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Rockie wrote:
geodoc wrote:OK, OK ................... part of the Left Wing Media Conspiracy. How's about the WSJ then?
How about Trump's character and behavior? Far from hiding it, he revels in it. He proudly puts his ignorance and every other dispicable character trait on full display. You don't have to read or watch anything but him.
....don't you mean deplorable ...... :smt040

Trump doesn't hide what he is and the media doesn't gloss over his flaws. These are two key areas where he differs from Politicians.
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Rockie,

You need to chill. No amount of bitching or protesting or money from George Soros is going to change the result. Amazing, how angry the lefties get when they lose....perhaps participation awards and no score sports for kids growing up in the 90's is rearing its ugly head? These "kids" have never been asked to lose before, and now that "they" have lost, they can't cope.

As far as I'm aware, the sun has risen and the sky has stayed firmly above our heads for the past 2 weeks and I suspect they will do the same for the next 4 years +.
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No, I mean despicable, and that's what I find so frightening about you and the people who elected Trump. You think a man like that would make a fine president because of those traits.

cdnpilot77

You still don't get that this has nothing to do with political leaning. Even most Republicans grew a small spine for a while recognizing what Trump was before they all fell in line like the cowards they are. Trump is a wrecking ball and the whole world knows it. And no, people do not have to stop fighting him and every perverted, brainless thing he stands for. I suspect when he gets in office even people like you will finally open your eyes.
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Donald Trump may be the arrogant blowhard, and much more, that the left is accusing him of being as they cry and mourn their loss. Certainly I'm not much of a fan of his character.

But look at the worse option that was avoided. I don't say this lightly, and my (very moderate) american friends agree, HRC is without a doubt a traitor to her own country from the (wiki leaks) evidence presented.

She should be facing serious charges for her actions. It's abhorrent and many, many Americans obviously agreed.

Next time democrats, try nominating Someone with honour and character.
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Rookie50 wrote:Donald Trump may be the arrogant blowhard
Oh yes, he's much more than an arrogant blowhard. Even if he had the attention span to listen to briefs on complex issues - which he doesn't - he doesn't have the smarts to understand them. Worse, he doesn't understand that he doesn't understand them. He's the idiot who believes he knows more about military matters than the military remember?

He's a proven racist. He's a proven sexist. He's a proven misogynist, He's a proven fraudster and con artist. He's a proven incurable liar, in fact he doesn't even recognize or care about the truth even if he falls over it by accident because it just doesn't serve him like lying does. He still to this day refuses to give up control of his businesses creating the mother of all conflict of interests, and he won't even prove to the American people that he is not compromised financially with America's adversaries or friends.

But according to millions of Americans and others he's the one because he laughably "tells it like it is". Oh my god...if that wasn't so pathetically delusional it would almost be funny.
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Rockie wrote:
Rookie50 wrote:Donald Trump may be the arrogant blowhard
Oh yes, he's much more than an arrogant blowhard. Even if he had the attention span to listen to briefs on complex issues - which he doesn't - he doesn't have the smarts to understand them. Worse, he doesn't understand that he doesn't understand them. He's the idiot who believes he knows more about military matters than the military remember?

He's a proven racist. He's a proven sexist. He's a proven misogynist, He's a proven fraudster and con artist. He's a proven incurable liar, in fact he doesn't even recognize or care about the truth even if he falls over it by accident because it just doesn't serve him like lying does. He still to this day refuses to give up control of his businesses creating the mother of all conflict of interests, and he won't even prove to the American people that he is not compromised financially with America's adversaries or friends.

But according to millions of Americans and others he's the one because he laughably "tells it like it is". Oh my god...if that wasn't so pathetically delusional it would almost be funny.
Millions of Americans decided, all that notwithstanding, not to vote for a traitor who should be indicted, and I'm convinced if elected would have been impeached.

That is the bottom line.
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Rookie50 wrote:Millions of Americans decided, all that notwithstanding, not to vote for a traitor who should be indicted, and I'm convinced if elected would have been impeached.
She's not a traitor, and that's not why you and other people hate her. You hate her because you've been programmed to. You hate her so much you prefer the disaster that Trump promises to be.
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The voters drove a stake into the Hildabeast and mercifully ended it's political life.

The Clinton grifter machine is finished.
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Oh brother. You need to ease up on the Alex Jones...
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Rockie, And you should stop getting your perspectives from CNN.

Have a look at all the major news networks and see how they were directly tied to the Hillary campaign, it's masterful manipulation and you've fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

At some point, you're going to accept the reality but I get that your head is exploding, time to open your mind to a different perspective. We've certainly had too under our little potato and the BS that he's forced down our throats...accept the reality. 62,000,000 + people specifically voted against Clinton, not necessarily FOR Trump. There is a massive difference.

And fell in line? You think all the dems were truly behind Hillary and her corrupt ways? Where is all her support now? They couldn't wait to kick her to the curb and if it weren't for her corruption, it would have happened at the DNC. Trump would have had a far more difficult time against Sanders and everyone knew it. She was so damned arrogant that she didn't even have a concession speech written. Every bit of her is staged and the people saw through her horrible charade.
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I think the Trump Administration has the possibility of imploding on itself within 2-3 yrs. of his Presidency, similar to what happened to Nixon at the start of the 70’s. I also think during the Trump years there will be plenty of civil unrest in the US of A especially with the current racist narrative stench from some of his top people. If you get white supremacists and the KKK singing your praises, throw in the Evangelical Christian hard right lot and you get a recipe for a mushroom cloud of dissent from the people of color/progressives and university younger generation. It is gonna get real interesting.
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I read everything, including CNN and Fox. If I want to truly see how the wild side lives I read Info Wars. Clinton was not a perfect candidate and I wouldn't vote for her either over anybody else that was normal. Sanders was too far left.

Trump though...my god. Has everybody lost their mind? He's a destroyer.
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Rockie wrote: Has everybody lost their mind? He's a destroyer.
Jeez, the dramatics and hysteria, you've got nothing left but to sit back and watch, you're gonna give yourself an aneurism. The protesters are part of the problem, not the solution. They want to reject division, but in doing so divide the country because people don't think the same as them. Not every person who voted for Trump is a racist bigot. Sure some are, but I would safely hedge my bet, that it is a very small minority but perpetuated by the liberal left media.

Maybe he will surprise, but...

I don't disagree with Old Fella above, he could very well implode, but just goes to show how desperate the people were. He is the only one In Recent memory who has appealed TOO the people not talked AT the people. Hillary reminded me a lot of the former CEO's of RIM. Remember those 2 characters that cost nearly 35,000 people their jobs in my hometown alone? They thought they could dictate what the consumers wanted rather than listen to what they wanted. How's RIM doing now? About the same as the Democratic Party.

Life is NOT great In The USA right now and the divides have been brutal, deeper and more malicious in the 8yrs of Obama than any period since the civil rights movement. And it continues because the Dems have done absolutely nothing to try to ease the tension, in fact they gone the opposite and allowed guys like Soros to fund anarchy. Time to pull up the big boy and girl pants, accept the results, move out of the safe spaces and move on building for 2020. There's where they can make their difference.
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The ACLU predicts a constitutional crisis, which is ironic since one of Trumps more successful cons is returning the US to the way he said "the authors intended for the constitution to be interpreted".

Like he has any idea...

https://action.aclu.org/sites/default/f ... pmemos.pdf
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Rockie wrote: She's not a traitor, and that's not why you and other people hate her. You hate her because you've been programmed to. You hate her so much you prefer the disaster that Trump promises to be.
1.) I don't hate Clinton; I don't trust her, (for very good reasons already well laid out in this and previous threads). One is a cognitive response, the other an affective. Learn to separate the two.
2.) You lack the knowledge to state why anybody's motivations are the way they are. Learn to recognize your own ignorance; It's the first step on the road to wisdom.
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And yet you trust Trump.

That's called cognitive bias in the face of overwhelming evidence that you would be a fool to do so.

Learn about that.
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Rockie wrote:And yet you trust Trump.

That's called cognitive bias in the face of overwhelming evidence that you would be a fool to do so.

Learn about that.
anyone who trusts any politician is a fool! That's nothing new. What else have you got?
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I'm just glad you guys are doing this here. I've got a guy that will drone on about it for 4 days straight in the cockpit of our aircraft. I love two-way discussion and debate, but to yammer on without taking a breath makes for one hell of a long day.

Just a happy reminder to go easy on the politics in the cockpit. If the guy next to you cracks open the AIM or CAP GEN while you're going on about this election, take the hint.
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cdnpilot77 wrote:
Rockie wrote:And yet you trust Trump.

That's called cognitive bias in the face of overwhelming evidence that you would be a fool to do so.

Learn about that.
anyone who trusts any politician is a fool! That's nothing new. What else have you got?
That's very true, but in this case it's a matter of scale in a binary choice. Millions of people think Clinton is less trustworthy than Trump, which makes anyone not suffering from cognitive bias weep with despair over the future of the human race.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities ... y-clinton/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
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Rockie wrote:And yet you trust Trump.

That's called cognitive bias in the face of overwhelming evidence that you would be a fool to do so.

Learn about that.

Again with the unchecked assumptions Rockie, (you really would make a poor scientist). Trust is an analog vice a binary concept. I distrust Trump less than I distrust Hillary. I do this based on a risk assessment. Hillary has accepted tremendous amounts of money from racist, homophobic and misogynistic groups (i.e. middle eastern governments) while simultaneously encouraging misandry and racism (BLM etc). Hillary also has acquired enough backroom influence that there would be no effective check or balance on her once she was in power.

Trump may have a thing against non-whites and he tends to appreciate women for their looks. When he takes power he will be faced with a judiciary, a media and a bureaucracy that will work very hard to keep him in check.
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Rockie wrote:I read everything, including CNN and Fox. If I want to truly see how the wild side lives I read Info Wars. Clinton was not a perfect candidate and I wouldn't vote for her either over anybody else that was normal. Sanders was too far left.

Trump though...my god. Has everybody lost their mind? He's a destroyer.
Dude, why can you not accept that people disagree with you?
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B208 wrote:Hillary has accepted tremendous amounts of money from racist, homophobic and misogynistic groups (i.e. middle eastern governments) while simultaneously encouraging misandry and racism (BLM etc).
You might want to do some more homework:

http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton- ... er-2432902

"Hillary Clinton WikiLeaks Emails Reveal Campaign Dismissed Black Lives Matter Concerns With One Word: 'Yuck'"

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked- ... rted-isis/

“We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region,”
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So can one of you Clinton supporters tell me what exactly Hillary had to offer that was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for her speeches? The Clinton's have been given two billion dollars, what exactly do they have to offer in return?

The American voter chose a completely unknown rather than elect her.

Trump is going to the White House.

Hillary may end up in the big house, as in prison.
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CpnCrunch wrote:
B208 wrote:Hillary has accepted tremendous amounts of money from racist, homophobic and misogynistic groups (i.e. middle eastern governments) while simultaneously encouraging misandry and racism (BLM etc).
You might want to do some more homework:

http://www.ibtimes.com/hillary-clinton- ... er-2432902

"Hillary Clinton WikiLeaks Emails Reveal Campaign Dismissed Black Lives Matter Concerns With One Word: 'Yuck'"

http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked- ... rted-isis/

“We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region,”
My home work is very much done:

https://www.romper.com/p/hillary-clinto ... oint-19198

Her she parrots the BLM mantra.


And here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... oundation/

We see that the Saudis have contributed between $10 and $25 million to the Clinton foundation. We don't know the exact number because the foundation doesn't want to tell us.
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Cat Driver wrote:So can one of you Clinton supporters tell me what exactly Hillary had to offer that was worth hundreds of thousands of dollars for her speeches? The Clinton's have been given two billion dollars, what exactly do they have to offer in return?

The American voter chose a completely unknown rather than elect her.

Trump is going to the White House.

Hillary may end up in the big house, as in prison.
I hope so Cat, but I won't breathe easy until the electoral college has voted.
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