Open the door, no thanks

[Heliian]

I heard something on the news yesterday though which left me wondering if the news person was right. He said that the border closure between the US and Canada for non essential travel only applied to people crossing over by land. He claimed that it didn't apply to anyone travelling by air. So if some Texan corona cowboy wanted to jump on a flight to Canada for a vacation he could totally do so. Anyone know if this is correct?

No, that is incorrect, it doesn't matter if you come in be land, air, sea or spaceship. If you don't have a valid reason you will be turned away. A port of entry is a port of entry.

[Launchpad1]

Thanks for that, I was sure what you're both saying is correct.

Just remembered it wasn't the news guy who said it, it was some so called aviation expert they were interviewing. It was in regards to Westjet saying they are going to be flying to some destinations in the US in August.

[Posthumane]

While US citizens can not enter Canada for non-essential travel by either land or air, this has been shown to not be the case for Canadians going to the US. While people were turned away at land borders, there have been numerous people still travelling to the US by air. Various news sites covered the discrepancy about a month ago.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/u-s-tr ... -1.5607741

[flyguy73]

I say charge left wing NYC mayor who was running for the nomination for president for the Dems. Also charge Nancy Pelosi and every one of her enablers with a minimum amount of 50,000 deaths.

This news report below is almost a full month after Trump put in the measure to restrict flights from China(Jan 31) with a local biased reporter enamored over Nancy's feel good actions....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c

Here is an article about what the left wing mayor of NYC said as the virus got worse and worse...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ronavirus/

You can read this article as well after Trump restricted flights from China......
https://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/c ... 1.41650522
Also in this report, a statement from the governor people like Rockie call a hero....."Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo on Friday urged New Yorkers to keep the threat of virus in perspective. "We went through this before: Zika virus, Ebola, et cetera. But let's have some connection to the reality of the situation," he said. "Catching the flu right now is a much greater risk than anything that has anything to do with coronavirus."

Here is a tweet with a good video to watch on March 10 from the wonderful Democrat mayor of NYC about his wife named Chirlane Mccray(who is described as an activist on Wikipedia) visiting a restaurant to show how open and accommodating they are and of course, how racist the rest of us are by doing what I did. Yes folks, I had plenty of layovers in NYC and it was in Flushing right in Chinatown. Do you think I would have gone out to a Chinese market/restaurant at that time. But the mayor and his activist wife would call anybody on March 11 having my opinion as a racist. This is the mindset of these people, and now...they are defunding the police.

https://twitter.com/nycmayor/status/123 ... 36?lang=en

So why does Rockie say what he says? Because he is a fraud, just like all his radical supporters wanting a revolution. Maybe we should charge Rockie.

If that’s what you guys do for sport you aren’t very good at it.

....wait for it....

Done.

Again with the inaccuracies. Bill de Blasio is the mayor of New York, but he wasn't running as a candidate for the presidency. Michael Bloomberg was the mayor of NYC until 2013 and was running as candidate, but he had nothing to do with this coronavirus or any deaths in NYC long-term care homes. You really need to understand the news before you comment on it. It's kind of like Trump blaming Obama for all the broken COVID-19 tests. There was no coronavirus in 2016, so how could Obama be involved?

It is comical that you are blaming the current Governor of NY and Mayor of NYC for comments that were made following the advice of the President who downplayed the virus. The President has the expertise of the CDC, NIH, FDA, Homeland Security, etc, etc, all telling him that the coronavirus should be taken seriously, yet he continued to say stupid things like it will "go away, like a miracle". The Cuomo and de Blasio have none of these resources, but can only repeat what his Supreme Leader says (based on what they assume was good advice), yet you jump on them? Come on already and smarten up! Who's the real criminal here?

[tsgarp]

What they should be talking about is charging Trump and every one of his enablers at every level of government with a minimum of 50,000 counts of criminal negligence causing death. Every person that needlessly dies from this day on should be added to the list.

Sure, as long as the Democrat Govs who forced nursing homes to take COVID19 patients get charged with first degree murder......

[goldeneagle]

The President has the expertise of the CDC, NIH, FDA, Homeland Security, etc, etc, all telling him that the coronavirus should be taken seriously, yet he continued to say stupid things like it will "go away, like a miracle".

It will go away like a miracle.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5024805

Starting Wednesday, hospitals are no longer to send data to the CDC, instead, it is to go to the White House and will no longer be available to the public.

Just watch, like magic, the numbers will now start to drop at an amazing pace....

[flyguy73]

The President has the expertise of the CDC, NIH, FDA, Homeland Security, etc, etc, all telling him that the coronavirus should be taken seriously, yet he continued to say stupid things like it will "go away, like a miracle".

It will go away like a miracle.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.5024805

Starting Wednesday, hospitals are no longer to send data to the CDC, instead, it is to go to the White House and will no longer be available to the public.

Just watch, like magic, the numbers will now start to drop at an amazing pace....

Exactly.

[Rockie]

They’re killing their own people, now they’re going to cover it up, and not a single Republican has the testicles to even protest much less stop it. What a useless, criminal bunch of invertebrates.

[iflyforpie]

I guess the CDC will have to swap to a “COVID burden estimate” just like they’ve done with every previous ILI, ever.

[455tt]

"You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." - Winston Churchill

[Capt. Underpants]

This is what you get when a nation thinks with their bank accounts first. Americans hate paying taxes so much, they’d rather see millions of their fellows die than pay one cent more in tax. All because a bunch of radicals dumped tea into Boston harbour.

[pelmet]

Again with the inaccuracies. Bill de Blasio is the mayor of New York, but he wasn't running as a candidate for the presidency. Michael Bloomberg was the mayor of NYC until 2013 and was running as candidate, but he had nothing to do with this coronavirus or any deaths in NYC long-term care homes. You really need to understand the news before you comment on it.

Buddy , I understand the news way better than you. You just make yourself look foolish when you admonish someone for not knowing the news when you actually prove your lack of knowledge of it. So, for your knowledge about Bill de Blasio officially running for president, read this from NBC......

"2020 ELECTIONS
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio drops out of race for 2020 Democratic presidential nomination"

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/20/new-yor ... -race.html

By the way...less than 1% support from his party. Not hard to see why.

It is comical that you are blaming the current Governor of NY and Mayor of NYC for comments that were made following the advice of the President who downplayed the virus. The President has the expertise of the CDC, NIH, FDA, Homeland Security, etc, etc, all telling him that the coronavirus should be taken seriously, yet he continued to say stupid things like it will "go away, like a miracle". The Cuomo and de Blasio have none of these resources, but can only repeat what his Supreme Leader says (based on what they assume was good advice), yet you jump on them? Come on already and smarten up! Who's the real criminal here?

What is comical is that Trump gets blame from you for any downplaying but the Dem leaders get none despite all the evidence I showed you. Actually it is pathetic. Governor Cuomo actually had the incredible stupidity to put coronavirus patients into old folks homes when hospitals were overflowing and barely even used that big ship that Trump brought up to New York in record time. What would you and Rockie say if Trump had done that? Demand criminal prosecution no doubt. But...it was a Dem governor and mayor so no problem....he must be a hero. As if they had no info from the CDC or other agencies when the mayors stupid wife was meeting in March in the restaurant as seen in the video. And I was smart enough to avoid areas likely to have Chinese foreign nationals hanging out(Chinese markets back in February, so a mayor of one of the world's largest cities and the speaker of the house should know better as well(and not encourage such activity), in between their accusations of racism.

But as we have seen, you have proven that you are the one with much less knowledge about the news, so I am not surprised.

[shimmydampner]

Another really fun aviation thread. Cool. Cool cool cool.

[Rockie]

And I was smart enough to avoid areas likely to have Chinese foreign nationals hanging out

Good thinking Pelmet. Everybody knows only Chinese foreign nationals fly from China, and additional kudos for knowing where they hang out. If half of us were as gobsmacking smart as you we wouldn't be in the mess.

[mixturerich]

“If you’re going to do something, do it right.”

When Trump put the governors in charge whilst simultaneously politicizing the whole situation (most notably the wearing of masks), I knew America was doomed. Now they are paying the price for doing it so wrong.

And I was smart enough to avoid areas likely to have Chinese foreign nationals hanging out

Good thinking Pelmet. Everybody knows only Chinese foreign nationals fly from China, and additional kudos for knowing where they hang out. If everybody were as gobsmacking smart as you we wouldn't be in the mess.

Way for pelmet to lose any scrap of credibility of credibility he had left lol. Jeez. If that’s a real quote of his, I am flabbergasted.

[tsgarp]

And I was smart enough to avoid areas likely to have Chinese foreign nationals hanging out

Good thinking Pelmet. Everybody knows only Chinese foreign nationals fly from China, and additional kudos for knowing where they hang out. If half of us were as gobsmacking smart as you we wouldn't be in the mess.

Perhaps if the world had closed their borders with the CHICOMS we wouldn’t be in this mess.

[Rockie]

You’re either 13 years old or 85, it’s impossible to tell which.

[pelmet]

And I was smart enough to avoid areas likely to have Chinese foreign nationals hanging out

Good thinking Pelmet. Everybody knows only Chinese foreign nationals fly from China, and additional kudos for knowing where they hang out. If everybody were as gobsmacking smart as you we wouldn't be in the mess.

Way for pelmet to lose any scrap of credibility of credibility he had left lol. Jeez. If that’s a real quote of his, I am flabbergasted.

Is it any surprise that Rockie and his supporter on this thread would have no clue that places like Chinatown locations would have a lot of visitors from China.

And yes folks, back in February/March when details of this pandemic were very little, I decided to avoid areas more likely to have visitors from China as that is where the disease was. Italy was added to the list later and now the US is on the list(among others). Funny how people were racists for doing the former but not the latter.

So yeah, I avoided the areas where I figured people from these areas were likely to be. Using the earliest example of China back in February, would anybody be surprised to discover that people in Chinatown have relatives visiting from the old country who would likely go to the local restaurants(locations that still have serious restrictions due to the virus). Rockie might be surprised, but intelligent people would not. Would it be surprising to anybody top know that Chinese visitors frequently go to Chinese restaurants over here. Would it be a surprise to discover that major North American Chinese New Year celebrations might have a significant amount of visitors from China. Oh well, Nancy Pelosi and Bill de Blasio were more concerned about the local votes and promoting the racism card(as evidenced in my earlier links) than lives of thousands.

Would it surprise someone to find an Italian visitor in an Italian food store. I seem to hear Italian accents and language when I visit one and there are strong ties to the old country like many of the rest of us. So yeah, my favourite local Italian store was avoided by me for a while during those days in March and later on.

Yes Rockie, there are plenty of Chinese visitors in Chinatown and Chinese food stores in places like New York, SFO, Vancouver, etc. I know that likely comes as a surprise to you which is no surprise to me.

So I have a lot more credibility that you and Mixturerich.

Below is a link from the Chinese consulate in Canada about Canadian Chinatown appealing for Chinese tourists.
http://vancouver.china-consulate.org/en ... 674524.htm

[Rockie]

Is it any surprise that Rockie and his supporter on this thread

I have supporters? Dammit you guys...you gotta start inviting me to the meetings!

[mmm..bacon]

Yes Rockie, there are plenty of Chinese visitors in Chinatown and Chinese food stores in places like New York, SFO, Vancouver, etc. I know that likely comes as a surprise to you which is no surprise to me.

So I have a lot more credibility that you and Mixturerich.

Below is a link from the Chinese consulate in Canada about Canadian Chinatown appealing for Chinese tourists.
http://vancouver.china-consulate.org/en ... 674524.htm

Interestingly though, to the best of my knowledge, neither Chinatown, nor Richmond in greater Vancouver had a huge spike in CV cases, despite their ties to China..

[pelmet]

Is it any surprise that Rockie and his supporter on this thread

I have supporters? Dammit you guys...you gotta start inviting me to the meetings!

You will notice I used the singular form if you take the time to re-read it.

[pelmet]

Yes Rockie, there are plenty of Chinese visitors in Chinatown and Chinese food stores in places like New York, SFO, Vancouver, etc. I know that likely comes as a surprise to you which is no surprise to me.

So I have a lot more credibility that you and Mixturerich.

Below is a link from the Chinese consulate in Canada about Canadian Chinatown appealing for Chinese tourists.
http://vancouver.china-consulate.org/en ... 674524.htm

Interestingly though, to the best of my knowledge, neither Chinatown, nor Richmond in greater Vancouver had a huge spike in CV cases, despite their ties to China..

That may be true but it was impossible for me to know at the time how the inevitable spread would manifest itself. One just has to make a reasonable guess.

[Rockie]

Is it any surprise that Rockie and his supporter on this thread

I have supporters? Dammit you guys...you gotta start inviting me to the meetings!

You will notice I used the singular form if you take the time to re-read it.

I did read it, you said supporter on this thread. Surely I must have at least one other supporter on another thread which would make it two.

Call me an optimist...and I'm still waiting for an invite to the meetings.

[mixturerich]

And pelmet doubles down!! proclaiming his superior intelligence and credibility over us, because he avoided Chinese people at the beginning. Priceless.

[tsgarp]

You’re either 13 years old or 85, it’s impossible to tell which.

That’s not relevant to the point at hand. Had the CHICOMs been honest about COVID, and had the rest of the world isolated them quickly enough, we wouldn’t be in this mess. You can argue that point if you want, but you’ll loose.

It’s really cute to watch all the ‘progressives’, who wanted open borders and globalization, express such enthusiasm for closing borders now. Really shows the general lack of principles in the group. They are essentially bigots that hate Americans.