Windsor Flying Club 172 down in Nashville.

[cncpc]

I don't wish pain or death on anyone, but hailing from the small town of Windsor, I have some associations with his past actions, and they were terrible. He was far beyond rehabilitation, and now he won't terrorise anyone anymore. He caused lifelong scars, grief and anguish for many people.

Exactly. Yet some of the supposedly large offended group don't consider this at all and for some reason are more concerned about the criminal. Shame. If only they could guarantee us that they would be the only future victims. I guarantee you if that could somehow be predicted, their opinions would change but instead for some strange reason, are willing to have policies that will likely result in more victims but the odds are small that it will be themselves.

Sorry that this got political but there are real people, innocent people that have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

Please get over being offended and reconsider.

I think you greatly exaggerate the value people here put on your "contributions" and you think people look to you for moral direction. Get over yourself, it ain't that way at all.

A mentally ill man is dead. He was a pilot. I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees you in a different light than you and Dan WEC do.

It's a very poor argumentative tactic to make a cartoon image of your detractors/betters and go back to saying they "...are more concerned about 'the criminal'" or that they should get over "...being offended". People disagree with you and they are much better people than you are. A better analysis, a better understanding of what the real issues are, and possessed of a disdain for the type of posts you have made in this thread.

[pelmet]

I don't wish pain or death on anyone, but hailing from the small town of Windsor, I have some associations with his past actions, and they were terrible. He was far beyond rehabilitation, and now he won't terrorise anyone anymore. He caused lifelong scars, grief and anguish for many people.

Exactly. Yet some of the supposedly large offended group don't consider this at all and for some reason are more concerned about the criminal. Shame. If only they could guarantee us that they would be the only future victims. I guarantee you if that could somehow be predicted, their opinions would change but instead for some strange reason, are willing to have policies that will likely result in more victims but the odds are small that it will be themselves.

Sorry that this got political but there are real people, innocent people that have to live with this for the rest of their lives.

Please get over being offended and reconsider.

I think you greatly exaggerate the value people here put on your "contributions" and you think people look to you for moral direction. Get over yourself, it ain't that way at all.

A mentally ill man is dead. He was a pilot. I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees you in a different light than you and Dan WEC do.

It's a very poor argumentative tactic to make a cartoon image of your detractors/betters and go back to saying they "...are more concerned about 'the criminal'" or that they should get over "...being offended". People disagree with you and they are much better people than you are. A better analysis, a better understanding of what the real issues are, and possessed of a disdain for the type of posts you have made in this thread.

As Dan said...

hailing from the small town of Windsor, I have some associations with his past actions, and they were terrible. He was far beyond rehabilitation, and now he won't terrorise anyone anymore. He caused lifelong scars, grief and anguish for many people.

Your statements "Get over yourself", of who looks to me for moral direction, of how much value I place on my contributions, of who is better than me, and of what the "real issues" are just words with nothing to back them up so far and in reality, is meaningless to the discussion and to be honest, completely ridiculous.

The real world reality of facts is that you have expressed significant concern for the man who left "lifelong scars, grief, and anguish on for many people" and not one word of concern mentioned about the victims. Sadly, that is not unexpected. You stated in your post that he is a pilot, as if that somehow changes anything(although his incompetence as a pilot doesn't add anything positive to his character). I am comfortable in where my sympathies lie and I don't plan on changing them.

To quote Dan again "hailing from the small town of Windsor, I have some associations with his past actions, and they were terrible. He was far beyond rehabilitation, and now he won't terrorise anyone anymore. He caused lifelong scars, grief and anguish for many people."

And to be clear, a violent criminal is dead.

[pdw]

With a mental illness/health issue, it's still a choice to perform a criminal act.

For those in the know about M I :
What kind of "mental health issue" ?
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Take for instance the Atrial Sceptal Defect is now studied for its mental health connection (right atrium begins to expand early 20's / doesn't know). That's an opening between atriums when big enough doesn't 'murmur', if at least medium size / 1cm, thus more likely to escape detection after the birth and sometimes onwards in age. Most of the time an ASD grows closed when born, so blood-flow can no longer take the shortcut ( then some blood flows back around to lung back through the ASD ) that also served as bypass around the developing lung when not yet working / still in the womb. Once grown closed, all blood empties/pressures into arteries 100% as it should. When not, the opening's effects can be an increasingly futile situation as the person has no clue how/why the symptoms.

Supposedly, ASD has affected 10-20% of population in some way. The direct effect is simply less blood flow up at the noggin & extremities due to that shunting through the ASD opening into right side atrium which receives return-flow entering back from veins (the inflow side of the heart). Amount shunting into right side atrium depends on level of activity/stress and size of opening. e.g. The one centimeter width opening is about the medium size which is not as detectable in checkups where patient relaxes. The blood-filled right-side atrium inhibits/limits the left-to-right shunting to some extent so that spillover each time left-side contracts is minimized and ASD effect that-way masks itself fairly well when at a steadied heartrate, a steady circulation at low stress levels.

A blood alchohol level in sufferers would increases blood flow to arteries without increasing the shunting since blood-viscosity thru the ASD opening has no effect on shunted volume [report: was at/near legal limit]. Some afflicted volks might figure on their own that booze helps their 'thinking' as it boosts bloodflow to brain arteries. Later when booze wears off (even from smaller amounts) it's right back to lowest blood-flow when zero trace of alcohol is left (few days) ... back to increased shunting / less circulation with potential for some skips / irregular flow in process of getting back to 'normal'.

If A.S.D is there, then merely sitting increases the flow to brain arteries than standing/walking .. much more than in non-sufferers ... so here it's true .. that any PPL training is mostly done when seated. When the sufferer's adrenalin flows, the heart pumps more briskly .. a lot faster/longer than normal ... for sustaining rapid circulation for the oxygen demand throughout the body. Considering 'the level of nastiness one would expect in a holdup' -- this article says "unpleasant" etc, that it "went way beyond that".
Here in exerting the aggressive behaviour described (while standing up), inside the kind of power trip a robbery truly is, it's possible an A.S.D makes that mood/exertion much worse.

"Was disappointed" when turned down for an Airforce training program and then the article also says "muscular" and did "weight lifting". Then there must have been some fitness before trying out for the dream military experience, no? Then how come he was rejected from that program ?