Barkley-Grow
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Back a few pages, AP wanted to have a look at the photos of my mother's first flight. She was travelling from Grande Prairie to Edmonton. Ran into them last night and remembered, so here they are.
I think it was probably December of 1939.
I think it was probably December of 1939.
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fleetcanuck wrote:Back a few pages, AP wanted to have a look at the photos of my mother's first flight. She was travelling from Grande Prairie to Edmonton. Ran into them last night and remembered, so here they are.
I think it was probably December of 1939.
Now those are classy pics of a nice lady and nice old aircraft.
Thanks,
AP
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Canuck_Plumber wrote:Hey all,
It's been a while since I passed by this way. Great to see the new photos posted here.
I thought I would do the same as well.
The first photo is of the founders of the Barkley Grow Aircraft Corp. Archie Barkley far right and Commander Harold Grow standing on his right. I've yet to learn who the other two gentlemen are.
Butts family (1 of 1) by jaeson cardiff, on Flickr
The next pic is of CF-BVE as it sits in the Reynolds Museum collection. This is the first prototype built by the company in 1937.
Thanks,
Nice to see this rare old bird inside.
AP
Reynolds (1 of 1)-8 by jaeson cardiff, on Flickr
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Now there's a name I haven't heard since the 70's..... Howard Hawley aka Huff 'n Puff. Last time I saw him was at Lambs on -3's.
Antique Pilot wrote:Great old pics of BMW. Do you have any info on the pics other than the pilot Tom Laurie?
BMW was written off while landing on skis at Bigstone Lake MB on March 12, 1965. On short final the left hand flap popped up. The aircraft rolled to the left and struck the ice in a left wing low nose down attitude. Pilot Howard Hawley was seriously injured.
Useable parts and pieces were recovered and taken to Northland's base at Netley MB.
AP
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Thanks AP. I was very fortunate to be her son! If I find more details of the flight, I will post them.
It looks like they did not shut down for passenger loading. Safety, comfort, schedule.....hmmmm, priorities! They were different times indeed.
It looks like they did not shut down for passenger loading. Safety, comfort, schedule.....hmmmm, priorities! They were different times indeed.
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Here's one for the books..taken some time in 1957 at Edmonton Muni. Very old slides do not copy very well.
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Or maybe this,,,Spartan's P-38 Lightning taken at Greenwood, NS in 1955
Spartan had a couple of Wooden Wonders at Edmonton Muni about 1958
Spartan had a couple of Wooden Wonders at Edmonton Muni about 1958
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Thank you for the great photos of the Spartan aircraft.
My farthers first job coming from the Coal Branch was working on these aircraft and others of Spartans until he transfered to the Helicopter
division which he stayed with to the Kenting days.
He talked many times of his days of Spartan's P38, Mosy, Lancaster and Ansens,
Lots of raw fingers sanding on wood repairs.
Sadly he passed in March he would of loved to see those slides.
do you have any more of Spartans a/c?
Sorry for the drift on the Barkley,
I played as a kid in the Barkley and the other old A/C hanging around when I was a hangar rat.
My farthers first job coming from the Coal Branch was working on these aircraft and others of Spartans until he transfered to the Helicopter
division which he stayed with to the Kenting days.
He talked many times of his days of Spartan's P38, Mosy, Lancaster and Ansens,
Lots of raw fingers sanding on wood repairs.
Sadly he passed in March he would of loved to see those slides.
do you have any more of Spartans a/c?
Sorry for the drift on the Barkley,
I played as a kid in the Barkley and the other old A/C hanging around when I was a hangar rat.
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Very old slides do not copy very well.
Barney
Don't give up on those old slides yet Barney, a little post processing can sometimes do wonders - lo and behold, the hangar doors are actually green...
Art
Barney
Don't give up on those old slides yet Barney, a little post processing can sometimes do wonders - lo and behold, the hangar doors are actually green...
Art
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Trying to track down user 'Dibbley' to seek permission from him to publish one of his photos of Barkley-Grow CF-BTX behind Coulson's hangar at Port Alberni in the 1990s for an upcoming article in Propliner magazine. I was in touch with Jaeson Cardiff of the splendid Barkley-Grow Facebook page who recommended this site. Dibbley doesn't seem to have been active on the forums since 2014, but hope someone may know how to contact him. Many thanks!
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Off topic, but if anyone is interested in the story of Spartan Air Services there's a book on the subject. Spartan, Seven Letters That Spanned The Globe, by Norm Avery. The book is seven years old, so it may be out of print. Larry Milberry at CanAv Books could probably rustle up a copy or two.
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You have my permission to use those pictures for that purpose.topsham wrote:Trying to track down user 'Dibbley' to seek permission from him to publish one of his photos of Barkley-Grow CF-BTX behind Coulson's hangar at Port Alberni in the 1990s for an upcoming article in Propliner magazine. I was in touch with Jaeson Cardiff of the splendid Barkley-Grow Facebook page who recommended this site. Dibbley doesn't seem to have been active on the forums since 2014, but hope someone may know how to contact him. Many thanks!
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Thank you Dibbley for granting permission to publish the photo at Coulson's!
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Feb 27, 2017
Barkley Grow CF-BMW and a Norseman.
Found on the internet.
Photographer not known.
Location not know.
Date taken not know.
Barkley Grow CF-BMW and a Norseman.
Found on the internet.
Photographer not known.
Location not know.
Date taken not know.
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March 13, 2017
Barkley Grow CF-BMW at Fort Nelson September 1941.
Photo found on the internet.
Photographer not known.
Barkley Grow CF-BMW at Fort Nelson September 1941.
Photo found on the internet.
Photographer not known.
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Video of it flying on floats. Starts at 18:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEobHZO ... e=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEobHZO ... e=youtu.be
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you!
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April 5, 2017
Barkley Grow CF-BLV
Photo found on the internet.
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Barkley Grow CF-BLV
Photo found on the internet.
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Location or date taken not known.
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Always great to poke my head back in here after a while. Glad to see folks still contributing.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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The video that Blakey posted earlier with the Barkley Grow on floats being identified by the narrator, is actually a beech 18. The Barkley Grow rudders have a fin sticking out of them horizontally and the beech has no fin sticking out of the rudder. Also the shape of the nose is different along with the shape of the nacelles.
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Good catch. Poster "Beech 18" pointed that out to me in a PM.bobo wrote:The video that Blakey posted earlier with the Barkley Grow on floats being identified by the narrator, is actually a beech 18. The Barkley Grow rudders have a fin sticking out of them horizontally and the beech has no fin sticking out of the rudder. Also the shape of the nose is different along with the shape of the nacelles.
Cheers AP
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Aug 28, 2017
Barkley Grow at Ft. St John was the only information with the picture.
No story with the photo.
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Barkley Grow at Ft. St John was the only information with the picture.
No story with the photo.
Found on the internet.
Date taken not known.
Photographer not known.
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[quote=Blakey post_id=995327 time=1491091378 user_id=3243]
Video of it flying on floats. Starts at 18:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEobHZO ... e=youtu.be
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Confirmation of post #142: this aircraft mentioned is a Beech S18B c/n 173 registered N18569 christianed -Kofresi-.
Have a look here
http://theoregonchristensens.com/oldplanes/page3.html
and scroll to the middle!
The Barkley-Grow T8P-1 is an airplane, which is very often confused with other similar aircraft!
Martin
Video of it flying on floats. Starts at 18:20.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEobHZO ... e=youtu.be
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Confirmation of post #142: this aircraft mentioned is a Beech S18B c/n 173 registered N18569 christianed -Kofresi-.
Have a look here
http://theoregonchristensens.com/oldplanes/page3.html
and scroll to the middle!
The Barkley-Grow T8P-1 is an airplane, which is very often confused with other similar aircraft!
Martin
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I have a photo of CF-BLV in my collection, that was given to me by an old Commissionaire at Moose Jaw but no way of posting it.
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I took this shot in October 1979 shortly after the aircraft arrived in YYC. I recall that it was moved by road from Chestermere and Roy Staniland played a major role in having it moved to YYC. I hope this picture helps.
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