Air Canada interview !!!!

whipline · Post by **whipline** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:54 am

Thanks for the info Jacques. I obvioulsy know about taking pay cuts moving from company to company. I have worked for 7 companies and counting. My point is I am tired of going backwards and I enjoy where I work. I have a great shedule, work with great people and make good money. And to be blunt I am worth more then 38,000, that money is an insult. Plus I don't think the 340 skippers (if I was a RP) would enjoy me asking why they make 200,000 more then me.

A330 · Post by **A330** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:14 am

Whipline,

I would give that some serious thought......just ask one of about 300 pilots from C3? Unless you're in your 40's, I would get in there.

Just a thought...

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:06 pm

Whipline

I hear ya man! You are worth much more than 38 grand! That is why I hated the 777 deal as it would have increased the pay group.

If you love where you are and make a decent living doing it then I would say that you have succeeded in your career.

Bede · Post by **Bede** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:14 pm

Brickhead,
I heard they were getting rid of the 340 due to maintenance costs&range not being as advertised. This was before the deal fell through though. Do you think they went ffrom phase out 340s to getting more? What if they put an order in again though?

Brick Head · Post by **Brick Head** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:53 pm

centerstored wrote:Great info guys,

Can someone clarify the lou 18. Some say that this lou is no longer valid or in existance after the CCAA. Others still refer to it. What is the real deal? Thanks in advance.

Lou is still in existence. It has now been gutted to require no hiring from Jazz. This doesn't mean they can't hire from jazz just that there is no longer a contractual requirement to do so with in ACPA contract.

Bede,

Who knows what AC will do in the long run. They are before the CIRB as we speak trying to force a revote. That tells me the deal isn't done. My point was only to illustrate that AC's hiring has not changed with the purchase order possibly dead. They have said they will if necessary bring in used 340's.

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:41 pm

Crew Planning just finished up their pilot requirement for the next year and it should be posted shortly.

Like Brick Head said, the company is in front of the CIRB trying to get a revote, so I don't know how Mr. Fauteux has put his plan together but they should have some up to date numbers shortly.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:08 am

I will be posting my interview feedback at http://www.aviationinterviews.com
It will be done in one hour

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:53 am

Hey Orlando

Did we meet the other day in the parking lot? You were flying for Delta Connection in Orlando and looking to get back to Canada? You were asking where the interviews were being held so you wouldn't be late.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:48 am

My interview feedback is posted... go to this link to register. It may take a few hours to be up on the webiste but you can register in the meantime and asked to be notified about new AC feedback.

http://www.aviationinterviews.com/pilotregister.php

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:50 am

Just had a good chat with Orlando on the phone. He has taken the time to post as much info about the interview process on aviationinterviews.com

If you are serious about AC, I would suggest you check it out.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:08 am

I just registered on the site but the most recent gouge was posted April 29th from Jazz. I assume that the site moderators have to approve a posting before it is viewable?

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:50 am

yycflyguy wrote:I just registered on the site but the most recent gouge was posted April 29th from Jazz. I assume that the site moderators have to approve a posting before it is viewable?

Checkout the second one. It is better. Orlando was saying that he is still waiting for his to be posted but he submitted it several hours ago. They probably look it over before posting. His post should be a good one though as he had a lot of good information.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:06 pm

Hey Guys,
Just got notification that my feedback was posted. The webmaster had to approve it before it was psoted...he wrote back to me stating that. For some reason, he did not post all of the preliminary details (i.e flight time). Hopefully, it will help you all. aviationinterviews.com is a great site for all airlines. I used it when I interviewed at my current employer and there were literally hundreds of feedback forms. Air Canada's section is weak now because most of you didn't know about this site. We can change that though! By the way, my form is the one posted on top. The 2nd form is Jazz from April, I believe. The third one is from a few years ago. If everyone who has interviews participates, we can really help each other out.
Thanks!

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:11 pm

I was of the impression that an External HR firm was being used to screen applicants before interviews with AC. Was this screening done on the phone or in person or not at all?

What happened to the sim evaluation? Are they putting everyone through medicals and such before the sim eval now?

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:37 pm

They did not mention anything about a sim eval. I don't believe that it will be part of the new process due to availability and the lack of necessity for doing it, especially for guys with jet/airline/glass experience. Remember, the company is trying to save $ and that is just a waste of resources. I think the HR screening is done from the online application. They also didn't mention anything about a second interview.

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:00 pm

Well, it is kind of ironic then isn't it? Here we have AC Jazz that is interviewing candidates, most of whom have lots of time, jet time and experience as PIC... having to go through the interview process, sim evaluation and medical...

Meanwhile, AC claims there are not enough experienced pilots on the market that meet their selection criteria, so they will just interview and hire them because they do not have time to run them through the sim selection process...

You would think it would be the same all around or the complete opposite.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:11 pm

When did AC that they did not have enough experienced pilots out there?

twin turbines · Post by **twin turbines** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:17 pm

I read the gouge on airline interviews site. I noticed a couple of people stated that their resumes were 'walked' in. I'm wondering if the hiring is being conducted by an independent third party, how does one get a resume walked in?

Gurundu the Rat · Post by **Gurundu the Rat** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:52 am

No sim eval? That's a shame. One having jet time does not prove his competance. I thought a sim eval was a good way to weed out those who had impressive academic backgrounds and were excellent interviewees, yet were just not meant to fly.

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:09 am

I don't think there is a sim eval right now due to a lack of simulators. When we had some DC9 & 727 sims around it was no problem. Right now though the sims are running non stop.

Prop2jet

Where are you getting your info from? I haven't seen such a claim.

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:56 am

Gurundu the Rat wrote:One having jet time does not prove his competance.

That's the statement of the day!!

prop2jet · Post by **prop2jet** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:48 am

JS:
You are correct, AC has not made any claims that they cannot find enough candidates to fit their mold - however they did drop the requirment to hold an ATPL and now they say a minimum of 1000 hours is required in order to be considered. Everyone can interpret this however they choose.

orlando-pilot · Post by **orlando-pilot** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:02 pm

Maybe the time requirement was lowered to 1000 fixed wing to accomodate some of our military pilots who flew a lot in helicopters or just have low fixed wing time....just an idea. And if that is the case, then good for the company...our military guys deserve that!

twinpratts · Post by **twinpratts** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:29 pm

I'm speculating that a lot of the low timers have a Dad in the training department, who are not necessarily the best qualified

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LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:19 pm

twinpratts wrote:I'm speculating that a lot of the low timers have a Dad in the training department, who are not necessarily the best qualified .

Not sure...maybe...but, thats a big step to take for a few pilot's kids.

I'm more of the though they are looking to mold " Company " style employees that might be with them for 20 years plus.

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