Fort McMurray mandatory evac

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Re: Fort McMurray mandatory evac

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Just was to send a quick shoutout to all the crews that has been working hard last few days, All flight crews, all first responders, Ground Personels, ATC and Navcanada, volunteers and many more. I was dispatched yesterday to continue to evac non-ambulatory patients to Edmonton. Seeing everyone work together to get the job done was amazing to see. Kudos to the night crew who flew all night and got most of the patients out. I'm not here to rant, just to say cheers to everyone who is helping out is this difficult time. keep it up boys!
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Re: Fort McMurray mandatory evac

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Any thoughts on when commercial AC and WS will resume service as a ball park?
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And yet the first government to offer aid was, dundunduh. Saskatchewans brad wall beat notley out of the gate

Our head of emerg mgmt has reached out to counterpart in Alberta to see if SK can help. Our thoughts & prayers are w/ people of Ft McMurray.

— Brad Wall (@PremierBradWall) May 3, 2016
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Re: Fort McMurray mandatory evac

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rigpiggy wrote:And yet the first government to offer aid was, dundunduh. Saskatchewans brad wall beat notley out of the gate
That is so ridiculously untrue.

Shame on you for politicizing this disaster when Alberta agencies and responders have been working around the clock to keep people safe.
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According to the Premier during her press conference Westjet is responsible for all the airlift and the CBC national news reports it's only Westjet and Air Canada moving evacuees out of the oil sands airports.
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Leaving it to the experts. Good plan.
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MrWings wrote:Leaving it to the experts. Good plan.
Yup the experts at spinning the media.
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MrWings wrote:
rigpiggy wrote:And yet the first government to offer aid was, dundunduh. Saskatchewans brad wall beat notley out of the gate
That is so ridiculously untrue.

Shame on you for politicizing this disaster when Alberta agencies and responders have been working around the clock to keep people safe.
The responders are doing all they can, but were hampered by budgetary restrictions until it was too late. Who do I blame for that?

Remember politicians aren't voted in, their voted out
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FICU wrote:According to the Premier during her press conference Westjet is responsible for all the airlift and the CBC national news reports it's only Westjet and Air Canada moving evacuees out of the oil sands airports.
WJ, Jazz and Can north have been in and out of numerous local strips in evac and aid efforts. Kudos to all the crews.. I know our scheduling as well as Wj's were overwhelmed by crews asking how they could help. Just talked to a buddy who was in and out of Albian in the Dash..
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Rowdy wrote: Kudos to all the crews..
Most definitely all the crews from all the airlines involved! 5T alone moved around 5100 people yesterday and the effort continues.
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rigpiggy wrote:
MrWings wrote:
rigpiggy wrote:And yet the first government to offer aid was, dundunduh. Saskatchewans brad wall beat notley out of the gate
That is so ridiculously untrue.

Shame on you for politicizing this disaster when Alberta agencies and responders have been working around the clock to keep people safe.
The responders are doing all they can, but were hampered by budgetary restrictions until it was too late. Who do I blame for that?

Remember politicians aren't voted in, their voted out
Budgetary restrictions - nonsense. A.) It's early in the season, so there's plenty of money in the kitty. If it were late in the season, then that might be an argument, but even then, fires are an emergency, and budgets tend to get thrown out in that case. (Look at BC last year for proof of that point.) And, B.) while the aeroplane contracts may have had the number of days pared down, it appears that it is the end dates that have been changed http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/a ... -1.3543978
Also, it's the non-political fire staff who are in charge of assessing danger levels, and allocating resources to match those levels; blaming all of this on Notley is just trying to make political hay out of a tragedy. I didn't see fingers getting pointed at Redford when Slave Lake was on fire; but then, she was a Conservative....

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And don't forget the oil companies are supplying their own aircraft, ground crews, paying for and arranging charter aircraft, providing lodging and food for YMM residents, and even space for things like medical care.

AC and WJ are doing lots, but the big dirty oil companies are doing it for free AND paying the bills.
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I just want to say Thank You to the brave pilots and other personnel involved in helping to save my home. Words cannot describe how terrifying it was to evacuate from the city. It was exactly like something out of a movie. Thank you Thank you for working tirelessly to kill this B!$%* of a fire and Thank you to the other crews rescuing my friends who are trapped in the camps. I know a lot of people have bad things to say about Fort McMurray, but it;s my home and has given me so much and helped me start my flying career. Please give support any way you can as people are going through one of the worst times of their lives.
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Donate to Red Cross - Fed will match..
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You ever work in the airline industry? Ever been extended beyond contract? Ever been told we don't want to burn our reserves(crew). This is normally done so some vp can get a bonus.

Ratfraud was alying thief, Notley and her ministers just seem incompetent.....

And though i have particularly libertarian views i dislike almost all politicians.....
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rigpiggy wrote:And though i have particularly libertarian views i dislike almost all politicians.....
Who doesn't? But blaming anything to do with this fire on any politician is ridiculous unless the investigation finds out one of them lit the match.
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Elliot Moose wrote:AC and WJ are doing lots, but the big dirty oil companies are doing it for free AND paying the bills.
Yes we are. Im up here still at work, were one of the only plants still running.

We've taken in evacuees at our work camps to provide a temporary place until we move them to Edmonton or Calgary.
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Rockie wrote:
rigpiggy wrote:And though i have particularly libertarian views i dislike almost all politicians.....
Who doesn't? But blaming anything to do with this fire on any politician is ridiculous unless the investigation finds out one of them lit the match.
Rockie wrote: Where did i blame the fire on the politicos? Just the slow response. Notley cut the fire budget not only in the aircraft but also the on the ground personnel.

In other news, the queens cowboys are kicking in doors just like in High River.


http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/201 ... urray.html

Sorry, but this sh1t has to stop, they were given notice to evacuate. At that time leave them to their own devices. Maybe they dont have insurance, and they want to save the home, whatever stay the f@ck out of their homes
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rigpiggy wrote:Where did i blame the fire on the politicos? Just the slow response. Notley cut the fire budget not only in the aircraft but also the on the ground personnel.
That doesn't mean the Alberta government responded after any other including Saskatchewan as your original post claims. Nor do you have any reason to imply the response would have been faster last year or any year previous under any government. Finally people who never miss an opportunity to call left wing governments "tax and spend", and incessantly claim they'll cause financial ruin always seem to be the same ones criticizing them for cutting expenses.
rigpiggy wrote:In other news, the queens cowboys are kicking in doors just like in High River.
It's their job to make sure everybody is out and safe. Quit bitching and maybe thank them for eating smoke and risking their own safety on behalf of your ungrateful ass instead.
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Uhhh, No no exigent circumstance, immediate threat passed, stay the hell out. Locks only deter honest people......
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rigpiggy wrote:Uhhh, No no exigent circumstance, immediate threat passed, stay the hell out. Locks only deter honest people......
Evacuation order remains as does the danger or it would be lifted. Once again it's their job, and you'd be the first and loudest one vilifying the "queen's cowboys" for dereliction of duty if somebody died as a result of them not doing it. Give it a rest Rigpiggy.
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If you really think, breaking into a locked house, and dragging out the occupants is acceptable behavior. Maybe you think that Trudeau went too far in bringing in the Charter......Biggest Problem was to get Quebec on board they didn't put in property rights, funny they still haven't signed it.
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Mass evacuation of 80,000 folks under extreme conditions and duress. No lives were lost, thank Christ for that, all are put up at facilities, being fed, looked after as best as humanely possible, support from all ends of the country including oil companies, various airlines, all levels of Government. Somebody somewhere has done something right. But whatever, I will let the usual narks on this site nitpick with their usual drivel…………….
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rigpiggy wrote:
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/201 ... urray.html

Sorry, but this sh1t has to stop, they were given notice to evacuate. At that time leave them to their own devices. Maybe they dont have insurance, and they want to save the home, whatever stay the f@ck out of their homes
Or maybe to secure all the other vacant homes from looters. There have been reports of some stragglers looting. If you clear everyone out it takes way less law enforcement that can be used else where. :idea:
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rigpiggy wrote:If you really think, breaking into a locked house, and dragging out the occupants is acceptable behavior. Maybe you think that Trudeau went too far in bringing in the Charter......Biggest Problem was to get Quebec on board they didn't put in property rights, funny they still haven't signed it.
What in the hell does the Charter of Rights and Freedoms have to do with this? Go grind your irrelevant axe somewhere else...there must be a purely right wing political bitchfest forum somewhere on the web....

Or, just watch the news and catch up on the enormity of what's going on up in Fort Mac.
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