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Percey · Post by **Percey** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:11 am

I wish there was no such thing as religions...

CID · Post by **CID** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:15 am

priest · Post by **priest** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 11:01 am

Percey wrote:I wish there was no such thing as religions...

Wouldn't it be better to wish for no extremists? Religion itself is not responsible for all the evil, but it's the people who cause the harm.

Saying that religion is the cause of evil is like arguing that "guns kill people."

mellow_pilot · Post by **mellow_pilot** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:43 pm

Guns make it easier for people to kill people, so does religion.

cyyz · Post by **cyyz** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:29 pm

priest wrote:
Percey wrote:I wish there was no such thing as religions...
Wouldn't it be better to wish for no extremists? Religion itself is not responsible for all the evil, but it's the people who cause the harm.

Saying that religion is the cause of evil is like arguing that "guns kill people."

He said "religionS" 1 religion is okay, more then one you have trouble....

CID · Post by **CID** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:34 pm

Yes. One religion. Like Christianity. Which is an offshoot of Judaism. And which is the source of:

African Methodist Episcopal
African Methodist Episcopal Zion
African Orthodox Church
American Baptist Churches USA
Amish
Anabaptist
Anglican Catholic Church
Antiochian Orthodox
Armenian Evangelical Church
Armenian Orthodox
Assemblies of God
Associated Gospel Churches of Canada
Association of Vineyard Churches
Baptist
Baptist Bible Fellowship
Branch Davidian
Brethren in Christ
Bruderhof Communities
Byzantine Catholic Church
Calvary Chapel
Calvinist
Catholic
Cell Church
Celtic Orthodox
Charismatic Episcopal Church
Children of God (COG)
Christadelphian
Christian and Missionary Alliance
Christian Churches of God
Christian Identity
Christian Reformed Church
Christian Science
Church of God (Anderson)
Church of God (Cleveland)
Church of God (Seventh Day)
Church of God in Christ
Church of God of Prophecy
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Church of Scotland
Church of South India
Church of the Brethren
Church of the Lutheran Brethren of America
Church of the Nazarene
Church of the New Jerusalem
Church of the United Brethren in Christ
Church Universal and Triumphant
Churches of Christ
Churches of God General Conference
Congregational Christian Churches
Coptic Orthodox
Cumberland Presbyterian Church
Disciples of Christ
Episcopal
Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church
Evangelical Congregational Church
Evangelical Covenant Church
Evangelical Formosan Church
Evangelical Free Church
Evangelical Lutheran Church
Evangelical Methodist Church
Evangelical Presbyterian
Fellowship of Christian Assemblies
Fellowship of Grace Brethren
Fellowship of Independent Evangelical Churches
Free Church of Scotland
Free Methodist
Free Presbyterian
Free Will Baptist
Gnostic
Great Commission Association of Churches

Greek Orthodox
Hutterian Brethren
Independent Fundamental Churches of America
Indian Orthodox
International Church of the Foursquare Gospel
International Churches of Christ
Jehovah's Witnesses
Living Church of God
Local Church
Lutheran
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod
Mar Thoma Syrian Church
Mennonite
Messianic Judaism
Methodist
Moravian Church
Nation of Yahweh
New Frontiers International
Old Catholic Church
Orthodox
Orthodox Church in America
Orthodox Presbyterian
Pentecostal
Plymouth Brethren
Presbyterian
Presbyterian Church (USA)
Presbyterian Church in America
Primitive Baptist
Protestant Reformed Church
Reformed
Reformed Baptist
Reformed Church in America
Reformed Church in the United States
Reformed Churches of Australia
Reformed Episcopal
Reformed Presbyterian Church
Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints
Revival Centres International
Romanian Orthodox
Rosicrucian
Russian Orthodox
Serbian Orthodox
Seventh Day Baptist
Seventh-Day Adventist
Shaker
Society of Friends
Southern Baptist Convention
Spiritist
Syrian Orthodox
True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days
Unification Church
Unitarian-Universalism
United Church of Canada
United Church of Christ
United Church of God
United Free Church of Scotland
United Methodist Church
United Reformed Church
Uniting Church in Australia
Unity Church
Unity Fellowship Church
Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches
Virtual Churches
Waldensian Church
Way International, The
Web Directories
Wesleyan
Wesleyan Methodist
Worldwide Church of God

I may have missed a few but you get the idea. You'll never get everyone in the world to agree on any single thing much less a religion.

niss · Post by **niss** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 4:59 pm

I thought that Christianity comes from catholosism.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:03 pm

niss wrote:I thought that Christianity comes from catholosism.

Actually you have that backwards

niss · Post by **niss** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:08 pm

There are alot of offshoots!

Dust devil, thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought that christianity came because the king of england wanted a divorce.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:28 pm

niss wrote:There are alot of offshoots!

Dust devil, thanks for clearing that up for me. I thought that christianity came because the king of england wanted a divorce.

Being a christian means that you belive in the teachings of jesus christ. but there are many off shoots of christianity. such as catholosism which is then also broken down into other branches such as the roman cathloc church and the church of england. the church of england or anglican church is the church that was created by the king so that he could have a divorce.

CID · Post by **CID** » Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:22 pm

I think many would be surprised just how intertwined the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths are. We all got split off into different directions because of various new ideas that clashed. In a sense, the three religions come from one.

LH · Post by LH » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:12 am

Christians have killed, murdered, raped, burned-at-the-stake and tortured enough of their own followers over the eons, so they don't need Muslims around to do that. They did just fine without them to date. Tell an Orangman that his daughter is going to marry another member of the Christain faith and that the soon to be son-in-law is a Roman Catholic and watch his reaction..........take-cover first though.

2R · Post by 2R » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:44 am

Religion is proof that god has a sense of humour
After all look at all the goofy fashions that the differing cults have.Everthing from shave your head to never shave ,funny buildings ,and some really funny customs that you cannot look at without laughing.
Jesus Loves You

Guido · Post by **Guido** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:47 pm

CID wrote:I think many would be surprised just how intertwined the Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths are. We all got split off into different directions because of various new ideas that clashed. In a sense, the three religions come from one.

It's interesting that you mention that - at my church we're currently meeting with a group of Muslims from the local Mosque, and had put an invitation out to any Jews in the area (apparently there's no synagogue) for a "Bible Study" where we're looking at the differences and similarities between our respective faiths. It's been really quite enlightening... if you're in the Sarnia area, you're more than welcome to come!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:02 pm

IMNSHO, religions are a vice, not a virtue.

Like any other vice (eg alcohol, tobacco, etc) if taken in small quantities, religion is probably not that harmful to you, or others around you because of your partaking in that particular vice.

However, like quantities of religion may convince you to get a rifle and shoot doctors who may perform abortions, or fly Boeings into buildings, which is not particularly helpful to doctors, Boeings or buildings.

LH · Post by LH » Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:16 pm

Hedley ------ that's the easy-way-out to blame that all on religion. If that's the case, then all the rest of criminal acts can be placed at the doorstep of religion also. Everyone has "choices" everyday of their lives and sometimes we make bad ones. It would be much more truthfull and probably more accurate for a certain percentage of Muslims to just say that they have no use for the US or the West for what they consider past depradations performed on them and that it's now "pay-back time" as far as they are concerned. Instead they use Mohammad and their religion as the scape-goat to give it some validity. We know all about that because we've used religion ourselves as the excuse to perform many horrific acts over the eons and many of those acts had little if anything to do with religion whatsoever.

CID · Post by **CID** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:44 pm

Guido,

Thanks for the invitation. That's certainly a worthwhile and much needed excercise. I wish more people would take the initiative.

You and your congregation deserve a great deal of praise.

Cheers.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:32 pm

South Park Bloody Mary episode. Enough said. People need to get with the times or be left behind.

I'm insulted everytime that I see some asshole Muslim lopping someone's head off on AlJazeera. WTF is up with that? Why don't the "Radical Christains", burn shit up when that happens?

Get a fucking clue

LH · Post by LH » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:16 pm

"Lopping someone's head off" is the same in the Middle Eastern world as hanging is in this part of the world. They consider that more merciful and quick than having someone dangle on the end of a rope until they die. It depends on what part of the world you're from and therefore you view that act based on that. It's done before cameras for Al Jezzara "for effect" because they realize how grossed-out the westerner gets and it's like sticking the knife in and then twisting it for effect. It then terrorizes some and enrages others and with that reported result by the worldwide media, they have had the effect they wanted. That is why they film those actions because it's one thing to read about it and quite another to see it on TV or the Internet. In short, they're "playing with the westerner's mind"..............and getting exactly the results they wanted.

On the other hand (pardon the pun), if you get caught stealing, then you loose one hand. Do it again and someone else gets to pick your nose for you because you can't anymore. Screw around with someone else's wife and you AND her both loose your heads IN PUBLIC in some Main Square of some villiage. I was safer walking down the street in Abu Dhabi, UAR at 2AM ithen I would be in most Canadian cities at 2AM. That is, unless I was caught carrying some liquor on my person and then "my ass would be grass and some authority would be the lawnmower". They ain't big on in-prison "social amenities" like TV's and such in Middle Eastern prisons either. Unlike here, going to prison there has nothing even remotely nice connected with it........and there's no "automatic parole" like other places that we both know of either. It's really too bad that Karla Homulka couldn't have spent her time in prison in the Middle East...........and then "justice" would have been served.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:59 am

Of course your quite correct LH. The difference is they lop peoples heads off because they happen to be not Muslim. I know, I know Christians did that sort of thing in the middle ages so lets not revisit that. The point he was trying to make is the Christian west has moved beyond that and the Muslim world hasn't.
With respect to hanging it's believed by Christians that if someone is hung there is no contact with the earth and therefore the victims sole doesn't ascend to heaven. To further add insult the victims remains are placed in an unmarked graves "face down".

Our old Ontario provincial jail was turned over to the town and they decided to renovate. As they were knocking down walls they made a grisly discovery. They found 3 corpse's entombed in the stone walls face down. Two were convicted murders and one was a 14 year old boy who'd been convicted of thievery commited when he was but 13 and hung. They had a hard time identifing the bodies because the records were lost but eventually did and gave them marked graves and proper head stones.

Some guys are just lucky.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:19 am

Here's a question for you:

Which of the following has created more combined misery for the human race over the years:

Religion, or

Recreational Pharmaceuticals? (eg alcohol, crack, meth, etc)

The answer isn't obvious, is it?

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:07 am

Hedley wrote:Here's a question for you:

Which of the following has created more combined misery for the human race over the years:

Religion, or

Recreational Pharmaceuticals? (eg alcohol, crack, meth, etc)

The answer isn't obvious, is it?

I don't know, but I suspect they're best when used in combination.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:38 am

How many here have watched a beheading close up in the Middle East?

I have and I can assure you it is a quick way to die.

Cat

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:57 am

Cat Driver wrote:How many here have watched a beheading close up in the Middle East?

I have and I can assure you it is a quick way to die.

Cat

And oh so messy

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:30 am

Actually it is not really messy at all.

The executioner severs the head so swiftly and so clean that the torso only pumps about two heart beats of blood and it really does not make all that big a mess...

..and they pick the severed head up by the hair and put it on a stretcher with the body and put it in a truck and in less than two minutes its all over.

We lived in the Red Sea Palace hotel in Jeddah for several months and the execution slab was just up the street at the Mosque and quite visiable from our windows if we chose to watch. But for a real look at the process a short walk to the Mosque was the answer.

There were weekly executions at 10: AM sharp every Friday and ocassionaly on Tuesdays.

Cat