AZ vaccine suspended (again) May 11 2021

[notwhoyouthinkIam]

Before they were saying it should be 3 weeks between doses. Then it could be 2 months or whenever one is available.

They said you can’t mix doses, now they are saying you can. These “experts” have no clue and change the rules as it suits them. For now I am saying no thanks to any vaccines.

You sound like someone who missed the class where they taught you how to use critical thinking. I don't think that you are the right type of person to be operating an airplane.

Well take your vaccines then. Hopefully it works out for you.

I took it. Only side effect is better cell coverage.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

I took it. Only side effect is better cell coverage.

I've noticed some more Starlink constellations flying by, too. Must be the vaccine.

[telex]

It's a sign of strength to make decisions based on the best evidence available at the time.That improves trust. However, if you're mistrustful and cynical to begin with then you'll interpret it as either evil or incompetent. Which you do.

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

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[montado]

It's a sign of strength to make decisions based on the best evidence available at the time.That improves trust. However, if you're mistrustful and cynical to begin with then you'll interpret it as either evil or incompetent. Which you do.

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

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Well to be fair, all the potential leaders are racist and incompetent. Trudeau just makes it so obvious

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

It's a sign of strength to make decisions based on the best evidence available at the time.That improves trust. However, if you're mistrustful and cynical to begin with then you'll interpret it as either evil or incompetent. Which you do.

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

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Yes, exactly. Because you yourself have never made a youthful mistake. But if you did, I'm sure it's justifiable in your mind, and his are not.

You know what also takes strength? Deflection, by bringing up an argument completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, because you must know it makes you look like a crazy zealot.

[montado]

It’s only a mistake because he got caught. And I see a difference between telex, who is not running for PM vs someone who holds the position as PM, don’t you? Do you hold people in a position of power more accountable?

You know what takes zero strength, hypocrisy. If another leader had done a racist act you are not likely to forgive them and call it a mistake. You are a Trudeau fan boy, part of the most racist club in Canada.

Not only is the club’s background rich with racism, they continue on with racism today. The common message that Trudeau projects are messaging that:

Black people are not capable

Black people need our help and can’t make it on their own

Black people are poor

Black people are dirty and we should avoid them because they are more likely to have covid

Those among with many other messages about what the “black community is like”

Of course it’s all bullshit. Black people are capable, they can be wealthy, they can be conservative or liberal, they can be straight or gay. The only people interested in projecting what black people look like seems to be liberals. Constantly shoving down oppressive messaging about how black people will never be good enough. How disgusting. Don’t be so proud to cheer the Trudeau racist on. His apologies don’t seem genuine when you watch his continued racism as the PM.

If you have ever received shitty parenting, or counselling growing up you will understand. You know people that beat down on you and tell you what you are... you know like being diagnosed as “slow”. I was told by a teacher I would never be a pilot as I would not be capable of it. My sister was told she was dumb and should focus on trying to be a model. These are small examples of the grand scale of liberal racism. Keep pounding down on people to tell them what they are or should be so that they become that. @#$! that bs. Black people are just as capable, just as smart, and have just as much opportunities as anyone else. Never let your government tell you otherwise. Don’t fall into the victim trap, this is how you end up a systemic victim.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

You know people that beat down on you and tell you what you are...

You are a Trudeau fan boy, part of the most racist club in Canada.

Yup. The proof is in the pudding.

But while just like it's entirely possible to be vaccine 'hesitant' and question the efficacy of masks without being a crazy anti-vaxxer, it is also possible to be no fan of Trudeau, while dismissing a youthful mistake 20 years ago. It's also possible to be a liberal (note the lack of a capital 'L') and yet not support Trudeau. I'm sorry if you don't understand this.

This thread is also now completely off-topic and should probably be closed.

[photofly]

It’s only a mistake because he got caught. And I see a difference between telex, who is not running for PM vs someone who holds the position as PM, don’t you? Do you hold people in a position of power more accountable?

So only people with perfect records in youth are eligible to election to power?

It’s possible that Telex might want to pursue a career in politics. He may feel that his experience in life (including his youthful indiscretions) means he has something to contribute. Are you barring him?

[telex]

It's a sign of strength to make decisions based on the best evidence available at the time.That improves trust. However, if you're mistrustful and cynical to begin with then you'll interpret it as either evil or incompetent. Which you do.

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

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Yes, exactly. Because you yourself have never made a youthful mistake. But if you did, I'm sure it's justifiable in your mind, and his are not.

You know what also takes strength? Deflection, by bringing up an argument completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, because you must know it makes you look like a crazy zealot.

Your dear leader made the same "youthful" mistake again and again as a grown man. And you still defend it.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

Your dear leader made the same "youthful" mistake again and again as a grown man. And you still defend it.

I am not defending it; I am ignoring it. There is a difference.

Admittedly, I do fault him far more for his later indiscretions than his earlier ones.

[Inverted2]

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

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Yes, exactly. Because you yourself have never made a youthful mistake. But if you did, I'm sure it's justifiable in your mind, and his are not.

You know what also takes strength? Deflection, by bringing up an argument completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand, because you must know it makes you look like a crazy zealot.

Your dear leader made the same "youthful" mistake again and again as a grown man. And you still defend it.

A video of Trudeau pulling heads off kittens could surface and his fanboys would still adore him.

[telex]

Your dear leader made the same "youthful" mistake again and again as a grown man. And you still defend it.

I am not defending it; I am ignoring it. There is a difference.

Admittedly, I do fault him far more for his later indiscretions than his earlier ones.

Either way you enable it. Same result.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

He isn't walking around in blackface any more. I fail to see how I can possibly be enabling something that is not happening.

[shimmydampner]

You know what takes strength? Voting for an incompetent racist that justifies this behaviour to an incompetent voting base.

How is this relevant to the discussion about the AZ vaccine? Do you realize that by putting forth such a poorly constructed, unrelated excuse for a rebuttal no one will want to listen to anything you have to say thereafter? There are plenty of pertinent facts that you could argue to prove your point. You should stick to them. Doing the SJW thing and calling someone a racist to try to change or shut down the discussion is nonsense.

[Inverted2]

Maybe India has the cure after all?

https://news.yahoo.com/indian-doctors-w ... 34750.html

AHMEDABAD, India (Reuters) - Doctors in India are warning against the practice of using cow dung in the belief it will ward off COVID-19, saying there is no scientific evidence for its effectiveness and that it risks spreading other diseases.

The coronavirus pandemic has wrought devastation on India, with 22.66 million cases and 246,116 deaths reported so far. Experts say actual numbers could be five to 10 times higher, and citizens across the country are struggling to find hospital beds, oxygen, or medicines, leaving many to die for lack of treatment.

In the state of Gujarat in western India, some believers have been going to cow shelters once a week to cover their bodies in cow dung and urine in the hope it will boost their immunity against, or help them recover from, the coronavirus.

In Hinduism, the cow is a sacred symbol of life and the earth, and for centuries Hindus have used cow dung to clean their homes and for prayer rituals, believing it has therapeutic and antiseptic properties.

"We see ... even doctors come here. Their belief is that this therapy improves their immunity and they can go and tend to patients with no fear," said Gautam Manilal Borisa, an associate manager at a pharmaceuticals company, who said the practice helped him recover from COVID-19 last year.

[montado]

Pretty sure I’m just about ready to say @#$! it and not wear a mask anywhere. It has been convenient to avoid discussion with people about it, but at this point policy has become completely idiotic.

I can’t stand to listen to Doug ford speak anymore.

What did ford say today... let’s recap

"The situation is slowly trending in the right situation. Make no mistake, we're not out of the woods yet," Ford said, adding that his goal is for Ontario to have "the most normal July and August as possible."

He said he wants to see a two dose summer. (What the @#$! does this mean?). We already know the summer doesn’t have enough vaccines scheduled for most of us to have two doses. Does this mean normal might begin after September? No camping, no golf etc until 2022?

He also said doctors and experts think kids should be back in school, but the teachers union says it’s not safe so for now we can’t go back to school.

He said golf is not inherently dangerous, However he knows when people golf they go and drink after they play and this is just not okay, so no golf can’t open yet.

And of course he doubles down on Trudeau about the airport and borders...my favourite part was where he said since January 3000 people have been through Pearson with covid. I’m thinking that’s it? That’s like 25 people a day at an airport that has hundreds of thousands of people flying though it. How many people have been to a Costco with covid this year?

Do people honestly listen to this crap and believe in anything he is saying? Completely idiotic...

If anyone here wants to get together and drink beer, talk about golf and completely ignore the restrictions I’m game. @#$! this idiot. Rockie? Com’on man you are old enough you probably got two shots now... let’s hang out and talk about those crazy times we argues about masks... anyone?

[montado]

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When Texas dropped mask policy only 14 percent of people were fully vaccinated.

Here in Canada nearly half of Canadians have one dose and golf is not allowed in Ontario for another two weeks. No end in sight to restrictions. Politicians will use one dose as the excuse why summer 2021 will be taken from us. They used as as an experiment and now it’s not working good enough to open while the world open around us.

CDC is dropping masking indoors and outdoors because vaccines are working. Canada is going on it’s own with its own experts here... golf is bad, school is bad... stay inside

Who was it who told me *wait and see, covid cases are going to take off in Texas it just hasn’t been long enough since masks were dropped*

So what vaccine level do Canadians need to end restrictions?

The pandemic is over. Completely idiotic to keep dragging this out.

[Inverted2]

And we are going to have a generation of uneducated and socially awkward children. Most have been at home since March 2020 (Onterrible) and not going back till September at the earliest. All for a virus that isn’t dangerous to children.

[Human Factor]

Going back? Just when flu season is starting? Fat f'n chance our masters will let us out for some sun until spring 2022 if the masses don't start demanding it now.

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

And we are going to have a generation of uneducated and socially awkward children. Most have been at home since March 2020 (Onterrible) and not going back till September at the earliest. All for a virus that isn’t dangerous to children.

It's dangerous to their (grand)parents.

But what do I know?

[montado]

And we are going to have a generation of uneducated and socially awkward children. Most have been at home since March 2020 (Onterrible) and not going back till September at the earliest. All for a virus that isn’t dangerous to children.

It's dangerous to their (grand)parents.

But what do I know?

What do you know? What experts do you trust? The WHO is blasting countries for vaccinating people under 18. Makes sense to me, completely idiotic to be vaccinating 12 year olds when other places in the world can’t get any vaccines at all.

And what other science do you follow? CDC says the vaccine protects you for getting covid and from spreading it...

[RedAndWhiteBaron]

And we are going to have a generation of uneducated and socially awkward children. Most have been at home since March 2020 (Onterrible) and not going back till September at the earliest. All for a virus that isn’t dangerous to children.

It's dangerous to their (grand)parents.

But what do I know?

What do you know? What experts do you trust? The WHO is blasting countries for vaccinating people under 18. Makes sense to me, completely idiotic to be vaccinating 12 year olds when other places in the world can’t get any vaccines at all.

And what other science do you follow? CDC says the vaccine protects you for getting covid and from spreading it...

I know nothing. Neither do you.

[montado]

Has anyone noticed the pro policy, pro lockdown crowd now see to be the ones who sound like quacks?

“I know nothing, neither do you”

Why have you been posting all these opinions if you don’t know anything?

[telex]

And we are going to have a generation of uneducated and socially awkward children. Most have been at home since March 2020 (Onterrible) and not going back till September at the earliest. All for a virus that isn’t dangerous to children.

It's dangerous to their (grand)parents.

But what do I know?

The "professionals" you admire so much did this:

"British Columbia's top health officer has defended a policy in which Covid-19 outbreaks were deliberately not declared in long-term care homes when a "low risk" staff member tested positive to the virus, saying it was to avoid being "overly cautious" and unnecessarily imposing "severe" outbreak restrictions on residents."

It killed 192 people.

What are you doing about it besides locking children down?

[telex]

Has anyone noticed the pro policy, pro lockdown crowd now see to be the ones who sound like quacks?

“I know nothing, neither do you”

Why have you been posting all these opinions if you don’t know anything?

I've noticed.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Reason, logic, facts, and apparently freedom protests are instruments used by far right extremists.