Truckers convoy

[‘Bob’]

I’m a fan of the CBC and its public funding because it brings an aura of veracity and professionalism in comparison to the opinion piece on a conservative rag quoted previously that’s only slightly more trustworthy than the National Enquirer and Mad Magazine.

[rookiepilot]

I’m a fan of the CBC and its public funding because it brings an aura of veracity and professionalism

Uhmmmm, OK…..

[Aviatard]

Enjoy your fake reality.

Remember when you falsely claimed that there was not a word in the mainstream media about the Coastal Gaslink attack? Good times.

[‘Bob’]

The thing is.. that fake reality usually lines up very closely with real reality.

Remember when I said that hopefully these people don’t make any stupid life-altering choices like the Jan 6 buffoons?

Well.. that is playing out. I predicted it. The police, judges, and law ensured it happened to the few who bought into the “real reality” that you supposedly believe.

And that’s the trouble. This “real reality” or what’s more commonly known as post-truth is doing real damage. It’s killing people. It’s imprisoning them. It’s making them believe in the most foolish things. It has them saying “tHe CbC iS bIaSeD bEcAuSe It IsNt RePoRtInG tHiS!1!11!!” when a 0.25 second google search reveals two or three CBC articles reporting it… and they still found out about it somehow.. lol. It’s more like.. it was objective journalism and it didn’t have the “proper” opinion that the Sun editorial had.

Now. I don’t believe that CBC is infallible or completely free of bias. All news has some form of bias even if it’s what facts are omitted or emphasized. That’s why I never single-source news. And often, news from other countries is a good way to tell what is real and what isn’t because they have little to no stake in the matter.

However, I don’t have very much tolerance for people who don’t understand the difference between journalism and editorials. Editorials are opinions. Rex Murphy delivers editorials, not news. Ezra Levant’s entire organization is one big editorial. If you want a left wing equivalent? The Georgia Strait and Now! And don’t slam a CBC editorial for bias when it explicitly says “the views contained within are not necessarily those of the CBC”.

What public funding does is remove a source of bias. A publicly funded news source doesn’t need eye catching headlines and sensationalism to bring the views for advertising revenues (which is exactly what this sub forum is about). They don’t have anything to gain by which party is in power. We had conservative governments for a long time and the CBC wasn’t defunded or abolished. Most of the CBC board was conservative appointees not very long ago. It also ensures there are resources available to cover stories and areas that aren’t “profitable” for private media.

A friend of mine was asking why we have Canada Post when UPS or FedEx could do it cheaper. Sure.. are they going to take the mail to Resolute Bay at a loss every week? No? That’s what publicly funded organizations are for. And every time we privatize a public organization, that’s what happens.. an immediate rollback of services unless there are laws and watchdogs in place to prevent it.

Compare the CBC to Post Media. A privately owned, conservative leaning media company that has a near monopoly on print media and dailies in Canada. No conflict of interests there. And yet.. the National Post’s journalistic articles say much of the same thing CBC does.

Expand your horizons. When you are stuck in your own echo chamber.. the voices you hear outside start to sound foreign. Your reality no longer lines up with actual reality.

[WellThatAgedWell]

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[Aviatard]

Some crap meme.

You are 1.9% effective bud.

[rookiepilot]

The thing is.. that fake reality usually lines up very closely with real reality.

Remember when I said that hopefully these people don’t make any stupid life-altering choices like the Jan 6 buffoons?

Well.. that is playing out. I predicted it. The police, judges, and law ensured it happened to the few who bought into the “real reality” that you supposedly believe.

And that’s the trouble. This “real reality” or what’s more commonly known as post-truth is doing real damage. It’s killing people. It’s imprisoning them. It’s making them believe in the most foolish things. It has them saying “tHe CbC iS bIaSeD bEcAuSe It IsNt RePoRtInG tHiS!1!11!!” when a 0.25 second google search reveals two or three CBC articles reporting it… and they still found out about it somehow.. lol. It’s more like.. it was objective journalism and it didn’t have the “proper” opinion that the Sun editorial had.

Now. I don’t believe that CBC is infallible or completely free of bias. All news has some form of bias even if it’s what facts are omitted or emphasized. That’s why I never single-source news. And often, news from other countries is a good way to tell what is real and what isn’t because they have little to no stake in the matter.

However, I don’t have very much tolerance for people who don’t understand the difference between journalism and editorials. Editorials are opinions. Rex Murphy delivers editorials, not news. Ezra Levant’s entire organization is one big editorial. If you want a left wing equivalent? The Georgia Strait and Now! And don’t slam a CBC editorial for bias when it explicitly says “the views contained within are not necessarily those of the CBC”.

What public funding does is remove a source of bias. A publicly funded news source doesn’t need eye catching headlines and sensationalism to bring the views for advertising revenues (which is exactly what this sub forum is about). They don’t have anything to gain by which party is in power. We had conservative governments for a long time and the CBC wasn’t defunded or abolished. Most of the CBC board was conservative appointees not very long ago. It also ensures there are resources available to cover stories and areas that aren’t “profitable” for private media.

A friend of mine was asking why we have Canada Post when UPS or FedEx could do it cheaper. Sure.. are they going to take the mail to Resolute Bay at a loss every week? No? That’s what publicly funded organizations are for. And every time we privatize a public organization, that’s what happens.. an immediate rollback of services unless there are laws and watchdogs in place to prevent it.

Compare the CBC to Post Media. A privately owned, conservative leaning media company that has a near monopoly on print media and dailies in Canada. No conflict of interests there. And yet.. the National Post’s journalistic articles say much of the same thing CBC does.

Expand your horizons. When you are stuck in your own echo chamber.. the voices you hear outside start to sound foreign. Your reality no longer lines up with actual reality.

I suppose it’s possible everyone who criticizes the CBC is lying or a radical right wing hater. Think what you like.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/tara-h ... it-the-cbc

[2R]

The American Truckers convoy is not getting a lot of attention , but the national guard will be waiting for them in DC .
Some reports are saying 1500 trucks some reports 7000 vehicles but no videos of the two convoys or where they will merge ?
Or if they will just get turned around due to a new and more interesting variant quarantining the city .

[rookiepilot]

The American Truckers convoy is not getting a lot of attention , but the national guard will be waiting for them in DC .
Some reports are saying 1500 trucks some reports 7000 vehicles but no videos of the two convoys or where they will merge ?
Or if they will just get turned around due to a new and more interesting variant quarantining the city .

Haven’t seen the CBC/Trudeau call them out as misogynistic homophobic racists with unacceptable views. Wonder why.

[CpnCrunch]

Haven’t seen the CBC/Trudeau call them out as misogynistic homophobic racists with unacceptable views. Wonder why.

Maybe because they're not his problem? Did you see the footage showing journalists getting hassled all the time? Some very weird (delusional) views on display there.

[rookiepilot]

Haven’t seen the CBC/Trudeau call them out as misogynistic homophobic racists with unacceptable views. Wonder why.

Maybe because they're not his problem? Did you see the footage showing journalists getting hassled all the time? Some very weird (delusional) views on display there.

ZERO SYMPATHY.

Maybe they shouldn’t be smearing people to attract readers / viewers. More inflammatory the better for ratings.

Maybe misinformed, biased journalists should stop trying to be editorialists, and you know, just report.

Like it used to be.

If I wanted the opinions of the CBC “experts” — I would ask.

[CpnCrunch]

ZERO SYMPATHY.

Maybe they shouldn’t be smearing people to attract readers / viewers. More inflammatory the better for ratings.

Maybe misinformed, biased journalists should stop trying to be editorialists, and you know, just report.

Like it used to be.

If I wanted the opinions of the CBC “experts” — I would ask.

So you think it's ok for journalists to be constantly harassed at spat at by delusional protesters who believe the media is lying to everyone? Well guess what: the story they get is that the protesters are nasty and delusional!

The whole thing is a joke. Did you see anyone protesting in Ukraine before Russia invaded? No, they just prepared by training their soldiers to Nato standards (with primarily Canada's help), and gave their citizens AK-47s to protect their homeland. Whereas in Canada we have a bunch of people protesting that they have to get a highly effective vaccine in order to sit in a restaurant or go to Mexico. The protest against the trucker vaccine mandate itself was never going to achieve anything because of the reciprocal mandates in the USA, and the government has now presumably put them at the end of the list of restrictions to lift. And guess what: the government won the battle, and the restrictions are still there. (And no, before you ask, I don't believe the restrictions are useful).

[TeePeeCreeper]

ZERO SYMPATHY.

Maybe they shouldn’t be smearing people to attract readers / viewers. More inflammatory the better for ratings.

Maybe misinformed, biased journalists should stop trying to be editorialists, and you know, just report.

Like it used to be.

If I wanted the opinions of the CBC “experts” — I would ask.

So you think it's ok for journalists to be constantly harassed at spat at by delusional protesters who believe the media is lying to everyone? Well guess what: the story they get is that the protesters are nasty and delusional!

The whole thing is a joke. Did you see anyone protesting in Ukraine before Russia invaded? No, they just prepared by training their soldiers to Nato standards (with primarily Canada's help), and gave their citizens AK-47s to protect their homeland. Whereas in Canada we have a bunch of people protesting that they have to get a highly effective vaccine in order to sit in a restaurant or go to Mexico. The protest against the trucker vaccine mandate itself was never going to achieve anything because of the reciprocal mandates in the USA, and the government has now presumably put them at the end of the list of restrictions to lift. And guess what: the government won the battle, and the restrictions are still there. (And no, before you ask, I don't believe the restrictions are useful).

Hold short! You mean that the annexation of a sovereign country by Russia can be compared to the so called Canadian “freedom convoy”? Wow.I suppose your also part of the group that thinks JT might be Fidel’s child!

Oh bless the ad revenue for this ridiculous sub forum!

TPC

[rookiepilot]

Repeat, as obviously didn’t get through.

I never said journalists should be attacked. But —-

Perhaps Media should work on earning the trust of Canadians back, instead of smearing for ratings.

Canadians agree en masse.

https://tnc.news/2022/02/10/poll-shows- ... -time-low/

Meanwhile, traditional media continued to plummet as Canadians tuned out of legacy news sources. In 2022, only 35% of Canadians said they trusted traditional media, compared to 38% last year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/editorsblog/edi ... -1.5936535

[TG]

ZERO SYMPATHY.

Maybe they shouldn’t be smearing people to attract readers / viewers. More inflammatory the better for ratings.

Maybe misinformed, biased journalists should stop trying to be editorialists, and you know, just report.

Like it used to be.

If I wanted the opinions of the CBC “experts” — I would ask.

So you think it's ok for journalists to be constantly harassed at spat at by delusional protesters who believe the media is lying to everyone? Well guess what: the story they get is that the protesters are nasty and delusional!

The whole thing is a joke. Did you see anyone protesting in Ukraine before Russia invaded? No, they just prepared by training their soldiers to Nato standards (with primarily Canada's help), and gave their citizens AK-47s to protect their homeland. Whereas in Canada we have a bunch of people protesting that they have to get a highly effective vaccine in order to sit in a restaurant or go to Mexico. The protest against the trucker vaccine mandate itself was never going to achieve anything because of the reciprocal mandates in the USA, and the government has now presumably put them at the end of the list of restrictions to lift. And guess what: the government won the battle, and the restrictions are still there. (And no, before you ask, I don't believe the restrictions are useful).

Hold short! You mean that the annexation of a sovereign country by Russia can be compared to the so called Canadian “freedom convoy”? Wow.I suppose your also part of the group that thinks JT might be Fidel’s child!

Oh bless the ad revenue for this ridiculous sub forum!

TPC

Well they were a bunch of deniers here calling Canada a "Dictatorship" and crying their mama for "freeeeedom"
Pretty ridiculous claims in the light of what's going on in places like Ukraine, North Korea or Afghanistan, etc..

[complexintentions]

The same people calling the comparison of Canada to totalitarian regimes ridiculous, were the same people clutching their pearls breathlessly referring to the trucker protest as an "invasion", "occupation", and similar.

If one is going to call out nonsense it needs to be exposed equally. Lots of drama queens on both sides of the coin, as you're proving.

I do agree that imposing the (re-named War Measures Act) Emergencies Act to deal with the protests was pretty silly considering the real war now happening.

[photofly]

In what sense was it not an occupation? The occupiers themselves called it thst.

[Inverted2]

Our PM hid for a week when some truckers with loud horns and nasty flags showed up.

The Ukraine President did not flee his people and is rallying them to fight when the nasty Russians invaded.

[digits_]

In what sense was it not an occupation? The occupiers themselves called it thst.

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries. ... occupation

occupation: the act of moving into a country, town, etc. and taking control of it using military force; the period of time during which a country, town, etc. is controlled in this way

[photofly]

In what sense was it not an occupation? The occupiers themselves called it thst.

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries. ... occupation

occupation: the act of moving into a country, town, etc. and taking control of it using military force; the period of time during which a country, town, etc. is controlled in this way

Sure, but there are lots of different meanings. I'm an occupier of my house. I am, quite literally, in occupation here.
More widely, I don't really get the fetish for labels. We all know what it was, and what it wasn't.

[mmm..bacon]

Repeat, as obviously didn’t get through.

I never said journalists should be attacked. But —-

Perhaps Media should work on earning the trust of Canadians back, instead of smearing for ratings.

Don't think that's possible, really.. One of the consequences of the increasing Americanization of our political discourse is a distrust of media on both sides: internet/youtube news consumers will never be wooed over to the CBC, and vice-versa.

[rookiepilot]

Our PM hid for a week when some truckers with loud horns and nasty flags showed up.

The Ukraine President did not flee his people and is rallying them to fight when the nasty Russians invaded.

There's a word for that, too

[rookiepilot]

Repeat, as obviously didn’t get through.

I never said journalists should be attacked. But —-

Perhaps Media should work on earning the trust of Canadians back, instead of smearing for ratings.

Don't think that's possible, really.. One of the consequences of the increasing Americanization of our political discourse is a distrust of media on both sides: internet/youtube news consumers will never be wooed over to the CBC, and vice-versa.

Yeah, I saw that in the CBC article.

"It's not any of our fault we've been caught in our bias, it's the internet misinformation out there"

[pelmet]

The same people calling the comparison of Canada to totalitarian regimes ridiculous, were the same people clutching their pearls breathlessly referring to the trucker protest as an "invasion", "occupation", and similar.

If one is going to call out nonsense it needs to be exposed equally. Lots of drama queens on both sides of the coin, as you're proving.

I called the blocking of the bridges that was costing billions and shutting down major manufacturing plants economic warfare. Was that ridiculous of me?

[rookiepilot]

Talking about Media:

MSN reporters and other elites with the blue check mark are all over Twitter telling everyone in the US “We” need to do this and “We” need to do that. Regime change. US needs to send troops. “We” need to get involved”.

Everyone but them, of course.

Never see those types volunteer to go into battle, holding a weapon. Or their children.

This is why the disgusting part of the media. No heroes there.

But if there is — look:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-r ... -1.6366842