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Are you vaccinated?

Yes, first dose only.
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Yes, both doses .
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No, not yet.
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No, and I don't plan to.
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notwhoyouthinkIam
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Re: Are you vaccinated?

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albertdesalvo wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:03 pm I believe the reference is to the vaccination of jail inmates, who won't be infecting anyone but themselves. And the jail staff.

Since social distancing in a jail is impossible, it makes sense to vaccinate as many inmates as possible, otherwise you are looking at a thousand people at once becoming infected, and all the attendant health care problems and costs that are attached to that scenario.
Exactly.

When someone is incarcerated, it is the responsibility of the captor to provide a safe and sanitary living condition. Part of that responsibility is making sure that the risk of a disease outbreak is managed.
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:42 am I don’t like the fact that they are indirectly forcing people to take it. They were offering ice cream to 12 year olds in Toronto recently to entice children. The MRNA vaccines bother me. If you read into them they mess with your immune system. Who’s to say what will happen when China “accidentally” releases the next Covid and your immune system is now modified to not fight it?

It’s your body and your choice. I’ll leave it at that.
Dude you have been watching to many movies.
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Ice cream? So 20th C. If you want my kids to do anything offer them Robux. They’d sell their parents for 800.
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photofly wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:17 am Ice cream? So 20th C. If you want my kids to do anything offer them Robux. They’d sell their parents for 800.
I had to look up what that was. I'm getting old.
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Wonderland is opening! Masks required... this is crazy... why are they allowed to open? They should make the rule proof of both vaccines, double masks, and no kids under 12 until they can get vaccinated.

This is utter lunacy the government is going to allow this unsafe gong show to open. They have rules like no screaming on coasters to prevent the spread but who is going to police that? Obviously people will scream. Covid will go everywhere...

Write your MPs... we need to stop this. I’m so sick of these people who are putting business before lives. It doesn’t matter if we close wonderland for another year we just need to make things safe. That should be the first priority.
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montado wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:53 am Wonderland is opening! Masks required... this is crazy... why are they allowed to open? They should make the rule proof of both vaccines, double masks, and no kids under 12 until they can get vaccinated.

This is utter lunacy the government is going to allow this unsafe gong show to open. They have rules like no screaming on coasters to prevent the spread but who is going to police that? Obviously people will scream. Covid will go everywhere...

Write your MPs... we need to stop this. I’m so sick of these people who are putting business before lives. It doesn’t matter if we close wonderland for another year we just need to make things safe. That should be the first priority.
Blindfolds are required to ride the roller coasters. If you can’t see, you are less likely to be scared and therefore scream, spewing deadly Delta variants everywhere.
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The stupidity of policy puts people in harms way. A cashier is dead at a grocery store in America after a dispute over masks.

You literally have a country with a surplus of vaccine. Vaccines are so plentiful I could book one for just about any time, any day, and even choose my flavour. The experts are saying masks are not required once vaccinated yet some private business are choosing to enforce this policy.

This poor freaking cashier probably making a very minimal wage is probably just trying to enforce the rules of the store where she works, escalates until she is shot and killed. Just insane.

I think it’s completely idiotic to be enforcing these ridiculous policies. Should this be surprising... pin everyone against each other, virtue signalling, social distancing. Was this worth it? I guess masks saved millions so this was just a casualty in the crossfire right?
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I find it completely bizarre that some of the the same people whom are against getting the vaccine will either smoke or eat hot dogs.
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How do you smoke a hot dog?
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trey kule wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:13 pm How do you smoke a hot dog?
I recommend this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH55ZFfbrD0
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Check it check it. Canada will be the most vaccinated country in the world. What does this make us? The most compliant? The most restricted? The smartest in the world or the most naive?

Rumour has it the truth was we were just tired of our shitty and expensive telecoms and the 5G for the fully vax really kicks in. My shoulder is glowing neon green and got full bars on the phone.

Crazy that there’s no relationship between vaccines and restrictions... anyone else think we should open things up? Even those liberal Democrats in California have taken down all restrictions. LETSSS GOOOOOO! People keep shouting this so I’m going to start this too. I don’t know what it means... but I think if you keep yelling “let’s go” the idea is more people will get the jab and things will open up... is it working? LETSSSS GOOOOOOO! :roll:
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Interesting article discussing U.S. breakthrough cases.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defe ... ugh-cases/

A Pentagon study found that the flu shot increases the risks from coronavirus by 36%. “Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as “virus interference…’vaccine derived’ virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus…” So it's advisable not to get a flu shot this fall.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... via%3Dihub

News from Chile - one of most vaccinated countries.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 021-06-10/

Myocarditis in men may be as high as 1 in 3000
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/06 ... vJ8sQZPbnY
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Where did the article you strategically quoted say that it's not advisable to get a flu shot?
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Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
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shimmydampner wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:09 am Where did the article you strategically quoted say that it's not advisable to get a flu shot?
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Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
This article is better in explaining and includes references to other studies showing that the flu shot increases your odds of getting sick.
https://fort-russ.com/2020/04/kennedy-p ... eres-more/
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deadbear wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:22 am
shimmydampner wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:09 am Where did the article you strategically quoted say that it's not advisable to get a flu shot?
Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
This article is better in explaining and includes references to other studies showing that the flu shot increases your odds of getting sick.
https://fort-russ.com/2020/04/kennedy-p ... eres-more/
Article written by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr!? One of the biggest anti-vaccine advocate?
No bias there for sure.... loooool
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deadbear wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:22 am
shimmydampner wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:09 am Where did the article you strategically quoted say that it's not advisable to get a flu shot?
Conclusions
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population.
This article is better in explaining and includes references to other studies showing that the flu shot increases your odds of getting sick.
https://fort-russ.com/2020/04/kennedy-p ... eres-more/
Or you could actually look at the science.

"On the other hand, recently published studies have described the phenomenon of vaccine-associated virus interference; that is, vaccinated individuals may be at increased risk for other respiratory viruses because they do not receive the non-specific immunity associated with natural infection"

"Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. (born January 17, 1954) is an American anti-vaccine advocate, conspiracy theorist, author, and environmental lawyer. He is the chairman of Children's Health Defense, an anti-vaccine advocacy group"

You can either not get vaccinated against anything and take your chances, or get vaccinated against all the pathogens that can kill you. Check out the risk of death or hospitalization for getting vaccinated against influenza and covid-19 vs not for your age group and health risk profile. It's really not a difficult exercise. If you can pass your PPL exams you can figure it out.
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Article written by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr!? One of the biggest anti-vaccine advocate?
No bias there for sure.... loooool
This guy is not against vaccines, he just wants them to be better tested and studied. And he just wants alternatives to be used when they are available. Therefore, he's now call an antivax by all the provax people and the mainstream medias...
It's really sad today we have to be pro or anti something, we cannot discuss anymore or we are called conspiracy theorists.
We must be careful that the labels "conspiracy theorist" or "anti something" do not serve to disqualify those who ask good questions.
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pecessix wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:57 pm
Article written by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr!? One of the biggest anti-vaccine advocate?
No bias there for sure.... loooool
This guy is not against vaccines, he just wants them to be better tested and studied. And he just wants alternatives to be used when they are available. Therefore, he's now call an antivax by all the provax people and the mainstream medias...
It's really sad today we have to be pro or anti something, we cannot discuss anymore or we are called conspiracy theorists.
We must be careful that the labels "conspiracy theorist" or "anti something" do not serve to disqualify those who ask good questions.
Nope not an anti-vaxxer at all...

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireS ... n-75830042

The man is an idiot that trades on his family name.
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pecessix wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:57 pm

This guy is not against vaccines, he just wants them to be better tested and studied.
No, he's deliberately peddling debunked conspiracy theories about vaccines:

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/10/50918554 ... e-skeptics

This kind of stupid shit kills people.
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47north wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:31 pm

The man is an idiot that trades on his family name.
Justin Trudeau has entered the chat.
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The man is an idiot that trades on his family name.

He who cannot attack the reasoning attacks the reasoner.
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pecessix wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:18 pm
The man is an idiot that trades on his family name.

He who cannot attack the reasoning attacks the reasoner.
Try addressing the facts, pecessix. I've posted some above. Or can you not?
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Weird Kennedy didn't DO the study, he merely linked it in an article. So what. It's linked in many sites.

Anyway, the fact is that people who have got the vaccine so far think its the only way to go, and the people who haven't, don't. It's like arguing about religion or politics...we're just a bunch of intransigent people who like to read our own words on the screen.

Got a shot? ok
Didn't get a shot? ok

..8 pages of who cares.
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Wow, currently 68% of avcanadians have had their first dose, and Google is telling me 65% of the general public have had a first dose. I dunno if I’m impressed or depressed by the fact that people on this site might accurately represent average Canadians.
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