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Wow, a guaranteed interview! That and $1.25 will get you a coffee at Timmie's.fasteddie wrote:First, the guaranteed Jazz interview right now takes longer to get than an off the street interview. As interviewing slows down interviews will be harder come by and that guaranteed interview will be an excellent prospect.
Well said. The reality is that most young people getting into aviation are not thinking about flying a "small" airplane their whole career or even profit sharing. It's got nothing to do with EGO when you're in your teens or twenties. It's all about a dream. And in most cases it lasts forever. The bitterness takes place when it doesn't happen. That's when "maturity" should kick in.prop2jet wrote:Passion in aviation is what you make of it. For most the allure of the bigger plane is driven by Money and in more than a few EGO. It takes a certain level of maturity to realize that you can still do well in this industry and not fly the heavy metal.I still believe the majority of young kids who want to be pilots still aim at flying heavy iron all over the world. Not just for the money but for the passion.
Correct me if I'm wrong but when you work at Jazz and your number comes up for AC, are you not guaranteed an interview? I don't think you're guaranteed an interview anwhere else. If your interview goes well, you're given a seniority number, right? Those of us who came up through Jazz might not have made it to the mainline otherwise. That's a simple fact. That's a simple perk. My point is you have to pass the interview just like anyone else but unlike anywhere else you are guaranteed a shot at it.Dark Helmet wrote:Tony.
I think you missed my point. I meant in a sense of going to AC as a Jazz perk, not career aspirarions.
Your argument is that of a prospect of employment with AC is a perk with Jazz. disagree. Here is why.
Say you have 2 pilots. Both with the same experience. One goes to Jazz, the other goes to say another carrier, Geogian, CMA, Calm Air, you pick.
The pilot that went to the other airline could potentially be at AC within 10 months to a year.
The Jazz pilot will have to wait for 1.5 year just ot get a call, then a few months to get the job offer, then another few months to get the course date. Finally after 2 years to be at AC. I can see why the bitterness and fustration in some, timing is big thing in a hiring spree.
In the end. Being a Jazz does not improve you chances of being at AC, I would say it is about the same, It may even delay it due to the political nature between our two companies.
As far as career aspirations goes. I agree, most want to fly the big iron. Myself included at one time. Today I kinda like the short haul, hand flying, uncontrolled airspace, etc. but just is just me. That is not so say that I will never fly the big iron.
When you were hired the OTS/Regional hire ratio was far higher. It was even written in LOU20. Now its not. It ain't what it used to be, is all that is being stated. 
tony, you are wrong in that statement. The only guarantee the Jazz pilots have is the old lou18 that guaranteed an interview. I don't even know if that applies anymore and even if it does, the only guarantee a Jazz pilot has is of the interview. After that, the ratio of Jazz/OTS is very low on the Jazz side.AC's new hiring practices are more confusing than ever and there are no guarantees for anyone, except Jazz pilots
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