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UndisputedTruth
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Re: Timing the cycle

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rookiepilot wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:30 pm Who’s the absolute idiot who signed the prior contract?

10 years? 2% a year, right?

Gentle Question.

Are you absolutely brain dead?
Whenever I inform my non-aviation people that’s the very reaction I receive.

It wasn’t incompetence but greed and core betrayal of the ACPA MEC members. They were in bed with management and now are mostly moved into management roles themselves.
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flying4dollars wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:16 am
cdnavater wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:31 am
Bingo Fuel wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:20 am

Exactly. I'm expecting TA1 will be somewhere around 30% for new hires, and 25% at the top of the pay scale, all spread over four years.
30% for new hires only brings that up to about 85,000, I’m thinking new hires will get at least 50% and decreasing as you go up to the 25-30% range in the top scale. This from an outsider but realistically where it should be, so I hope I’m right, accountant your thoughts, lol
Your math is off. 30% would put a new hire at $76,700 and 50% would be $88,500.
What is year one pay? For some reason I thought it was 65g, it appears it’s 59g based on your numbers
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Year 1 flat pay is 65.03/hr, which works out to 58,527 annually, according to Crewsware.
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Re: Timing the cycle

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UndisputedTruth wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:11 am
rookiepilot wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 5:30 pm Who’s the absolute idiot who signed the prior contract?

10 years? 2% a year, right?

Gentle Question.

Are you absolutely brain dead?
Whenever I inform my non-aviation people that’s the very reaction I receive.

It wasn’t incompetence but greed and core betrayal of the ACPA MEC members. They were in bed with management and now are mostly moved into management roles themselves.
That’s not a good look for those of you who voted those guys in.

Its like those who voted in their political party and then blame them for their idiocy.

I’d be apologizing. Forever. But of course no one does that now.
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Re: Timing the cycle

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IMO new hire pay needs to go up 100% at least and none of this 4 year flat pay stuff. Max 1-2 years fixed pay. Anyone on formula pay needs a 50% bump at least. That's what the consensus is in the flight deck whenever I fly these days. I don't think the pilot group will vote anything less in.
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Re: Timing the cycle

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cdnavater wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:02 am
flying4dollars wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:16 am
cdnavater wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:31 am

30% for new hires only brings that up to about 85,000, I’m thinking new hires will get at least 50% and decreasing as you go up to the 25-30% range in the top scale. This from an outsider but realistically where it should be, so I hope I’m right, accountant your thoughts, lol
Your math is off. 30% would put a new hire at $76,700 and 50% would be $88,500.
What is year one pay? For some reason I thought it was 65g, it appears it’s 59g based on your numbers
It's about $59k yup. Year 2 is around $64k, year 3 is $74k and year 4 is $85k
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