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airway wrote:Could somebody refresh us on the pros and cons of the Dash-8 (classic or Q400) VS the ATR for northern flying?

Here is a great article comparing the two:

http://theflyingengineer.com/aircraft/p ... -vs-atr72/
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Have any Q's been combi'd?
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Very informative article Airway, thanks!
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Don't worry people the competition bureau will never let this one through. So both airlines can keep on chasing the same crackers.
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palebird wrote:Don't worry people the competition bureau will never let this one through. So both airlines can keep on chasing the same crackers.

I'd take that bet - and I'd even give you odds. :drinkers:
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palebird wrote:Don't worry people the competition bureau will never let this one through. So both airlines can keep on chasing the same crackers.

I think you have the wrong reception of the competition bureau. If these companies prove which they will the routes they compete on are losing money they will NOT block this. I say it will go ahead as the competition bureau focus is unfair competition. They are not there to police if consumers are getting screwed.
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godsrcrazy wrote:
palebird wrote:Don't worry people the competition bureau will never let this one through. So both airlines can keep on chasing the same crackers.

I think you have the wrong reception of the competition bureau. If these companies prove which they will the routes they compete on are losing money they will NOT block this. I say it will go ahead as the competition bureau focus is unfair competition. They are not there to police if consumers are getting screwed.
Lets be clear. Just because prices are going to go up, doesn't mean the consumer is getting screwed. Right now they are getting artificially low fares due to both companies undercutting each other and operating at a loss in order to keep traffic. If they merged operations I doubt they would go and gouge the communities since ultimately the communities own the airlines. However fares would increase so the merged airline could make a reasonable yield on the routes.

I'm sure the average Joe will think he's getting screwed, but just because you live in the middle of nowhere does not entitle you to air service at prices that put airlines out of business.
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Don't see any artificially low prices on any of the northern routes these two operate. You could even speculate on price fixing. Just saying. And the fact that they are both owned by northern beneficiaries and people seem to think that they will operate at a loss to haul family members around like a taxi service...well that just shows sheer ignorance.
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Any update on the merger talks ?
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dhc# wrote:Any update on the merger talks ?
They're still talking. It's going to be a long process. Think months/years by the time it's all done.

No change at either airline in daily operations for quite awhile, at least into 2015.
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dhc# wrote:Any update on the merger talks ?
Still in the due diligence phase, i.e. NorTerra and Makivik negotiating. Probably another few months.
Gov't / Agency approvals probably 6-8 months.
If the merger is approved, probable merger will start mid 2015.
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LOL it's like the drama of general hospital hooking up with the Young & the restless!
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