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mbav8r wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 pm
montado wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:40 pm My question for those who are pro mask, will you consider this the new normal and wear a mask from now on the rest of your life in public spaces? What would change your mind about the masks. I don’t believe covid will ever be eradicated, it will mutate the same way the seasonal flu does and maybe vaccines will have to keep up with it. At least this is what I heard from some experts, covid likely will never go away.

So masks forever, right guys? We will see you in 2030 still masking it up and have a social circle of only 10 people... but really we know in about a years time you will rationalize why it’s ok to not use a mask anymore... maybe you need to hear 50 cases per day vs 100, maybe a vaccine that’s 70 percent effective... but remember you said masks aren’t perfect but they reduce the risks! So let’s just hope you stay committed to that life long risk reduction.
Well, for starters if it’s still a pandemic and it’s still recommended as a mitigating tool, then yes I will wear a mask. How hard is it to be considerate of others around you, the majority feel this way, so if you’re the minority perhaps the problem is you
I find it interesting when people say “the majority feel this way...”
So if the majority doesn’t mind the govt making new rules or recommendations in the name of your safety, why have less than 4% of the population downloaded the tracing app. Your govt has said it is necessary in order to trace and isolate cases to keep the numbers low. So the majority supports masks and mitigating measures, why are those people not supporting the tracing app to mitigate transmission??

Strange how the ‘majority’ the media is talking about doesn’t match the real world numbers

And if you reply with “most people wear masks..” which means they support it -I will reply with “Maybe most people wear a mask just to avoid being accosted in public by the violent pro maskers, or just don’t want the hassle of being asked at the store to wear a mask. Just because someone would rather avoid confrontation doesn’t mean they ‘want’ to wear the mask”
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Rockie wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:13 pm “Idiot” in this context is an observation, not an insult. It’s an abbreviated way to say “unable to understand very simple concepts”.
Lol good one
That’s like in “talladega nights” movie
When Ricky Bobby says something insulting followed by “what? I said with all due respect. That means I can say what I want” lol
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No, I don’t mean it with all due respect. Rex Tillerson didn’t say “with all due respect” when he said to the US JCS and James Mattis that Trump is a “f*****g moron”, he was simply stating a fact that everyone present could plainly see was true.

Same situation here.
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Rockie wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:55 pm No, I don’t mean it with all due respect. Rex Tillerson didn’t say “with all due respect” when he said to the US JCS and James Mattis that Trump is a “f*****g moron”, he was simply stating a fact that everyone present could plainly see was true.

Same situation here.
Well that’s only a “fact” if you hate Donald trump
I have seen many people state otherwise, that is a fact.

For most people they understand that a comment like that is a personal judgement of character and that personal feelings are not ‘facts’ in the common use of the term ‘fact’
Example-having two apples is more than having one apple -that is an accepted fact the number 2 is greater than 1
Saying that a red apple is tastier than a green apple is not a fact, it is an opinion

Calling Donald trump names is an opinion.

How do you feel that your liberal friends down south have been outsmarted by a “fucking moron” for over 4 years now(from the time he declared to run for president to now)

You’d have to be even dumber than a fucking moron to have lost every political battle for 4 years now , he sure beat those geniuses at the impeachment trial! Lol
Sorry to trigger you lol
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northernpilot2 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:47 pm If I made the laws, seatbelts would only be mandatory if your car is travelling more than 80km/h. Below that speed, if you remove your belt or keep it on, who cares. The point is, the cops wouldn't be allowed to bother you until 80km/h +. But currently, you must wear your seat belt even if you travel at 10km/h because somehow if you slam on the brakes, you will go flying though the windshield at that speed. That's how our government thinks anyway, and so do some citizens. What a world we live in. :lol:
If you did that, then just like Trump, you’d be responsible for a whole bunch of unnecessary injuries and deaths. People have died in collisions at a lot less than 80 kph.

I get it, you’re a hard ass and nothing is going to change your mind. Just do me a favour, never ever fly an airplane with one of my loved ones as a passenger. You cannot be trusted to make rational decisions on behalf of others.
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mbav8r wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 pm
montado wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:40 pm My question for those who are pro mask, will you consider this the new normal and wear a mask from now on the rest of your life in public spaces? What would change your mind about the masks. I don’t believe covid will ever be eradicated, it will mutate the same way the seasonal flu does and maybe vaccines will have to keep up with it. At least this is what I heard from some experts, covid likely will never go away.

So masks forever, right guys? We will see you in 2030 still masking it up and have a social circle of only 10 people... but really we know in about a years time you will rationalize why it’s ok to not use a mask anymore... maybe you need to hear 50 cases per day vs 100, maybe a vaccine that’s 70 percent effective... but remember you said masks aren’t perfect but they reduce the risks! So let’s just hope you stay committed to that life long risk reduction.
Well, for starters if it’s still a pandemic and it’s still recommended as a mitigating tool, then yes I will wear a mask. How hard is it to be considerate of others around you, the majority feel this way, so if you’re the minority perhaps the problem is you
Daily new cases globally are nearly 300k, the pandemic was declared back in March and April when cases were well below 100k so surely you would wait until daily cases are below 100k again before you would even consider going out with no mask? Do you even think it’s possible that the world will ever see less than 100lk cases in a day going forward? I don’t. So I just wonder what metrics you use to feed the fear... if the experts came out tomorrow and said it’s not as bad as we thought, pandemic is over, you would then instantly not use a mask anymore? Is it as simple as just doing as you are told?

I just think it’s hilarious because one of these days you will likely change your mind about masks, and I just want to know what it is that will make you change your mind. How many weddings will you skip, how many thanksgivings will you miss?
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mbav8r wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 pm
montado wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:40 pm My question for those who are pro mask, will you consider this the new normal and wear a mask from now on the rest of your life in public spaces? What would change your mind about the masks. I don’t believe covid will ever be eradicated, it will mutate the same way the seasonal flu does and maybe vaccines will have to keep up with it. At least this is what I heard from some experts, covid likely will never go away.

So masks forever, right guys? We will see you in 2030 still masking it up and have a social circle of only 10 people... but really we know in about a years time you will rationalize why it’s ok to not use a mask anymore... maybe you need to hear 50 cases per day vs 100, maybe a vaccine that’s 70 percent effective... but remember you said masks aren’t perfect but they reduce the risks! So let’s just hope you stay committed to that life long risk reduction.
Well, for starters if it’s still a pandemic and it’s still recommended as a mitigating tool, then yes I will wear a mask. How hard is it to be considerate of others around you, the majority feel this way, so if you’re the minority perhaps the problem is you
I think it's pretty simple. In areas where the mask is mandatory, people will wear the mask. If they don't there will be consequences. In areas where it is NOT required, why do pro-maskers and/or people like you feel the need to force the "be considerate of others" phrase on those who don't wear one? People who aren't wearing masks aren't encroaching on mask wearing people's 'personal space'. They are just going about their business like the rest of the people. Do you know how many mask wearing people I see DAILY who are either wearing it incorrectly or are wearing one pair of gloves and touching anything and everything? Do you know how many of them are unknowingly irresponsible for their actions? They worry me more than people not wearing a mask. If wearing a mask was SO detrimental to PREVENTING infection, do you not think it would be federal/provincial/municipal law to wear one in ANY public space? It is NOT.

So stop getting so hyped up. There will be people who CHOOSE to wear a mask. There will be people who DON'T. Not one group or the other needs to be patronized or crucified for wearing one or not. God you're like hardcore vegans pushing your ideologies on everyone. This pandemic has made you people nutty.
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It's all Trump's fault. At least that's what my news feed tells me


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The other day I was alone in an elevator in a place where masks were not mandatory. I was of course wearing a mask. The elevator stopped at a floor where a half dozen young people (not wearing masks) waited to get on. As they weren’t wearing masks they said no problem, they’d catch the next elevator.

They weren’t concerned about catching the virus from me or their friends, but were considerate enough to not unnecessarily expose me to the risk of catching it from them. I very much appreciated them not being assholes about it.

There’s a lesson in there for some people here.
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hotdog1 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:01 pm How do you feel that your liberal friends down south have been outsmarted by a “fucking moron” for over 4 years now(from the time he declared to run for president to now)
It wasn’t liberals he outsmarted, it was the 60+ million who voted for him (and you apparently) and who still support him to this day despite all the damage and death he’s caused. Those people will believe the most ridiculous things time after time, even after it kills them.
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 4:08 am
hotdog1 wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:01 pm How do you feel that your liberal friends down south have been outsmarted by a “fucking moron” for over 4 years now(from the time he declared to run for president to now)
It wasn’t liberals he outsmarted, it was the 60+ million who voted for him (and you apparently) and who still support him to this day despite all the damage and death he’s caused. Those people will believe the most ridiculous things time after time, even after it kills them.

Lol
Maybe you should run for president, you have all the answers, you like to use the trump strategy of calling people names, belittling them and presenting no facts for your arguments. Is he secretly your hero that you try to emulate??

Who tried to impeach him? According to you it wasn’t the liberal(democrats) Who was it then?
And you think I voted for him? Lol, well I guess you are admitting he outsmarted the system and his opponents again cause he found a way to have non American citizens vote for him.
You think alllllll the other presidents didnt cause any damage? Lol
Wow, your replies just keep getting crazier! Lol

It may be time to get rid of this thread lol
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montado wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:31 pm
mbav8r wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 6:12 pm
montado wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:40 pm My question for those who are pro mask, will you consider this the new normal and wear a mask from now on the rest of your life in public spaces? What would change your mind about the masks. I don’t believe covid will ever be eradicated, it will mutate the same way the seasonal flu does and maybe vaccines will have to keep up with it. At least this is what I heard from some experts, covid likely will never go away.

So masks forever, right guys? We will see you in 2030 still masking it up and have a social circle of only 10 people... but really we know in about a years time you will rationalize why it’s ok to not use a mask anymore... maybe you need to hear 50 cases per day vs 100, maybe a vaccine that’s 70 percent effective... but remember you said masks aren’t perfect but they reduce the risks! So let’s just hope you stay committed to that life long risk reduction.
Well, for starters if it’s still a pandemic and it’s still recommended as a mitigating tool, then yes I will wear a mask. How hard is it to be considerate of others around you, the majority feel this way, so if you’re the minority perhaps the problem is you
Daily new cases globally are nearly 300k, the pandemic was declared back in March and April when cases were well below 100k so surely you would wait until daily cases are below 100k again before you would even consider going out with no mask? Do you even think it’s possible that the world will ever see less than 100lk cases in a day going forward? I don’t. So I just wonder what metrics you use to feed the fear... if the experts came out tomorrow and said it’s not as bad as we thought, pandemic is over, you would then instantly not use a mask anymore? Is it as simple as just doing as you are told?

I just think it’s hilarious because one of these days you will likely change your mind about masks, and I just want to know what it is that will make you change your mind. How many weddings will you skip, how many thanksgivings will you miss?
Cases are not deaths. But the media would you to think that a case meant automatic deaths.
Also, donalD trump wasn’t wrong, and I know it triggers some, but the more tests you do, the more cases you will find
Don’t forget, 80% of people show no or very mild symptoms.
Also, I won’t ever change my mind. Here’s why, I’m pretty sure my entire family experienced I the covid last Christmas.
When the other 3 in my household went to the doctor for a ‘cold’ they were told it was viral, but not pneumonia but also could not identify what virus it was. They were all told to go home and come back if it got worse. It didn’t. Everyone for better in a week or so. I didn’t experience any symptoms at all. There were no lockdowns at that point so in theory we were all spreading the virus. And yet in my area there has only been 5 deaths since March-all in LTC homes, which we did not visit. There has also been very, very few hospitalizations.
If you know anyone who works in a factory they can probably tell you that most of their employees were also ‘sick’ over Christmas and into January.
That all makes sense if the covid is as contagious as we are being told. If over 2000 people a day travelled from China before the lockdowns, how many would it take to bring the virus and have it spread? Well it would have had over 4 months to spread freely.
If the virus spreads at logorithmic rates, it would be impossible to not have most people exposed in a few months, especially in dense populations like Toronto and most of southern Ontario where people travel daily on the 401 to other major Centers.

And yet masks weren’t mandated for months after being the virus was identified in Canada. Maybe our government should be held accountable like trump for causing all those unnecessary deaths. If masks worked, and the govt didn’t use that tool to save lives, doesn’t that make them some kind of responsible??

I won’t skip any weddings or funerals. I won’t be one of those whiners that “regrets” not saying good bye to a parent who died alone of cancer because the govt didn’t want you spread covid to them and kill them.

I won’t change my mind or do what I’m told just because someone says so. Especially the govt, they have a looooong list of corruption and lies and just plain old unethical self serving behaviours.
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RWETHRYET wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:13 amCanadas largest nurses group has already proven in court masks are useless in stopping the spread of flu like viruses
Funny, most people prove scientific assertions in a laboratory, not a courtroom.
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Another observation hotdog, you use Lol a lot. Really a LOT.

I’m beginning to doubt your claims of being a pilot, or of being older than 12. Lol.
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:18 am Another observation hotdog, you use Lol a lot. Really a LOT.

I’m beginning to doubt your claims of being a pilot, or of being older than 12. Lol.
Yes Rockie, everyone who doesn’t buy your arguments is a 12 year old non-pilot.
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Actually I was referring to his habit of conversing like a 12 year old. Lol. Based on my experience of never having seen a pilot put lol at the beginning and end of every sentence. I know 12 year olds who do though, and that’s not old enough to be a pilot.

Lol
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 am Actually I was referring to his habit of conversing like a 12 year old. Lol. Based on my experience of never having seen a pilot put lol at the beginning and end of every sentence. I know 12 year olds who do though.

Lol
You should check your language privilege; the other progressives would take away your liberal card if they saw how you attempted to marginalize and oppress those who identified as grammatically non-binary.

Perhaps you’d prefer to converse in Ebonic?
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 am Actually I was referring to his habit of conversing like a 12 year old. Lol. Based on my experience of never having seen a pilot put lol at the beginning and end of every sentence. I know 12 year olds who do though, and that’s not old enough to be a pilot.

Lol
Yawn, could you at least be original in you immature attempted insults LOL!!
Do you spend a lot of time studying 12 year olds language habits and compare them to pilots?? That’s an interesting use of ones time. Maybe you need to get out more.
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hotdog1 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 7:32 am Do you spend a lot of time studying 12 year olds language habits
Trust me hotdog, when you're old enough to have kids of your own you'll understand.
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:18 am Another observation hotdog, you use Lol a lot. Really a LOT.

I’m beginning to doubt your claims of being a pilot, or of being older than 12. Lol.
Good one! LOL
I use that a LOT because your make me laugh, in a sad and pathetic way.

Hey everyone rockie doubts I am a pilot-that makes it an indisputable fact!!! LOL

By the way, have you looked up way “I give up,..” means-you said that days ago and yet you keep going on and on and on with the silly observations and insults that no one cares about.

You really act like you know a lot about 12 yr olds, maybe you shouldn’t broadcast that to the world
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I will leave you with this thought rockie.
Then you can be the internet hero and get the last childish insult in.

If you wish to be taken seriously and have people believe in your point of view-like wearing a mask- you should refrain from the insults and trying to embarrass, shame or belittle the opposing viewpoint.
In psychology (this isn’t my opinion, it’s well known in the field) it is well known that if a person feels they will get embarrassed, ‘called out’, shamed or demeaned for admitting they were ‘wrong’ in their opinion, That person will more likely choose to entrench themselves in their opinion than risk being embarrassed.

It’s the same reason the ‘flat earners’ movement continues to grow.
If someone tells you they think the earth is flat, people like you respond by trying to make them feel stupid by calling them names. Do you think that person now wants to admit to your that they are wrong? Hell no they won’t lol
That person will seek out people who won’t make them feel stupid, so they seek others of the same mind-other flat earners. Those people-like a gang- will make eachother feel better and validate their opinions.
If you really wanted to change a flat earthers opinion, you would reply with a rational approach. Perhaps by engaging them in a peer level, respected manner. You would see it as an opportunity to share some knowledge in an educational way, not a demeaning way.
By accepting their theory, you validate their intelligence and they are less likely to become defensive and entrenched.

There are plenty of posters here that disagree, fortunately they choose the latter, mature approach to sharing knowledge. Maybe even charming an opinion viewpoint.
You my friend could learn from them.

I do learn from some of them(pilotdar is a great example-I have never seen him call anyone names , and he backs his opinions with real world knowledge) you may notice that YOU are the only one I have these disagreements with.
Where as I have seen many have this same conversation with you.

Having said that, take your last shot at calling me some silly little name.
Unlike you, I really won’t reply. Lol
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Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 am Actually I was referring to his habit of conversing like a 12 year old. Lol. Based on my experience of never having seen a pilot put lol at the beginning and end of every sentence. I know 12 year olds who do though, and that’s not old enough to be a pilot.

Lol
Rockie


He’s not worth arguing with.

I’m pretty sure he’s an fo(thinks he’s a captain) that I’ve flown with. He just argues to argue. 🤷‍♂️
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Biff wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:18 pm
Rockie wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 6:40 am Actually I was referring to his habit of conversing like a 12 year old. Lol. Based on my experience of never having seen a pilot put lol at the beginning and end of every sentence. I know 12 year olds who do though, and that’s not old enough to be a pilot.

Lol
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He’s not worth arguing with.

I’m pretty sure he’s an fo(thinks he’s a captain) that I’ve flown with. He just argues to argue. 🤷‍♂️
Do you have multiple profiles rockie??
I won’t reply to “rockie” anymore and the very next post on the thread is another silly attempt to insult -and quite ironic -the post is defending you as the one who DOESN’T just argue


That’s quite the coincidence LOL!

So now I will add that I won’t reply to Rockies other profile name ‘biff’ either.

PS:you’re assumption is wrong-again. Keep trying, you might be right one of these times
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hotdog1 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm PS:you’re assumption is wrong-again. Keep trying, you might be right one of these times
*your
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Meatservo wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 3:06 pm
hotdog1 wrote: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:26 pm PS:you’re assumption is wrong-again. Keep trying, you might be right one of these times
*your
Well , I’ll take that as a compliment. Allllllll of these posts and one grammatical error to be corrected. Not bad
Probably just a spell check issue, but keep up the good work combing through posts to find grammar mistakes. I might just make the next one on porpoise to give you something to do. 🧐
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