we absolutely love it! Grass isn't greener, It's just different. :)
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That's roughly 31-40K CAD a year. Not 5K USD. [per month]
Big difference?
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photofly wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:55 pm
That's roughly 31-40K CAD a year. Not 5K USD. [per month]
Big difference?
5,000$USD = roughly 6,000$CAD a month multiply by 12 = 72,000$CAD a year versus 35,000$CAD (Averaged)
That's 37,000$CAD a year less, or 50% less whichever way you look at it.

Not sure about you but for me that's a hell of a difference! ;) :P
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Anyone done a tour through Panama?
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ThatGuyHoldingShort wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:23 pm
TeePeeCreeper wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:55 pm
Nice smoke and mirror show!

Glad to hear you are making a good go at it in DXB but you are either very senior or very new in country.

A few corrections/clarifications if I may;

In order to not pay any taxes in Canada one needs to divest themselves of all Canadian bank accounts, property etc to be considered a “non resident”.

G wagon you say? Sure, sounds nice but 1) You’ll never be able to keep up to the Emiratis 2) Aren’t you there to save money for your retirement?

Housing:

What does a two bed semi detach go for in Arabian Ranches or in the Springs these days? It was nearly 5K USD/month back when I lived there. Year rent upfront! Afterwards, let’s add maid/gardener/etc.... how do you feel about min wage being less for a Sri Lankan vs. A Phillipino?

The ME is a shadow of its former self for aircrews. Oh and don’t you dare flip the bird to a local as you’ll get remanded for a few days since you will always be considered a “visitor” regardless of where you originate from, the amount of money in the bank or how much property/assets you own.

WACON at EK and FlyDubai have gone to the squat toilet. The glory days are long behind the ME.

Regards,

TPC

I have non-resident status as I have signed all the required documents with RBC to do so. I get to maintain my account with them and regularly send money home.
I have forfeited my useless Canadian health insurance and have sold my house. Not for tax reasons but just because it was a headache for me to deal with and was easier to be out of my way. I could have kept it and paid taxes on profits made from renting it out if I had.

I'm not here to try to keep up with anyone. I'm here to enjoy my life as I wish with no stress financially. As an FO in Canada I could never have dreamt of walking into a dealership and walking out with a 100,000$CAD car and not really think twice or worry.

My retirement ETFs are via Interactive Brokers and all the documents are signed that I live in the UAE and not Canada and get to bypass the taxes once again.

I have been here nearly 5 years.
The Ranches for a 2 bedroom would run you about 95-120K AED a year depending on where you want it.
That's roughly 31-40K CAD a year. Not 5K USD.
I don't have a nanny. My gardener is 70$ CAD a month.
Why does that even matter to you?

I'm not putting any smokes into any mirrors.
I sense you had a bad experience here but it's not like that for everyone.
We call the UAE home and we absolutely love it! Grass isn't greener, It's just different. :)

SHH don't open up the secret holding short.

Canadian's take pride in living in Ruckersville because they're stuck in the year 2000. In the last 20 years, Canada has become the puke of the world if you're a pilot. I promise you, the price of grass, mountains, and blue skies aren't worth the double fisting you're experiencing if you work as an employee flying for an airline in this country. Not to mention the blatant lack of respect and unity amongst employees. It's like the gate agent gets off on purposely fucking you. That's AC for you. But I mean, when Alberta and Quebec hate each other, BC and Ontario don't get a long, and the bubble out east is treated like another fucking colony, it makes sense when the representation of flying the flag would be the endless fucking amongst employees. It's only consistent.

When you point out to them they're being fisted, all their bull shit starts coming out how Canada is the greatest country, Air Canada is the bomb, and the B1 passes are amazing perks. :lol: Wait, my favorite response is when they talk about their wives not wanting to go to the sandbox. I thought she married you and supported you the entire way? No? I guess the C2 passes and 4 incher you're offering her isn't worth the move half way across the world. The false narrative that's called 'love' I guess.

Yet the reality is that these idiots have to find a shitty parking spot on the 6th floor at Viscount after a 2-hour commute, to drag their 3-day lunch bag on the train that smells like BO from all walks of life crammed in there, to start their day. Let's not forget that this is the creme de la crop of flying in Canada. I mean let's all stop for a second here and realize who it is we are talking about? Gold leaves on a maple leaf hat, it's the cat's ass. :lol: Have you ever noticed how embarrassed and insecure most of these guys look? It's probably due to the confusion between having driven to work in a shitty Ford while being called Canada's Elite Pilot in a cute letter from Murray. I get how that can be confusing. But hey, at least they thank you for your service in every quarterly update. Awwe, so nice of him to thank me for my dedication to Air Canada? I will never call in sick!

What's their response to you when you light this truth under their ass? If you need a 100k car to feel satisfied, you have small man syndrome. haha, it's the standard passive-aggressive insecure Canadian approach when they see someone else have it better. No hombre, you need to offer more than C2 passes and a sub-par Subway sandwich to convince your wife of the greatness that exists outside this socio-capitalistic communist country. Tune it all out holding short, it's great in the UAE.

You've figured it out, man. Take pride in that you've figured out an essential element that places you much further than the majority of your peers when you're done at EK in 10-15 years.

Let all the naysayers have their Canada, you've figured out the matrix at a level these guys will never comprehend.

Oh, they all have a "buddy" who came back and hated it there. Like I said, keep the secret alive, and enjoy!

Does this dweeb who quoted you want to talk about WAWCON? LOL!!!!!!! What was an Air Canada 747 captain hourly rate in the year 2000 multiplied by 30% inflation in today's dollars? What is the 777 paying today? At least you get a few B1 passes to feel important while you get to rely on wall street to hopefully retire from all the youtube videos you learned about value investing in a DC plan. :lol:

"Oh but you know, AC is a different company if you're on a widebody, so it's worth the wait." On one of my last experiences in that abysmal flight deck, I had the pleasure of observing a 22-year guy who was bitchin' about his reserve call out to fly into fog then DH back the entire flight. He was 59 years old and hated it. Sure, this doesn't represent the majority, but it certainly isn't the minority either. But 22 fucking years to make reserve at the helm of the operation. @#$! me, man, that's dedication. Most guys whether they admit to it or hide behind their 'beach-house' image, realize by their 60th bday how fucked they've been compared to their peers who are rolling in money when they come home. Hindsight is always 20-20, and it sucks when you find out your expat peers got to have their cake and eat it too.

I'm so glad I quit that horrible environment. Watch as the responses come through next "slipped through the cracks, good riddance, etc" it all means you're winning, and they're losing, and the sad part is that they don't even know what they don't know.

Please don't humble your opinion holding short, the grass IS greener there which is why you're staying. Speak the truth more so this country full of ken and karen's can be butt hurt over their glory job, so maybe, just MAYBE they can do something about the sad state of affairs after accepting the problems that got them here in the first place. Let's not forget that 35% of Cargojet pilots voted in favor of breaking the new fatigue rules. 35 wholesome fucking percent. That says a lot about where the priorities of Canadian aviators are at. I guess when your "network is your net worth," you get what you pay for.

The funny thing is they always look to the American's with the context of superior WAWCON, but deep down think they're better than the Yankees. Oh, the hypocrisy.

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So here i am as a dinosaur figuring i would see what is happening on avcanada.........

Lots of words flying around I must say, very few that make any sense. This is the new normal apparently.

So.....yes, Canada WAS an aviation leader 40-50-60-70 years ago. Now, and before, one of the major canadian exports were qualified aviation personnel. Not just airplane drivers, everybody.....

And yes, government policy, corporate greed, small brain attitudes and thinking, brought it all down.

Hewers of wood and drawers of water dreamt of being top class of the pile, only to produce a horrible situation.

Hey, I hate the situation, but you have to call a spade a spade.

I wish I had a magic solution. can't even snuff out a politician who could not care less........
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