Air Canada Flt#88

[Old fella]

I wish stupid passengers would listen up to flight crew instructions when flying through and in an around areas of turbulence. I witnessed countless examples of silly people not adhering to instructions when flight conditions are rough. I have zero sympathy for those who do not strap in when seated if they are injured as a result of a rough ride.

[tbaylx]

I wish stupid passengers would listen up to flight crew instructions when flying through and in an around areas of turbulence. I witnessed countless examples of silly people not adhering to instructions when flight conditions are rough. I have zero sympathy for those who do not strap in when seated if they are injured as a result of a rough ride.

I believe this was a painful lesson for those that didn't have their belts fastened. I would bet that in the future they will do so. Most pax don't fasten belts through ignorance of the consequences, hopefully some learn through the mistakes of others.

[crazyaviator]

Having a few dozen experiences in the cabin wherin the seat belt light was on for no "apparent" reason, I can understand why the ignorant travelling public loose the sense of urgency. There are also those personality types , equipped with past experience, and with an air of invincibility , throw caution to the wind and dare to challenge the status-quo and keep those pesky seat belts off. All is well until the inevitible head meets ceiling experience, followed by the lower body firmly contacting something solid and painful and destructive !

[av8ts]

Passengers not wearing seatbelts will be subject to natural selection

[esp803]

Darwin is the "Seat Belt Sign" of Chisel air.

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[ragbagflyer]

Anybody have any insight on why the rules or regs can't or don't state that seat belts are required at all times when the seatbelt light is OFF with the exception to this rule being when passengers have to go to move up and down the aisle or access the overhead bins? It seems pretty straight forward. Meanwhile they make a point of saying to keep buckled up for the entire taxi to the gate - a prudent practice, but to my knowledge dozens of people have never been injured and hospitalized between the runway and the gate (sombody will probably prove me wrong on this point....)

[jschnurr]

Meanwhile they make a point of saying to keep buckled up for the entire taxi to the gate - a prudent practice, but to my knowledge dozens of people have never been injured and hospitalized between the runway and the gate (sombody will probably prove me wrong on this point....)

Not sure if anyone was injured here or not, but I wouldn't want to be unbuckled when it hit...
https://youtu.be/SpLd-t1tcJU

[Broken Slinky]

Having a few dozen experiences in the cabin wherin the seat belt light was on for no "apparent" reason, I can understand why the ignorant travelling public loose the sense of urgency.

The last 50+ commercial flights I've been on, the pre-flight safety blah blah blah has stated that when we are in our seats, whether the belt light is on or not, we should buckle our belts for safety.
Unfortunately it takes events like this to enlighten people as to why they make that statement.

[Heliian]

enlighten people

Ha, good one.


I was talking with a non-aviation friend and they said that this article was an eye opener and that they had once scoffed at the need for a belt but will be now following the recommended usage of belts.

For those travelling with small children, may I reccomend the c.a.r.e.s. harness.

[Stubby Phillips]

Doesn't matter how much you weigh. At -1g a 300lb mangiacake is gonna be airborne.
I just hope he doesn't crash down on top of me. Wear your bloody seatbelts everyone.

[pelmet]

Here was the first flight...

"The Air Canada Boeing 777-200 aircraft, C-FNNH, operating as flight ACA016, was en route from
Chek Lap Kok/Hong Kong Intl, China (VHHH) to Toronto/LBPIA, ON (CYYZ). During cruise at
FL350, approximately 55 nautical miles NE of Anchorage, AK while in US airspace, the flight
encountered sustained moderate turbulence over a period of twenty minutes. On two occasions
during this period, the turbulence briefly intensified to severe. Due to a SIGMET, the turbulence
was anticipated by the crew and the fasten seat belt sign was turned on approximately 15 minutes
before the encounter. During one of the periods of severe intensity, a flight attendant received a
minor injury in the crew rest area. The flight crew filed a PIREP with ATC and relayed the details of
the encounter to company dispatch. The aircraft continued to destination and landed without
further event.

A company aircraft (ACA088, B777), approximately 90 minutes in trail of ACA016, encountered the
same area of turbulence and suffered more serious injuries (A15F0165)."

[crazyaviator]

In trail, 90 min warning ? Why were the flight attendants still not buckled in ???

[co-joe]

Doesn't matter how much you weigh. At -1g a 300lb mangiacake is gonna be airborne.
I just hope he doesn't crash down on top of me. Wear your bloody seatbelts everyone.

Bwa ha ha what's that? I googled it and the first hit was "the 300 Lb Vegan"

[hydro]

Mangia Cake

"Cake eater". A derogatory term used by blue collar Italo-Canadians used to describe commercialized middle-class WASPs. Italo-Canadians would view the typical daily diet of fellow WASP workers to be based on refined white flour and sugar.