Pilot's Licenses

Crispy3M · Post by **Crispy3M** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:32 pm

Have the new American Licences now dropped the use of the individuals Social Security Number? (I think that is what they were using...)

In any event, I had a buddy in the states complaining the other day about not being able to give out his Licence number as it was also his SS Number.

Just wondering, but not Just Curious...

Crispy

chewsta · Post by **chewsta** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:51 pm

Orville and Wilbur... give the guys a little respect

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:09 pm

do you have a passport? I imagine that TC will do the same and charge you $80.00 for the liscence just like the passport office does, even though you already had to pay 5 to 10 for the photo. I'm happy with the way they are. (although they could be made out of better paper, they seem to get worn out pretty quick.) as for the idea of someone forging the document....who cares. The only real place you could use this to your advantage would be at a flying club or the likes.

Actually, I have 2 passports and know how they work. How do you figure TC would charge you $80?? I'm a little unsure how you came to that....all I said was to go get a passport photo and submit it to them for them to put on your licence. That's how you do it when you get a possesion licence, go and get a passport photo send it it and they do the rest. Who cares who forges the documents? Uhh, i'll pretend I didn't read that one as it's too idiotic a thought to even respond to.

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:12 am

Crispy3M wrote:Have the new American Licences now dropped the use of the individuals Social Security Number? (I think that is what they were using...)

In any event, I had a buddy in the states complaining the other day about not being able to give out his Licence number as it was also his SS Number.

Just wondering, but not Just Curious...

Crispy

I am not certain whether they have discontinued this practice for new certificate applications (the US doesn't issue "licences", they are "certificates").

When I got my first US certificates I didn't have a US SSN and so they issued me a shorter, generic number (7 digits versus the 9 digits of a SSN). There was always the option of NOT using your SSN for a certificate number, but I suspect that most people didn't read the fine print on the back of the application form or didn't care. In any case, I applied for a third certificate in the mid-90's after I had received a US SSN, and that third certificate uses my SSN. So now I have 3 different certificates, with 3 different numbers. The FAA has not contacted me to change the number of my certificate with my SSN, and so I think it is the number that I will have for as long as I hold that certificate (for life or until the certificate is revoked or surrendered).

Big_Oaf · Post by **Big_Oaf** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:27 am

confuzed wrote: Actually, I have 2 passports and know how they work. How do you figure TC would charge you $80?? I'm a little unsure how you came to that....all I said was to go get a passport photo and submit it to them for them to put on your licence. That's how you do it when you get a possesion licence, go and get a passport photo send it it and they do the rest. Who cares who forges the documents? Uhh, i'll pretend I didn't read that one as it's too idiotic a thought to even respond to.

well how did you come by your passports then? did someone else pay for you? I went and had mine done about a year ago....picture was $5 at the nearest photo lab, and the proccessing cost $80.00. If I wanted it in less than the two weeks then I could pay another $80.00 and have it the next day. That's where I get the idea from.

By the way...did you realize it is illegal to have more than one passport?

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:34 am

well how did you come by your passports then? did someone else pay for you? I went and had mine done about a year ago....picture was $5 at the nearest photo lab, and the proccessing cost $80.00. If I wanted it in less than the two weeks then I could pay another $80.00 and have it the next day. That's where I get the idea from.

By the way...did you realize it is illegal to have more than one passport?

My god you are not the brightest crayon in the box are you. I don't mean to get personal here, but read my posts! I never said anything about getting a passport style licence, all I said was to get a passport like photo done at Walmart or wherever and submit it to TC for them to put on a plastic licence. How do you think it is done when (again i'll use this example) you get a possesion licence. You go to a photo lab, get a passport photo, stick it in an envelope with the application and voila! You have your picture on the licence which is plastic. That $80 comes from the processing of your passport, not an existing licence. Even when you go get your picture taken for a drivers licence it only costs about $10 for a new picture, and that's put directly on your licence as well.

Oh and by the way, how do you figure it's illegal to have more then one passport? Guess you've never heard of dual citizenship?

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:45 am

Actual, it is even possible to have more than 1 Canadian passport at a time, but not to everybody and not for any occasion.

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:22 am

Panama Jack wrote:Actual, it is even possible to have more than 1 Canadian passport at a time, but not to everybody and not for any occasion.

Underground passports don't count PJ

Just kidding. I've never heard of that one before, that's cool. Having dual citizenship is great, since with an EU passport you can work practically anywhere in Europe (If you can afford to the licence conversion, which I can't yet). I just wish that I could get an American one as well without having to give up the EU one.

Big_Oaf · Post by **Big_Oaf** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:07 pm

I'm not being understood, i guess we are having a misunderstanding here. I did a little searching and sure enough you are allowed to have two passports. I WAS WRONG. But I could swear that I saw something once saying that you could only hold a passport for your counrty of permanent residence. I also know how the fees work on the passport. I said TC may charge $80.00 because I was just making a direct reference to the passport fees. Who knows what they would charge, but I imaging that they would increase the cost.

As for this....

My god you are not the brightest crayon in the box are you. I don't mean to get personal here, but read my posts!

I think you are making it personal, I am not. You have resorted to insults....where and when did I insult you?

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:00 pm

confuzed wrote:Underground passports don't count PJ Just kidding.

Don't worry about it. It's not a business that I am running on the side out of the trunk of my Tercel.

confuzed · Post by **confuzed** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:07 pm

As for this....
My god you are not the brightest crayon in the box are you. I don't mean to get personal here, but read my posts!
I think you are making it personal, I am not. You have resorted to insults....where and when did I insult you?

Like I said, I didn't mean to make it personal, but how many times must a situation be explained and someone to tell you that you're wrong or suggest it before it hits home?. If you took it the wrong way, I'm sorry. Sure enough they may charge something, but wouldn't it cost less to have something a little bit more durable? I'd be willing to pay $10 or so like the drivers licence to have something more durable, if they want a picture on it so be it. I was just stating that it's fairly easy to do, and would not involve as much cost as some might think.

LT · Post by LT » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:33 pm

Kinkos will laminate for $5...

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 3:48 pm

Pssst... hey fellas... The Canadian AME licences (which had been exactly the same as pilot licences, except a different colour), issued by the same agency of the same government, were all converted to plastic photo-style licences a while back (is this thing working? Hello?

)...

Ten dollars? I think you're dreaming! When I renewed mine back in January, I believe it cost $75.00

Apache64_ · Post by **Apache64_** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:06 pm

Griffon, just outta curiosity, how often do you have to renew your licence?

I talked to a TC type a few months ago on this very subject. He said they are looking at chaning over to plastic they are just trying the best option. The biggest concern they had was how would they sign off a license for a rating/licence after a flight test. I figured they could use something like they have on the back of a credit card.

Cheers

Apache

Post by **avcanada** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:54 pm

Crispy3M wrote:Have the new American Licences now dropped the use of the individuals Social Security Number? (I think that is what they were using...)

In any event, I had a buddy in the states complaining the other day about not being able to give out his Licence number as it was also his SS Number.

Just wondering, but not Just Curious...

Crispy

Crispy you can request that your SSN be removed from your FAA licence by accessing the FAA webpage. The process is easy and free. This will also give you the new plastic version. They mailed me out my new licences in two weeks. You can also access the FAA webpage to change/update your address ............

The link is http://registry.faa.gov/airmen.asp

If you have FAA tickets the above link is a good one to bookmark.

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:26 pm

Apache64_ wrote:The biggest concern they had was how would they sign off a license for a rating/licence after a flight test. I figured they could use something like they have on the back of a credit card.

This is TC's biggest concern?

The answer is already there, and can only be answered by asking another question. "What do you do if you get an additional rating/licence after having gotten a sign-off on the back of your existing licence (ie. one week after you get signed-off for your Commercial you get a Group I Instrument rating)?"

The answer is a little white form, the size of half a licence, that accompanies your existing licence until it is replaced by one from TC. None of this is rocket science. No wonder it wasn't Canada that put a man on the moon.

ZLIN 142C · Post by **ZLIN 142C** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 10:55 pm

Actually, indirectly, we did.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:43 am

We did? That's a laugh. It was good old Americans like Herr Doktor Verner fon Braun.

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:57 am

Well the Americans did poney up the dough for the Apollo project. But look at Zlins pic, yes thats right all the engineers that were working on the Arrow being out of work because of Deifenbaker (Prime Minister at the time) went to the Apollo project and in fact their were more Canadians working on the Apollo project than any other nationality other than Americans of course. But lets not kid oursleves we did good but it was a Yankee initiative. Although Canada was the 3rd country to have a satalite in orbit behind the Soviets and US so a bronze medal isnt bad.

But it was all staged anyway on a hollywood movie set anyway so their.

PS. just get a membership to COPA and they send you this snappy AirCrew licence in plastic Credit card form.

Mitch Cronin · Post by **Mitch Cronin** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:20 pm

Apache,

Apache64_ wrote:how often do you have to renew your licence?

I was about to say 5 years, but I just looked... issued 2004, expires 2010
So... every 6 years.

Our endorsements used to be tracked and written on the licence (when it was the paper variety) so we'd have to get it renewed every time we got a new one... Now, the plastic card only states the type of licence... individual endorsements aren't mentioned at all. That record is kept by the companies we work for (and ourselves, of course).

Cheers,

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