Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada

[rookiepilot]

NAVARRO: IF TRUMP SUCCEEDS IN TRADE ACTIONS, WE WILL STRUCTURALLY SHIFT AMERICAN ECONOMY FROM OVER-RELIANCE ON INCOME TAXES TO TARIFF REVENUES

NAVARRO: IF TRADE STUDY INDICATES DAMAGES FROM $1 TRILLION GLOBAL U.S. TRADE DEFICIT ARE SIGNIFICANT, THERE IS A POSSBILITY OF A SUPPLEMENTAL GLOBAL TARIFF

[kgb531]

A monkey with an abacus could tell you that all the tariffs in the world wouldn't remotely come close to cover the loss of income taxes. It wouldn't even cover 1 month's interest on the US debt.
At least last term he didn't surround himself with halfwits.

To be clear, just as in Mexico, there will not be a single, new person working the border.
Mexican broadcasters were already mentioning that they are using the same 10K government employees they promised 8 years ago to fill the promised 10K.
The same thing will occur in Canada.
Trump won't care because he doesn't care about fentanyl or the border.
He simply doesn't understand how tariffs work. Makes you wonder if the rumors of his father buying his son's way into Penn and then donating a building so he would get a degree are more than just rumors.

So...Canada has 10,000 soldiers at the ready.

Just last week, didn't trudope say that the border was secure? What happened between the last 5 days ?

He 100% understands, he just wants to offset his promise of eliminating income tax with another source of revenue.

[cdnavater]

NAVARRO: IF TRUMP SUCCEEDS IN TRADE ACTIONS, WE WILL STRUCTURALLY SHIFT AMERICAN ECONOMY FROM OVER-RELIANCE ON INCOME TAXES TO TARIFF REVENUES

NAVARRO: IF TRADE STUDY INDICATES DAMAGES FROM $1 TRILLION GLOBAL U.S. TRADE DEFICIT ARE SIGNIFICANT, THERE IS A POSSBILITY OF A SUPPLEMENTAL GLOBAL TARIFF

Anyone who thought Trumps issues with the border were the real problem are extremely gullible, it was clear to anyone with half a brain cell he had an agenda outside of the border issue.
The 30 day reprieve will give Canada a chance to source alternatives and find new customers for our products!
We are a country with 10% of the population and only have a 50 billion trade deficit, if you include the natural resources, if you exclude it we have a surplus, we obviously take more of their stuff than they take of ours on a per capita basis.
Time to put Canada first and bring home any manufacturing we can, maybe now we can have grade a lumber instead of the leftovers that don’t go to the U.S. they literally ship the best of our lumber products to them and keep the seconds for us, yet it’s cheaper to go across and buy it there, bring it home for use.
I’ve done it many times over the years, drywall was the same thing, cheaper to drive south, but it and pay duty, then my local hardware store.
With the dollar and of course policy changes, that is no longer the case, have to pay the higher Canadian price now.
That’s why it has been hard to sell Canadians on buy local, the price is artificially higher for some reason!

[DanWEC]

This trade war that didn't happen, and won't happen..... a lot of bluster, a laughably fake fentanyl premise, and almost monopolizing news coverage on the EXACT days that Musk is being given forced access to the treasury and everyone's data, which is being pushed from the headlines. Far too coincidental of a gigantic, go-nowhere distraction to sit right with me.

[pelmet]

Ideal outcome.......inter-provincial tariffs are removed, oil and gas pipelines approved and construction started quickly as part of a new national strategy to east and west coasts in order to never again be in such a position, dairy cartel is broken up(only Trump can achieve that through blunt force) and trudeau resigns quickly in humiliation to be replaced by a temporary PM, and 'Bob' votes conservative in the next election. Trump claims a big victory and we actually are the winners.

We will see what happens.

Also what use is a pipeline without a refinery? Private industry wouldn’t want to fund it due to the looooooong payback period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Ea ... y%20Quebec.

The plans didn't need a refinery as seen in the wikipedia article about energy east.

This is now like the Trans-Canada Railway......something needed to build the nation.

[Inverted2]

Ideal outcome.......inter-provincial tariffs are removed, oil and gas pipelines approved and construction started quickly as part of a new national strategy to east and west coasts in order to never again be in such a position, dairy cartel is broken up(only Trump can achieve that through blunt force) and trudeau resigns quickly in humiliation to be replaced by a temporary PM, and 'Bob' votes conservative in the next election. Trump claims a big victory and we actually are the winners.

We will see what happens.

Also what use is a pipeline without a refinery? Private industry wouldn’t want to fund it due to the looooooong payback period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Ea ... y%20Quebec.

The plans didn't need a refinery as seen in the wikipedia article about energy east.

This is now like the Trans-Canada Railway......something needed to build the nation.

Kaybek is STILL opposing the pipeline. Someone needs to remind them that Trump won’t be so accommodating to their special needs. (Current pipelines cut through the US for those who don’t know)

[rookiepilot]

Premier Legault, when questioned about pipelines following the announcement of a 30-day suspension of tariffs, stated that there is no intention to revive the Energy East project.

Case closed.

[newlygrounded]

Premier Legault, when questioned about pipelines following the announcement of a 30-day suspension of tariffs, stated that there is no intention to revive the Energy East project.

Case closed.

Why do you feel they are so against the idea?

[oldncold]

Nice that we still have the freedom to debate ,exchange barbs. . If we continue to starve our military of the size and equipment to defend 9.3 million sq/km how much longer will that continue with this pile of resources wealth.

N kgb comical. You dont know jack. Just ask a survivor of the invasion of poland everything i said is doable. .

[khedrei]

What didn't "they" stand up for when it mattered?
Are you mad because those who don't think like you outnumber you 10:1?
Are you suggesting 77M out of 400M Americans got it right?

At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.

When did the US population reach 400 million?

[kgb531]

Tree fiddy. I was including the 51st state, Panama and Greenland.

What didn't "they" stand up for when it mattered?
Are you mad because those who don't think like you outnumber you 10:1?
Are you suggesting 77M out of 400M Americans got it right?

At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.

When did the US population reach 400 million?

[newlygrounded]

A monkey with an abacus could tell you that all the tariffs in the world wouldn't remotely come close to cover the loss of income taxes. It wouldn't even cover 1 month's interest on the US debt.
At least last term he didn't surround himself with halfwits.

To be clear, just as in Mexico, there will not be a single, new person working the border.
Mexican broadcasters were already mentioning that they are using the same 10K government employees they promised 8 years ago to fill the promised 10K.
The same thing will occur in Canada.
Trump won't care because he doesn't care about fentanyl or the border.
He simply doesn't understand how tariffs work. Makes you wonder if the rumors of his father buying his son's way into Penn and then donating a building so he would get a degree are more than just rumors.

He 100% understands, he just wants to offset his promise of eliminating income tax with another source of revenue.

Remember, he’s planning on cutting Social Security and lots of other massive programs

[khedrei]

A monkey with an abacus could tell you that all the tariffs in the world wouldn't remotely come close to cover the loss of income taxes. It wouldn't even cover 1 month's interest on the US debt.
At least last term he didn't surround himself with halfwits.

He 100% understands, he just wants to offset his promise of eliminating income tax with another source of revenue.

Remember, he’s planning on cutting Social Security and lots of other massive programs

And if liberals could only remember that nothing is free, and eventually you run out of money, perhaps there could be gone middle ground.

[newlygrounded]

A monkey with an abacus could tell you that all the tariffs in the world wouldn't remotely come close to cover the loss of income taxes. It wouldn't even cover 1 month's interest on the US debt.
At least last term he didn't surround himself with halfwits.

Remember, he’s planning on cutting Social Security and lots of other massive programs

And if liberals could only remember that nothing is free, and eventually you run out of money, perhaps there could be gone middle ground.

Weird, out of all the things you could’ve criticized the money people paid into their whole working lives for retirement is your pick?

[rookiepilot]

A monkey with an abacus could tell you that all the tariffs in the world wouldn't remotely come close to cover the loss of income taxes. It wouldn't even cover 1 month's interest on the US debt.
At least last term he didn't surround himself with halfwits.

He 100% understands, he just wants to offset his promise of eliminating income tax with another source of revenue.

Remember, he’s planning on cutting Social Security and lots of other massive programs

Where did he say he was ever cutting social security?

[khedrei]

Remember, he’s planning on cutting Social Security and lots of other massive programs

And if liberals could only remember that nothing is free, and eventually you run out of money, perhaps there could be gone middle ground.

Weird, out of all the things you could’ve criticized the money people paid into their whole working lives for retirement is your pick?

I wasn't picking retirement specifically, though I understand your post was about social security. Sorry for the confusion. It was a general comment.

There are plenty of things people paid into that they aren't guaranteed to get. Though I think retirement is important, and people don't deserve to lose it, systems that collapse don't discriminate. In fact, the most expensive ones are likely to fall the hardest. It doesn't matter what you deserve, and how hard people worked, when the money runs out the money runs out. Liberals seem to think it's a tap than can run forever without anyone paying for it.

I don't think we should lose our healthcare either. But if it keeps going like this, we will. Or we will end up trading it for something else... like roads, retirement, schools, or military.

[rookiepilot]

And if liberals could only remember that nothing is free, and eventually you run out of money, perhaps there could be gone middle ground.

Weird, out of all the things you could’ve criticized the money people paid into their whole working lives for retirement is your pick?

I wasn't picking retirement specifically, though I understand your post was about social security. Sorry for the confusion. It was a general comment.

There are plenty of things people paid into that they aren't guaranteed to get. Though I think retirement is important, and people don't deserve to lose it, systems that collapse don't discriminate. In fact, the most expensive ones are likely to fall the hardest. It doesn't matter what you deserve, and how hard people worked, when the money runs out the money runs out. Liberals seem to think it's a tap than can run forever without anyone paying for it.

I don't think we should lose our healthcare either. But if it keeps going like this, we will. Or we will end up trading it for something else... like roads, retirement, schools, or military.

Put money into schools, military, productive infrastructure. Anything to help young families.

Gladly Fry the rich baby boomer retirees who looted the system with higher retirement ages, cuts to social security, much higher property taxes, means tests, user fees.

Oh, and remove voting rights after age 80, lower voting age to 16.

[khedrei]

I would raise voting age to 25, and remove it from anyone who 65, or is retired.

Have you met any 16 year old lately. I got news for you. They are WAY dumber than you and I were when we were 16.

[newlygrounded]

I would raise voting age to 25, and remove it from anyone who 65, or is retired.

Have you met any 16 year old lately. I got news for you. They are WAY dumber than you and I were when we were 16.

People have been saying this for 2000 years, ex Socrates:

They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Or this one? "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves

[rookiepilot]

I would raise voting age to 25, and remove it from anyone who 65, or is retired.

Have you met any 16 year old lately. I got news for you. They are WAY dumber than you and I were when we were 16.

People have been saying this for 2000 years, ex Socrates:

They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Or this one? "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves

A ton of Boomers think of nothing but themselves.

[khedrei]

I would raise voting age to 25, and remove it from anyone who 65, or is retired.

Have you met any 16 year old lately. I got news for you. They are WAY dumber than you and I were when we were 16.

People have been saying this for 2000 years, ex Socrates:

They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Or this one? "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves

I wonder why people have been saying it for 2000 years?

Could it be that it's true?

No question the average teenager today is dumber and less capable than I was as a teenager.

The same way the average teenager in my day was dumber and less capable than my parents generation.

There are many reasons for it. Some of which are not the fault of the dumb 16 year old. But its still true.

[newlygrounded]

I would raise voting age to 25, and remove it from anyone who 65, or is retired.

Have you met any 16 year old lately. I got news for you. They are WAY dumber than you and I were when we were 16.

People have been saying this for 2000 years, ex Socrates:

They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Or this one? "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves

I wonder why people have been saying it for 2000 years?

Could it be that it's true?

No question the average teenager today is dumber and less capable than I was as a teenager.

The same way the average teenager in my day was dumber and less capable than my parents generation.

There are many reasons for it. Some of which are not the fault of the dumb 16 year old. But its still true.

I don’t think this is fair to say at all, look at all the changes teens are dealing with in this world that didn’t exist 40 years ago?

Then add the worst income inequality in history and the fact none of them will be able to afford a house

[khedrei]

People have been saying this for 2000 years, ex Socrates:

They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers." Or this one? "The young people of today think of nothing but themselves

I wonder why people have been saying it for 2000 years?

Could it be that it's true?

No question the average teenager today is dumber and less capable than I was as a teenager.

The same way the average teenager in my day was dumber and less capable than my parents generation.

There are many reasons for it. Some of which are not the fault of the dumb 16 year old. But its still true.

I don’t think this is fair to say at all, look at all the changes teens are dealing with in this world that didn’t exist 40 years ago?

Then add the worst income inequality in history and the fact none of them will be able to afford a house

I totally agree that they have to deal with more, and are worse off. AND they are dumber and less capable than i was at 16.

I did say there are many reasons for it, and lots of ways to explain in. It sucks, and i dont fault them for it. But it's still true.

[pelmet]

I still think we might be able to benefit from all this with new pipelines, change to the Dairy marketing board, and increased natural resource development.

[rookiepilot]

If we can get our thumbs out of our butts