AME strike: the truth

[cloak]

Certainly the inaptitude of the federal government and its ministers bears great responsibility for this massive loss and brand damage, however, why call a surprise strike when there were multiple negotiation dates left on the calendar? Why not wait until after those dates?

[dontcallmeshirley]

Certainly the inaptitude of the federal government and its ministers bears great responsibility for this massive loss and brand damage, however, why call a surprise strike when there were multiple negotiation dates left on the calendar? Why not wait until after those dates?

Multiple negotiation dates on a calendar are not the same thing as both parties showing up and actively trying to solve their differences. The WestJet president stated something on the lines of "you don't give up on the first try because then you're giving too much," when asked why they repeatedly let negotiations get to a point where the labour group files strike notice. The company got too comfortable being difficult and not bargaining in good faith.

[cdnavater]

Certainly the inaptitude of the federal government and its ministers bears great responsibility for this massive loss and brand damage, however, why call a surprise strike when there were multiple negotiation dates left on the calendar? Why not wait until after those dates?

If they don’t strike at the at the time of the notice a new 72 hour notice is required and according to what I read WJ was not really negotiating after they got word of binding arbitration, they assumed they had won the war, they assumed incorrectly.
I have to say, I’m pretty happy that a labour group finally got a win, gets pretty frustrating when the big wigs win and reward themselves with fat bonuses for a job well done!
https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/act ... ge-10.html
“New notice
(3) Unless the parties agree otherwise in writing, where no strike or lockout occurs on the date indicated in a notice given pursuant to subsection (1) or (2), a new notice of at least seventy-two hours must be given by the trade union or the employer if they wish to initiate a strike or lockout.”

[Stu Pidasso]

Considering you can make over 100K / year driving a bus for the TTC, the WJ AME's are hardly overpaid. At AC we have FA's and Rampies making that, out earning well over 1000 (less than 4 years service,) of our Pilots.

justadouchebag's head will explode in two months when the AC Pilots go on Strike.

[justapassenger]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

[79AMEYHZ]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

You are obviously looking to stir the pot.

Air Canada and Aveos was a situation born of bankruptcy protection and the CCAA process. Its unlikely maintenance wages are going to drive WestJet into bankruptcy.

Maintenance labour cost is rising and the budget will have to increase to accommodate. I'm sure the increase in ticket prices to offset the cost will be negligible, and certainly won't increase as much as it has to pad the c suit bonuses in years past.

[planenuts]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

My god your a fucking douche.

Trying to drum up stuff all the time. You know pilots are union members too right?
Slimming down of the maintenance department has been foreseen forever now - and some protections were put in the new contract we are currently voting on. Its been expected for a while and has nothing to do with the contract and everything to do with the IPO. The company is going to trim and slim every department in order to maximize their return. The COO was already over his budget before we came along so hopefully they start with him.

Stop with the fear mongering and trying to link old news with your own agenda.

[DanWEC]

Since admin here don't think we should simply ban what are obvious troll accounts, second best is to just ignore and not reply, just like you would if you see someone on the street babbling away.

[justapassenger]

Ha….but you two took the time to reply

Show me the rules I broke to be kicked off this site and I will leave myself.

You two and many here, just like to hear your daily affirmations and to rub each others……um, backs….to make you feel better about choices you were involved with at WJ and to feel 7 feet taller then everyone else. I’m sharing my views and opinion is a respectable way. There to sides to a union card, no?!?!

And to answer your questions, you can’t outsource pilots as easily as wrench turners. The strike is an example…..did flying 100% stop….nope….its would have if it were pilots…..just saying……..whisper: “aaavvvveeeeooos

[justapassenger]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

My god your a fucking douche.
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Two can play……If anything, this post should get someone banned.

Admins: please review the above for harassment/ personal attack / vulgar language. That is clearly against the rules of this site.

[JBI]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

When AC created and spun off AVEOS the economy and job market were vastly different. The other factor is that at the time, Air Canada (later Aveos) did Air Canada's heavy-checks in house. I'm not an expert on the matter, but my understanding is that WestJet already sends their aircraft to third parties for the heavy checks. Air Canada AMEs still do the daily maintenance and line maintenance.

While I could see WJ (and other Canadian airlines) looking at their various contingency options after the strike, serious outsourcing at this point in time would cost more money than was spent on the new contract.

[braaap Braap]

Heard research has been accelerated.

Same numbskulls doing that research that did the "how to stop your mechanics from striking" research a couple weeks ago? What could possibly go wrong.

[planenuts]

How long before we see more WJ mtc outsourcing. Heard research has been accelerated. Only so much budget for maintenance…..think AC and Aveos.

My god your a fucking douche.
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Two can play……If anything, this post should get someone banned.

Admins: please review the above for harassment/ personal attack / vulgar language. That is clearly against the rules of this site.

If you want to report me - fine. I don't care. I said what I said.....

But for the record - I have not asked for you to be banned anywhere. Don't accuse me of something I have not done.

[justapassenger]

My god your a fucking douche.
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Two can play……If anything, this post should get someone banned.

Admins: please review the above for harassment/ personal attack / vulgar language. That is clearly against the rules of this site.

If you want to report me - fine. I don't care. I said what I said.....

But for the record - I have not asked for you to be banned anywhere. Don't accuse me of something I have not done.

True, good point. I take it back. You can play in my sandbox.

[rookiepilot]

Mildly amusing, I didnt make it....

https://x.com/brittlestar/status/1799130441099911573