ATPL Application process tips

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Re: ATPL Application process tips

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Has anyone submitted all documents in person to Surrey recently? How long did it take for everything to be approved?
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Can someone please clarify what exactly is ATPL 421.34 (5) Skill involves.

(5) Skill

(a) Within the 12 months preceding the date of application for the licence, an applicant shall demonstrate in a multi-engined aeroplane with no central thrust configuration and fitted with instruments and equipment suitable for IFR flight in controlled airspace, familiarity with and the ability:
(amended 1999/03/01)
(i) to perform both normal and emergency flight procedures and manoeuvres appropriate to the aeroplane in which the flight test is conducted; and
(ii) to execute all manoeuvres and procedures set forth in Division XIV for issue of a Group 1 instrument rating.
(b) For issue of the Airline Transport Pilot Licence - Aeroplane, the Minister shall only endorse a Group 1 Instrument Rating on the licence. (amended 2005/06/01)

Say you are an FO on a 705 ops, do you need to do a level D sim ride as acting captain? have a PPC completed and valid? Or something else?
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PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
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ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:43 am PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
Can it be a pcc?
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ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:43 am PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
Group 1 Mandatory on a Level D Sim? I have a PC12NG PPC ride on Level D in 2 weeks. Last flight test was IFR in Sept 2022
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Xani96 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:46 pm
ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:43 am PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
Group 1 Mandatory on a Level D Sim? I have a PC12NG PPC ride on Level D in 2 weeks. Last flight test was IFR in Sept 2022
Whether it's on a level D or an aircraft, it has to be group 1. Your PC12 ride will not satisfy the requirement
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bueno wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:12 am
Xani96 wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:46 pm
ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:43 am PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
Group 1 Mandatory on a Level D Sim? I have a PC12NG PPC ride on Level D in 2 weeks. Last flight test was IFR in Sept 2022
Whether it's on a level D or an aircraft, it has to be group 1. Your PC12 ride will not satisfy the requirement
Would an IPC on a redbird qualify?
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ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:43 am PPC or group 1 IPC or group 1 initial within past year
PPC can be level C/D sim
group 1 IPC in aircraft
Hi Ruff, this was a response to my question correct? Thanks!
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If my logbook is as a excel file, what is the corect way to submit it to TC? Do I start printing copies? (I know they want it certified, but since my logbook is digital?). Or does TC finally accepts sending them my excel file (digital) to one of their email addresses?
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Me262 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:19 pm If my logbook is as a excel file, what is the corect way to submit it to TC? Do I start printing copies? (I know they want it certified, but since my logbook is digital?). Or does TC finally accepts sending them my excel file (digital) to one of their email addresses?
you can send the file or save as pdf and send that too
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ruffdeezy wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:57 am
Me262 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:19 pm If my logbook is as a excel file, what is the corect way to submit it to TC? Do I start printing copies? (I know they want it certified, but since my logbook is digital?). Or does TC finally accepts sending them my excel file (digital) to one of their email addresses?
you can send the file or save as pdf and send that too
Last time when I had to hand in logs and application, I went in-person to one of their office. Is there an email where I can send that now? Or I need to make an account with TC? (for the digital file or pdf submission - without killing trees printing that PDF)
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Me262 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:19 pm If my logbook is as a excel file, what is the corect way to submit it to TC? Do I start printing copies? (I know they want it certified, but since my logbook is digital?). Or does TC finally accepts sending them my excel file (digital) to one of their email addresses?
You can email them the excel file. Just call the office you’re applying to and they’ll give you the email address. No need for it to be certified
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Anyone able to answer as to whether you can write the exams outside of Canada/remotely? Anyone recently converted from the FAA ATPL to the Canadian version, would appreciate a DM for a chat.
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ATPL exams can only be done at a TC office
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Submitted on May 28th, still no news from TC after 47 business days.
Anybody else having a similar experience with the Dorval Office? (Montreal, QC)
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It reads that the 25 night PIC XC can be part of picus. can anyone confirm?
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Re: ATPL Application process tips

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Hello All,
I was filling out ATPL Application to submit to TC for my ATPL.


I just noticed this:

PART B – LICENSING REQUIREMENTS
4. The “Written Exam” requirement must be met within the 24 months preceding the date of application.

my SAMRA and SARON were written last month, so I am good there.

However, I did my INRAT in 2019 when I did my Multi-IFR.
I have been flying 703 Multi IFR since then, and have gone through a Multi engine PPC every year since then.

Since It has been more than 2 years since writing INRAT, do I really need to write INRAT again?
OR does TC consider my INRAT current because of my PPCs?

Thanks in advance.
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no you don't have to write INRAT again
you obtained the rating within it's validity period and now it doesn't expire
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throwawaycorporate wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 2:29 pm It reads that the 25 night PIC XC can be part of picus. can anyone confirm?
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I am just curious. What is the ruling for the following: 1) You completed a integrated program on say September of 2023, wrote your SAMRA and SARON both in December of 2023.

When will the 5 years Frozen ATPL date start? Would it be from the sign off or from the time you wrote both exams?
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from the date of the first exam passed
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Re: ATPL Application process tips

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MRFarhadi wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:45 pm Submitted on May 28th, still no news from TC after 47 business days.
Anybody else having a similar experience with the Dorval Office? (Montreal, QC)
Foreign conversion ?
Seems like they prioritize conversion over normal applications … but Dorval is special 😭
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